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"Yeats was a better writer than he."
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Arthur Neuendorffer
2018-01-24 20:20:59 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._B._Yeats

<<William Butler Yeats (13 June 1865 – 28 January 1939) was an Irish poet and one of the foremost figures of 20th century literature. A pillar of both the Irish and British literary establishments, he helped to found the Abbey Theatre, and in his later years served as an Irish Senator for two terms. Yeats was a driving force behind the Irish Literary Revival along with Lady Gregory, Edward Martyn and others.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Joyce

<<James Augustine Aloysius Joyce (2 February 1882 – 13 January 1941) returned to Dublin again briefly in mid-1912 during his years-long fight with Dublin publisher George Roberts over the publication of Dubliners. His trip was once again fruitless, and on his return he wrote the poem "Gas from a Burner", an invective against Roberts. After this trip, he never again came closer to Dublin than London, despite many pleas from his father and invitations from fellow Irish writer William Butler Yeats. "When Yeats died in 1939, Joyce sent a wreath to the funeral and confessed to a friend that Yeats was a better writer than he.">>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnegans_Wake

<<By 1938 virtually all of Finnegans Wake was in print in the transition serialisation and in the booklets, with the exception of Part IV. Joyce continued to revise all previously published sections until Finnegans Wake's final published form, resulting in the text existing in a number of different forms, to the point that critics can speak of Finnegans Wake being a different entity to Work in Progress. The book was finally published simultaneously by Faber and Faber in London and by Viking Press in New York on 4 May 1939, after seventeen years of composition.>>
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. Finnegans Wake : Publication date : 4 May 1939
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. Howth Castl{E} and Environs.
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Europe M inor[T]owielderfi g hthi(S)peniSO L A(T)ewarnorh[A]dtop {S} awy(E)r s
rocksb(Y)thes t reamOconee[E]xagg e ratedt h e m selsetoL a uren s Cou n t[Y]
sgorgi o swhi l etheywentd o ubli n theirm u m p erallthe t ime

