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Alexander Waugh found a cipher that uses the quotation "Courte deare verse"
Art Neuendorfer noticed this some years before, can anyone remember when?
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So far as I know Volker Multhopp of Essex, Maryland

https://www.mylife.com/volker-multhopp/volkermulthopp

was the first person to emphasis this thing back in the early days of HLAS:
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On Wed, 12 May 1999, Terry Ross <***@bcpl.net> wrote HLAS:

<<What we have is a marginal note to a passage of praise
for *Spenser & Daniel* . Here's the main passage
(taken from *The Shakespeare Allusion Book* 1:23):

[Polimanteia 1595]

Let divine Bartasse, eternally praise-worthie for his weeks worke, say
the best thinges were made first: Let other countries (sweet Cambridge)
envie, (yet admire) my Virgil, thy petrarch, divine Spenser. And
unlesse I erre, (a thing easie in such simplicitie) deluded by dearly
beloved Delia, and fortunatelie fortunate Cleopatra; Oxford thou maist
extoll thy courte-deare-verse happie Daniell, whose sweete refined muse,
in contracted shape, were sufficient amongst men, to gaine pardon of
the sinne to Rosemond, pittie to distressed Cleopatra, and
everliving praise to her loving Delia:

This passage has baffled some other anti-Stratfordians. Some, including
Volker (who has perhaps never seen the words in context), imagine that
"Oxford thou maist extoll thy courte-deare-verse" is meant as praise of
Edward de Vere, but the passage clearly shows that Samuel Daniel (a man
of whom his alma mater, Oxford, could be justly proud, just as Cambridge
could brag on Spenser) and not Vere (who is not even mentioned) is
being praised here. [Slightly off-topic: note that Covell's use
of "everliving" contains no suggestion that Delia is dead.]

The marginal note accompanying this passage reads,

. All praiseworthy. Lucrecia Sweet Shakspeare.
. Eloquent Gaveston. Wanton Adonis. Watsons heyre.
. So well graced Anthonie deserveth immortall
. praise from the hand of that divine Lady who like
. Corrina contending with Pindarus was oft victorious.
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My own interest has been rather in ELS ciphers rather than "codes."
.............................................................
The marginal note accompanying this passage reads,

. Al[L] prais[E]worth[Y]. Lucre[C]ia Swe[E]t Shak[S]peare.
. Eloquent Gaveston. Wanton Adonis. Watsons heyre.
. So well graced Anthonie deserveth immortall
. praise from the hand of that divine Lady who like
. Corrina contending with Pindarus was oft victorious.

[LEYCES] 6 : Prob. in marginal note ~ 1 in 58,000
................................................
[LEYCES] shortest pos. skip in KJV: 24

1 Peter 2:20 : For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye sha[L]l take it patiently? but if, wh[E]n ye do well, and suffer for it, [Y]e take it patiently, this is a[C]ceptable with God. For even h[E]reunto were ye called: becau[S]e Christ also suffered for us,
..........................................................
The Polimanteia was dedicated to the [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter's
step-son & protege: Robert Devereux, Earl of Essex (1566-1601)
.
Spenser & Daniel both wrote dedications to Mary *SIDNEY* wife of
[LEYCES]ter's best friend: Henry Herbert Earl of Pembroke (1534-1601)

Robert Dudley, 1st [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter,
(24 June 1532 - 4 Sept. 1588) in 1565 knighted
Sir Thomas Lucy (24 April 1532 - 7 July 1600)

