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'A neuer writer, to an euer reader. Newes.'
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. Sonnet 26
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Til whatsoEVER STAR tha{T} guid{E}s my m{O}ving,
{P}Oints on me gRatiously WIth fai[R]e aSPect,
And putS apparr[E]ll On my totterEd loving,
[T]o show me WORTHY of their [S]WEET respect,

Then may I d[A]re to boast how I doe love [T]hee,
Til then, not show my head where thou m(A)ist (P)rou(E) me
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. t h a {T}g u i d{E}s m y m{O}v i n g{P} O i
. n t s o n m e g R a t i o u s l y W I t h
. f a i [R]e a S P e c t,A n d p u t S a p p
. a r r [E]l l O n m y t o t t e r E d l o v
. i n g [T]o s h o w m e W O R T H Y o f t h
. e i r [S]W E E T r e s p e c t,T h e n m a
. y I d [A]r e t o b o a s t h o w I d o e l
. o v e [T]h e e,T i l t h e n,n o t s h o w
. m y h e a d w h e r e t h o u m(A)i s t(P)
. r o u (E) m e.
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{POET} -5
[TASTER] -21
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Digges commendatory poem to the 1640 edition of Poems:
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. Vpon Master WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE,
. the Deceased Authour, and his POEMS .
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And though the FOX and subtill Alchimist,
Long intermitted could not quite be mist,
Though these have sham'd all the Ancients, and migh[T] r[A]i[S]e,
[T]h[E]i[R] Authours merit with a crowne of Bayes.
Ye{T} these sometimes, even at a friends desire
Act{E}d, have scarce defrai’d the Seacoale fire
And D{O}ORE-KEEPERS: when let but Falstaffe come,
Hall, {P}oines, the rest you scarce shall have a roome
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. andmigh [T]r[A]i[S]e[T]h[E]i[R] Authoursmeritwithacr
. owneofB a y e s Y e{T}t h e s esometimesevenatafri
. endsdes i r e A c t{E}d h a v escarcedefraidtheSea
. coalefi r e A n d D{O}O R E K EEPERswhenletbutFals
. taffeco m e H a l l{P}o i n e stherestyouscarcesha
. llhavea r o o m e
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{POET} -38
[TASTER] 2
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All is so pester’d : let but Beatrice
And Benedicke be seene, loe in a trice
The Cockpit Galleries, Boxes, all are full
To heare Maluoglio that crosse ga[R]ter’d Gull.
Briefe, th[E]re is nothing in his [W]it fraught Booke,
Wh[O]se sound we would no[T] heare, on whose worth looke
Like old *COYNED GOLD, whose lines in EVERy PAGE* ,
Shall passe *TRUE* curr(A)nt to succeeding age.
But why doe I dead Sheaks(P)eares praise recite,
Some second Shakespear(E) must of Shakespeare write;
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LikeoldCOYNE D G O L D w h ose l i n e s in E V E R y PAGE
ShallpasseTR U E c u r r (A) ntt o s u c c ee d i n g a geBu
twhydoeIdead S h e a k s (P) ear(E)s(P)r(A)is e r e c i teSo
mesecondShak(E)s(P)e(A)r (E) mus t o f S h ak(E)s(P)e(A)re
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For me tis needlesse, since an host of men,
Will pay to clap his praise, to free my Pen.
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[T]HE F[A]mou[S] His[T]ori[E] of T[R]roylus and Cresseid.

Excel(L)ently expressing {T}he beginning of th{E}ir loves,
with the c{O}nceited wooing of {P}andarus Prince of (L)itia

Written by Wi(L)liam Sh(A)kes(P)ear(E) (L)ONDON
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. E x c e l (L) e n t l y e x p r e
. s s i n g {T} h e b e g i n n i n
. g o f t h {E} i r l o v e s,w i t
. h t h e c {O} n c e i t e d w o o
. i n g o f {P} a n d a r u s P r i
. n c e o f (L) i t i a W r i t t e
. n b y W i (L) l i a m S h(A)k e s
. (P)e a r(E) (L) O N D O N
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Written by William Sh(A)kes(P)ear(E) LONDON

Imprinted by G. Eld for R. Bonian and H. Walley,
and are to be sold at the spred Eagle in Paules
Church-yeard, over against the great North-doore. 1609
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A never writer, to an ever reader. Newes.
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http://gutenberg.polytechnic.edu.na/4/9/0/0/49007/49007-0.txt

THE WORKS OF WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE (1865)
EDITED BY WILLIAM CLARK, M.A. AND WILLIAM WRIGHT, M.A.