{YEATS} 57
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. i u svi c u sof r ecirc u l a t ionbac k t o Howth
. C a stl{E}a ndE n viron s S i r Tristr a m v ioler
. d a mor e s fro v erthe s h o r tseaha d p{A}ssenc
. o r ere a r riv e dfrom N o r t hArmor i c a onthi
. s [S] ide t h esc r aggyi s{T}h m usofEu r o p eMino
. r [T] owi e l der f ighth i(S)p e niSOLA(T)e w arnor
. h [A] dto p{S}awy(E)rsroc k s b(Y)thestr e a m Ocone
. e [E] xag g e rat e dthem s e l s etoLau r e n sCoun
. t [Y] sgo r g ios w hilet h e y w entdou b l i nthei
. r {m} ump e r all t hetim e
.
[{m}YEATS] -34
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({m}YEATS) -9 :
. Prob. of 2[{m}YEATS] ~ 1 in 7,000,000
. Prob. of 3{YEATS} ~ 1 in 230,000
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Art Neuendorffer
nordicskiv2
2018-01-24 22:04:03 UTC
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._B._Yeats
<<William Butler Yeats (13 June 1865 – 28 January 1939) was an Irish poet
and one of the foremost figures of 20th century literature. A pillar of both
the Irish and British literary establishments, he helped to found the Abbey
Theatre, and in his later years served as an Irish Senator for two terms.
Yeats was a driving force behind the Irish Literary Revival along with Lady
Gregory, Edward Martyn and others.>>
But Art -- Yeats's mother's surname was Pollexfen, which is an anagram of "Oxf. pen?! 'ell!" And Yeats belonged to the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn! MoreoVER, he had an affair with Olivia *Shakespear*!
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Joyce
<<James Augustine Aloysius Joyce (2 February 1882 – 13 January 1941) returned
to Dublin again briefly in mid-1912 during his years-long fight with Dublin
publisher George Roberts over the publication of Dubliners. His trip was once
again fruitless, and on his return he wrote the poem "Gas from a Burner", an
invective against Roberts. After this trip, he never again came closer to
Dublin than London, despite many pleas from his father and invitations from
fellow Irish writer William Butler Yeats. "When Yeats died in 1939, Joyce
sent a wreath to the funeral and confessed to a friend that Yeats was a
better writer than he.">>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnegans_Wake
<<By 1938 virtually all of Finnegans Wake was in print in the transition
serialisation and in the booklets, with the exception of Part IV. Joyce
continued to revise all previously published sections until Finnegans Wake's
final published form, resulting in the text existing in a number of different
forms, to the point that critics can speak of Finnegans Wake being a
different entity to Work in Progress. The book was finally published
simultaneously by Faber and Faber in London and by Viking Press in New York
on 4 May 1939, after seventeen years of composition.>>
[...]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
riverr u npas t EveandAdam s from s werveo f s h oretoben d ofba {Y} bri n g s
usbyac o mmod i usvicusofr e circ u lation b a c ktoHowth C astl {E} and E n v
ironsS i rTri s tramvioler d amor e sfrove r t h eshortse a hadp {A} sse n c o
rerear r ived f romNorthAr m oric a onthis[S]i d ethescra g gyis {T} hmu s o f
Europe M inor[T]owielderfi g hthi(S)peniSO L A(T)ewarnorh[A]dtop {S} awy(E)r s
rocksb(Y)thes t reamOconee[E]xagg e ratedt h e m selsetoL a uren s Cou n t[Y]
sgorgi o swhi l etheywentd o ubli n theirm u m p erallthe t ime
{YEATS} 57
Was there supposed to have been any point to the above effusion of crackpot cryptography, Art? If so, what was it?
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. <= 34 =>
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. r i ver r u npa s tEvea n d A d amsfro m s w erveo
. f s hor e t obe n dofba{Y}b r i ngsusb y a c ommod
. i u svi c u sof r ecirc u l a t ionbac k t o Howth
. C a stl{E}a ndE n viron s S i r Tristr a m v ioler
. d a mor e s fro v erthe s h o r tseaha d p{A}ssenc
. o r ere a r riv e dfrom N o r t hArmor i c a onthi
. s [S] ide t h esc r aggyi s{T}h m usofEu r o p eMino
. r [T] owi e l der f ighth i(S)p e niSOLA(T)e w arnor
. h [A] dto p{S}awy(E)rsroc k s b(Y)thestr e a m Ocone
. e [E] xag g e rat e dthem s e l s etoLau r e n sCoun
. t [Y] sgo r g ios w hilet h e y w entdou b l i nthei
. r {m} ump e r all t hetim e
.
[{m}YEATS] -34
Was there supposed to have been any point to the above effusion of crackpot cryptography, Art? If so, what was it? Incidentally, Art, "MYEATS [sic]" is moronic nonsense -- unless perhaps it refers to your dinner.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
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Was there supposed to have been any point to the above effusion of crackpot cryptography, Art? If so, what was it? Incidentally, Art, "MYEATS [sic]" is moronic nonsense -- unless perhaps it refers to your dinner.

Are you aware that this is a Shakespeare newsgroup, Art? And that your post had nothing whateVER to do with the newsgroup's topic? How about posting to the humanities.git.arthur.* hierarchy instead -- say, to humanities.git.arthur's.crackpot.cryptography?

[Crackpot "computations" snipped]
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Art Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter)
Arthur Neuendorffer
2018-01-24 22:53:24 UTC
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Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._B._Yeats
<<William Butler Yeats (13 June 1865 – 28 January 1939) was an Irish poet
and one of the foremost figures of 20th century literature. A pillar of both
the Irish and British literary establishments, he helped to found the Abbey
Theatre, and in his later years served as an Irish Senator for two terms.
Yeats was a driving force behind the Irish Literary Revival along with
Lady Gregory, Edward Martyn and others.>>
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Lea wrote:

<<But Art -- Yeats belonged to the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn!>>

Are you suggesting that Will was Farr Gonne?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn

<<Many celebrities belonged to the Golden Dawn, such as the actress Florence
Farr, the Irish revolutionary Maud Gonne, the Irish poet William Butler Yeats,>>
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Lea wrote: <<MoreoVER, he had an affair with Olivia *Shakespear*!>>

In for a Penny, in for a Pound:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_Shakespear