[LEYCES]ter is said to have disuaded Lucy from
prosecuting Shakspere for his deer poaching.
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. http://tinyurl.com/p3la9rz
. P. Ovidius Naso, Metamorphoses, (Golding)
.
. Too the Right Honourable and his singular good Lorde
. [R]obert [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter, Baron of Denbygyh,
. Knyght of the moste noble order of the Garter etc.,
. Arthur Goldyng gent, wisheth continuance of health,
. with prosperous estate and fcelicitie.
...........................................................
. Book 3 : Actaeon & Diana = [R.E.LEYCES.] & Elizabeth?
.
As soone a{S} with h{I}r scar{L}et whe{E}les ne{X}t morning bringeth light,
We will about our worke againe. But now Hiperion bright
Is in the middes of Heaven, and sear[E]s the fiel[D]es with fi[R]ie rayes.
T[A]ke up your toyles, and cease your worke, and let us go our wayes.
.
{SILEX-} 6
[EDRA] 9
.
Prob. of {SILEX-}[EDRA] in Metamorphoses ~ 1 in 1,250,000

http://www.nps.gov/features/yell/tours/fountainpaint/silexspring.htm
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap140827.html
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He wist not whither (having staid his pastime till the morrow)
Comes Cadmus Nephew to this thicke: and entring in with sorrow
(Such was his cursed cruell fate) saw Phebe where she washt.
The Damsels at the sight of man quite out of countnance dasht,
(Bicause they EVERichone were BARE and naked to the quicke)
Did beate their handes against their breasts, and cast out such a shricke,
That all the wood did ring thereof: and clinging to their dame
Did all they could to hide both hir and eke them[S]elves fro shame.
But Ph[E]be was of personage so [C]omly and so tall,
That b[Y] the middle of hir neck[E] she overpeerd them al[L].
Such colour as appear[E]s in Heaven by Phebus b[R]oken rayes
Directly shining on the Cloudes, or such as is alwayes
The colour of the Morning Cloudes before the Sunne doth show,
Such sanguine colour in the face of Phoebe gan to glowe
There standing naked in his sight. Who though she had hir gard
Of Nymphes about hir: yet she turnde hir bodie from him ward.
.............................................
___ <= 19 =>
.
. D i d a l l t h e y c o u l d t o h i
. d e b o t h h i r a n d e k e t h e m
. [S] e l v e s f r o s h a m e B u t P h
. [E] b e w a s o f p e r s o n a g e s o
. [C] o m l y a n d s o t a l l,T h a t b
. [Y] t h e m i d d l e o f h i r n e c k
. [E] s h e o v e r p e e r d t h e m a l
. [L].S u c h c o l o u r a s a p p e a r
. [E] s i n H e a v e n b y P h e b u s b
. [R] o k e n r a y e s
.
[R.E.LEYCES.] -19 : Prob. in Metamorphoses ~ 1 in 275
(Dedicated to [R]obert [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter!)
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[R.E.LEYCES.] shortest skip in KJV: 1491
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http://www.luminarium.org/renascence-editions/lodge/lodge1.html
.
. THOMAS LODGE: Rosalynde. Euphues golden Legacie,
. found after his death in his Cell at {SILEX}[EDRA],
.
Did not Rosalinde content her Rosader? The
Forrest[E]r at this smiling, {S}hooke his head,
an[D] folding h{I}s armes made this merrie [R]ep{L}y.
*TRUTH gentle Swaine*, Rosad{E}r h[A]th his Rosalynde,
but as I{X}ion had Juno, who thinking to possesse a
goddesse, only imbraced a clowd : in these imaginary
fruitions of fancie, I resemble the birds that
fed them selves with *ZEUXIS painted GRAPES* ;
...........................................................
. <= 28 =>
.
. T h e F o r r e s t[E]r a t t h i s s m i l i n g{S}h
. o o k e h i s h e a d,a n[D]f o l d i n g h{I}s a r m
. e s m a d e t h i s m e r r i e[R]e p{L}y*T R U T H g
. e n t l e S w a i n e*R o s a d{E}r h[A]t h h i s R o
. s a l y n d e,b u t a s I{X}i o n h a d J u[N]o,w h o
. t h i n k i n g t o p o s s e s s e a g o d d e s[S]e,
. o n l y i m b r a c e d a c l o w d
.
{SILEX-} 26
[EDRANS] 30 :
...........................................................
. Rosalynde: SALADYNES SONNET.
.
. If it be *TRUE* that heavens eternall course
. With [R]est[L]ess[E] swa[Y] and [C]eas[E]les[S] turning glides,
. If aire inconstant be, and swelling sourse
. Turne and returns with many fluent tides,
. If earth in winter summers pride *eSTRANGE* ,
. And Nature seemeth onely faire in change.
...................................................
[R.LEYCES] 4 : Prob. in Sonnet ~ 1 in 200,000
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[R.LEYCES] shortest pos. skip in KJV: 392
...................................................
. If it be *TRUE* that our immortall spright,
. Derivde from heavenly pure, in wandring still
. In noveltie and *STRANGEnesse* doth delight,
. And by discoVEREnt power discerneth ill,
. And if the body for to worke his best
. Doth with the seasons change his place of rest.
.
. Whence *COMES* it that (inforst by furious Skies)
. I change both place and soyle, but not my hart ?
. Yet salve not in this change my maladies ?
. Whence growes it that each object workes my smart ?
. Alas I see my faith procures my misse,
. And change in love against my nature is.
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(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston

But I am vext, when swarmes of Iulians
Are still manur'd by lewd Precisians.
Who scorning Church rites, take the simbole vp
As s[L]ou[E]nl[Y], as [C]ar[E]le[S]se Courtiers slup
.............................................
. A s s
. [L] o u
. [E] n l
. [Y],a s
. [C] a r
. [E] l e
. [S] s e
.
[LEYCES] 3 : Prob. at end ~ 1 in 1990
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Art Neuendorffer
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Alexander Waugh found a cipher that uses the quotation "Courte deare verse"
Art Neuendorfer noticed this some years before, can anyone remember when?
So far as I know Volker Multhopp of Essex, Maryland
https://www.mylife.com/volker-multhopp/volkermulthopp
was the first person
I applaud your fairness, Art -- you generally do give blame where blame is due.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
to emphasis [sic] this thing
Is English your native tongue, Art?
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
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<<What we have is a marginal note to a passage of praise
for *Spenser & Daniel* . Here's the main passage
[Polimanteia 1595]
Let divine Bartasse,
But Art -- "Bartasse" is an anagram of "Art be ass"!
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
eternally praise-worthie for his weeks worke, say
the best thinges were made first: Let other countries (sweet Cambridge)
envie, (yet admire) my Virgil, thy petrarch, divine Spenser. And
unlesse I erre, (a thing easie in such simplicitie) deluded by dearly
beloved Delia, and fortunatelie fortunate Cleopatra; Oxford thou maist
extoll thy courte-deare-verse happie Daniell, whose sweete refined muse,
in contracted shape, were sufficient amongst men, to gaine pardon of
the sinne to Rosemond, pittie to distressed Cleopatra, and
This passage has baffled some other anti-Stratfordians. Some, including
Volker (who has perhaps never seen the words in context), imagine that
"Oxford thou maist extoll thy courte-deare-verse" is meant as praise of
Edward de Vere, but the passage clearly shows that Samuel Daniel (a man
of whom his alma mater, Oxford, could be justly proud, just as Cambridge
could brag on Spenser) and not Vere (who is not even mentioned)
...not surprisingly -- the less said about much of Oxford's VERse, the better...
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
is
being praised here. [Slightly off-topic: note that Covell's use
of "everliving" contains no suggestion that Delia is dead.]
The marginal note accompanying this passage reads,
. All praiseworthy. Lucrecia Sweet Shakspeare.
. Eloquent Gaveston. Wanton Adonis. Watsons heyre.
. So well graced Anthonie deserveth immortall
. praise from the hand of that divine Lady who like
. Corrina contending with Pindarus was oft victorious.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
My own interest has been rather in ELS ciphers rather than "codes."
But Art -- most of your "ELS ciphers" are *not even equidistant letter sequences*! Many are not even close.

[Crackpot cryptography snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
[LEYCES]ter is said to have disuaded [sic]
Is English your native tongue, Art?
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
Lucy from
prosecuting Shakspere for his deer poaching.
While you're looking for codes, Art, you should not oVERlook the striking coincidence between Shakespeare's reported offense against Lucy and Oxford's reported offense against Cogno. It's the best evidence known to me that there could be a link between Shakespeare and Oxford.