The earliest edition of 'TROILUS AND CRESSIDA' of which we have any
knowledge was the Quarto which was printed in 1609 with the following
title:

The | Historie of Troylus | and Cresseida. | _As it was acted
by the Kings Maiesties_ | seruants at the Globe. | _Written
by_ William Shakespeare. | LONDON | Imprinted by _G. Eld_ for
_R. Bonian_ and _H. Walley_, and | are to be sold at the spred
Eagle in Paules | Church-yeard, ouer against the | great North
doore. | 1609. |

In the same year was issued another edition, printed from
the same form as the preceding, but with the following title:

[T]HE F[A]mou[S] His[T]ori[E] of T[R]roylus and Cresseid. |
_Excellently expressing the beginning_ | of their loues, with
the conceited wooing | of _Pandarus_ Prince of _Licia_. |
_Written by_ William Shakespeare. | LONDON | Imprinted by _G.
Eld_ for _R. Bonian_ and _H. Walley_, and | are to be sold at
the spred Eagle in Paules | Church-yeard, ouer against the |
great North doore. | 1609. |

Besides the variations in the title-page this edition differs from the
preceding in having a preface, apparently the work of the publisher,
of which the heading is 'A neuer writer, to an euer reader. Newes.'
In this preface the play is called a new one, 'neuer stal'd with the
Stage, neuer clapper-clawd with the palmes of the vulger,' and hence
it has been inferred that the edition with the preface is the earlier
of the two. It appears, however, upon a close examination, that all
the copies were printed from the same form, that the title which we
have recorded first was the original one, and that in some copies
this was cancelled, and the new title and preface inserted on a new
half-sheet and with a new signature. The title-page of the edition with
the preface is printed from the same form as the other title-page, as
is evident from a comparison of the parts in each, from 'Written by
William Shakespeare' to the end, which are absolutely identical. As
the running title, 'The history of Troylus and Cresseida' corresponds
with the first quoted title-page, we believe that the copies with this
title-page were first issued for the theatre, and afterwards those with
the new title-page and preface for general readers. In this case the
expression 'neuer stal'd with the Stage, neuer clapper-clawd with the
palmes of the vulger' must refer to the first appearance of the play in
type, unless we suppose that the publisher was more careful to say what
would recommend his book than to state what was literally true.

Since, in the play itself, these two editions
are identical, we refer to them by one symbol, Q.
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http://tinyurl.com/zemubjl

In the "Ramparts Scene" in Hamlet, the FF pages are misnumbered:
pages: 156 ... 257, 258 &c in the "Tragedies" section.

http://tinyurl.com/zsva4jp
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. Hamlet I,iv (First Folio: first misnumbered page 257)

Enter Ghost.
. Hor. Looke my Lord, it comes.

Hamlet: Angels and Ministers of Grace defend vs:
. Be thou a Spirit of health, or Goblin damn'd,
. Bring with thee ayres from Heauen, or blasts from Hell,
. Be thy euents wicked or charitable,
. Thou com'st in such a questionable shape
. That I will speake to thee. Ile call thee Hamlet,
. King, Father, Royall Dane: Oh, oh, answer me,
. Let me not burs[T] in Ignorance; but tell
. Why thy Canoniz'd bones He[A]rsed in death,
. Haue burst their cerments, why the [S]epulcher
. Wherein we saw thee quietly enurn'd,
. Ha[T]h o{P}'d his ponder{O}us and Marbl{E} iawes,
. To cas{T} th(E|E] v(P) ag(A)ine? What may this meane?
. That thou dead Coa[R]se againe in compleat steele,
. Reuisits thus the glimpses of the Moone,
. Making Night hidious? And we fooles of Nature,
. So horridly to *SHAKE* our disposition,
. With thoughts beyond thee; reaches of our Soules,
. Say, why is this? wherefore? what should we doe?
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. [T]i n I g n orancebu t tellWhythy C anonizdbon e sH e
. [A]r s e d i ndeathHa u eburstthei r cermentswh y th e
. [S]e p u l c herWhere i nwesawthee q uietlyenur n dH a
. [T]h o{P}d h isponder{O}usandMarbl{E}iawesTocas{T}th(E)
. [S]v(P)a g(A)ineWhatm a ythismeane T hatthoudea d Co a
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{POET} 11
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Art Neuendorffer
nordicskiv2
2016-12-21 17:41:18 UTC
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On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 4:42:03 PM UTC-5, Arthur Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter) wrote:

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. t h a {T}g u i d{E}s m y m{O}v i n g{P} O i
. n t s o n m e g R a t i o u s l y W I t h
. f a i [R]e a S P e c t,A n d p u t S a p p
. a r r [E]l l O n m y t o t t e r E d l o v
. i n g [T]o s h o w m e W O R T H Y o f t h
. e i r [S]W E E T r e s p e c t,T h e n m a
. y I d [A]r e t o b o a s t h o w I d o e l
. o v e [T]h e e,T i l t h e n,n o t s h o w
. m y h e a d w h e r e t h o u m(A)i s t(P)
. r o u (E) m e.
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[TASTER] -21
If you're suggesting that Oxford was a poetaster, then I couldn't agree more, Art.

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. andmigh [T]r[A]i[S]e[T]h[E]i[R] Authoursmeritwithacr
. owneofB a y e s Y e{T}t h e s esometimesevenatafri
. endsdes i r e A c t{E}d h a v escarcedefraidtheSea
. coalefi r e A n d D{O}O R E K EEPERswhenletbutFals
. taffeco m e H a l l{P}o i n e stherestyouscarcesha
. llhavea r o o m e
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If you're suggesting that Oxford was a poetaster, then I couldn't agree more, Art.

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. E x c e l (L) e n t l y e x p r e
. s s i n g {T} h e b e g i n n i n
. g o f t h {E} i r l o v e s,w i t
. h t h e c {O} n c e i t e d w o o
. i n g o f {P} a n d a r u s P r i
. n c e o f (L) i t i a W r i t t e
. n b y W i (L) l i a m S h(A)k e s
. (P)e a r(E) (L) O N D O N
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If you're suggesting that Oxford was a poetaster, then I couldn't agree more, Art.

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. F a t h e r RoyallDa n eOhohanswe r meLetmenot b ur s
. [T]i n I g n orancebu t tellWhythy C anonizdbon e sH e
. [A]r s e d i ndeathHa u eburstthei r cermentswh y th e
. [S]e p u l c herWhere i nwesawthee q uietlyenur n dH a
. [T]h o{P}d h isponder{O}usandMarbl{E}iawesTocas{T}th(E)
. [S]v(P)a g(A)ineWhatm a ythismeane T hatthoudea d Co a
. [R]s e a g a ineincom p leatsteele
[TASTER] 40
{POET} 11
If you're suggesting that Oxford was a poetaster, then I couldn't agree more, Art.

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Incidentally, Art, you *still* have not answered the riddle that I posed:

Why are both guests at a Chernobyl hotel and the Earl of Oxford pariahs?

I suppose that I shall have to take pity upon your slowness and REVeal the answer, Art: both are best shunned -- the Chernobyl hotel guests because of their lodgers' rads, and the Earl of Oxford because he rogers lads.
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Art Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter)
Arthur Neuendorffer
2016-12-24 04:21:07 UTC
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Lea wrote;

<<If you're suggesting that Oxford was a poetaster,
then I couldn't agree more, Art.

Incidentally, Art, you *still* have not answered the riddle that I posed:

Why are both guests at a Chernobyl hotel and the Earl of Oxford pariahs?

I suppose that I shall have to take pity upon your slowness and REVeal the answer, Art: both are best shunned -- the Chernobyl hotel guests because of their lodgers' rads, and the Earl of Oxford because he rogers lads.>>
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