<<Olivia's daughter Dorothy Shakespear married Ezra Pound in 1914, despite the less than enthusiastic blessing of her parents. After their marriage, Pound would use funds received from Olivia to support T. S. Eliot and James Joyce. When Dorothy gave birth to a son, Omar Pound, in France in 1926, Olivia assumed guardianship of the boy. He lived with Olivia until her death twelve years later, in 1938.>>
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Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Joyce
<<James Augustine Aloysius Joyce (2 February 1882 – 13 January 1941) returned
to Dublin again briefly in mid-1912 during his years-long fight with Dublin
publisher George Roberts over the publication of Dubliners. His trip was once
again fruitless, and on his return he wrote the poem "Gas from a Burner", an
invective against Roberts. After this trip, he never again came closer to
Dublin than London, despite many pleas from his father and invitations from
fellow Irish writer William Butler Yeats. "When Yeats died in 1939, Joyce
sent a wreath to the funeral and confessed to a friend that Yeats was a
better writer than he.">>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnegans_Wake
<<By 1938 virtually all of Finnegans Wake was in print in the transition
serialisation and in the booklets, with the exception of Part IV. Joyce
continued to revise all previously published sections until Finnegans Wake's
final published form, resulting in the text existing in a number of different
forms, to the point that critics can speak of Finnegans Wake being a
different entity to Work in Progress. The book was finally published
simultaneously by Faber and Faber in London and by Viking Press in New York
on 4 May 1939, after seventeen years of composition.>>
riverr u npas t EveandAdam s from s werveo f s h oretoben d ofba {Y} bri n g s
usbyac o mmod i usvicusofr e circ u lation b a c ktoHowth C astl {E} and E n v
ironsS i rTri s tramvioler d amor e sfrove r t h eshortse a hadp {A} sse n c o
rerear r ived f romNorthAr m oric a onthis[S]i d ethescra g gyis {T} hmu s o f
Europe M inor[T]owielderfi g hthi(S)peniSO L A(T)ewarnorh[A]dtop {S} awy(E)r s
rocksb(Y)thes t reamOconee[E]xagg e ratedt h e m selsetoL a uren s Cou n t[Y]
sgorgi o swhi l etheywentd o ubli n theirm u m p erallthe t ime
{YEATS} 57
Lea wrote:

<<Was there supposed to have been any point to the above effusion
of crackpot cryptography, Art? If so, what was it?>>

Yeats just died and Joyce wrote a cipher dedication.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. <= 34 =>
.
. r i ver r u npa s tEvea n d A d amsfro m s w erveo
. f s hor e t obe n dofba{Y}b r i ngsusb y a c ommod
. i u svi c u sof r ecirc u l a t ionbac k t o Howth
. C a stl{E}a ndE n viron s S i r Tristr a m v ioler
. d a mor e s fro v erthe s h o r tseaha d p{A}ssenc
. o r ere a r riv e dfrom N o r t hArmor i c a onthi
. s [S] ide t h esc r aggyi s{T}h m usofEu r o p eMino
. r [T] owi e l der f ighth i(S)p e niSOLA(T)e w arnor
. h [A] dto p{S}awy(E)rsroc k s b(Y)thestr e a m Ocone
. e [E] xag g e rat e dthem s e l s etoLau r e n sCoun
. t [Y] sgo r g ios w hilet h e y w entdou b l i nthei
. r {m} ump e r all t hetim e
.
[{m}YEATS] -34
Lea wrote:

<<Incidentally, Art, "MYEATS [sic]" is moronic nonsense -
- unless perhaps it refers to your dinner.>>

Crepes of Wrath! https://food52.com/collections/173853-my-eats
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
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. [T] o w i e l d e r
. f i g h t h i (S) p
. e n i S O L A (T) e
. w a r n o r h [A] d
. t o p {S} a w y (E) r
. s r o c k s b (Y) t
. h e s t r e a {m} O
. c o n e
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Lea wrote:

<<Are you aware that this is a Shakespeare newsgroup, Art? And that your post had nothing whateVER to do with the newsgroup's topic? How about posting to the humanities.git.arthur.* hierarchy instead -- say, to humanities.git.arthur's.crackpot.cryptography?>>

They don't have an active Joyce newsgroup anymore so one does what one can.
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Art Neuendorffer

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