[Crackpot cryptography snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
___ <= 19 =>
.
. D i d a l l t h e y c o u l d t o h i
. d e b o t h h i r a n d e k e t h e m
. [S] e l v e s f r o s h a m e B u t P h
. [E] b e w a s o f p e r s o n a g e s o
. [C] o m l y a n d s o t a l l,T h a t b
. [Y] t h e m i d d l e o f h i r n e c k
. [E] s h e o v e r p e e r d t h e m a l
. [L].S u c h c o l o u r a s a p p e a r
. [E] s i n H e a v e n b y P h e b u s b
. [R] o k e n r a y e s
.
[R.E.LEYCES.] -19 : Prob. in Metamorphoses ~ 1 in 275
(Dedicated to [R]obert [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter!)
It doesn't *say* "Robert, Earl of Leicester", Art; it says "RELEYCES [sic]", which is moronic nonsense.

[Crackpot cryptography snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
But Art -- "Iohn Martson's Satire" is an anagram of "Art's insane shit room", a trenchant characterization of h.l.a.s. in its senescence.

[Crackpot cryptography snipped]
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Art Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter)
Arthur Neuendorffer
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Alexander Waugh found a cipher that uses the quotation "Courte deare verse"
Art Neuendorfer noticed this some years before, can anyone remember when?
----------------------------------------------------------
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
So far as I know Volker Multhopp of Essex, Maryland
https://www.mylife.com/volker-multhopp/volkermulthopp
was the first person to emphasize this thing
Lea wrote:

<<I applaud your fairness, Art --
you generally do give blame where blame is due.>>


Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
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<<What we have is a marginal note to a passage of praise
for *Spenser & Daniel* . Here's the main passage
[Polimanteia 1595]
Let divine Bartasse,
Lea wrote: <<But Art -- "Bartasse" is an anagram of "Art be ass"!>>

Art sabes:
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. DIVINE BARTASSE
............................
. BASTARDISE VINE
. BARD'S NAIVETIES
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
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... eternally praise-worthie for his weeks worke, say the best
thinges were made first: Let other countries (sweet Cambridge)
*ENVIE*, (yet admire) my Virgil, thy petrarch, divine Spenser. And
unlesse I erre, (a thing easie in such simplicitie) deluded by dearly
beloved *DELIA*, and fortunatelie fortunate Cleopatra; Oxford thou maist
extoll thy courte-deare-verse happie Daniell, whose sweete refined muse,
in contracted shape, were sufficient amongst men, to gaine pardon of
the sinne to Rosemond, pittie to distressed Cleopatra, and
This passage has baffled some other anti-Stratfordians. Some, including
Volker (who has perhaps never seen the words in context), imagine that
"Oxford thou maist extoll thy courte-deare-verse" is meant as praise of
Edward de Vere, but the passage clearly shows that Samuel Daniel (a man
of whom his alma mater, Oxford, could be justly proud, just as Cambridge
could brag on Spenser) and not Vere (who is not even mentioned)
Lea wrote:

<< the less said about much of Oxford's VERse, the better...>>
-------------------------------------------------
. DIVINE BARTASSE
...............................
. VERSE AND TIBIAS
-------------------------------------------------
. TOT ___ HEONL ____ IEBE
. GET ___ TEROF ____ THES
. EIN _____- SVING [S] _ONN
- -ET_ [S] [M] RWHA _- [L] _LHA
_ -P- [P-I]_[N E] SS__- {E[A] _NDT
_ -H- [A T] [E T] ER___ {N[I] _TIE
_ {P} [R O] [M I] ___ {S E|D[B] _YOV
_. {R} [E V] [E R] -L___ {I|V[I] _NGP
_ {O} ET___ WISH {E|T] _HTH
. EWE ___ LLWI{S|H.] _ING
. ADV ___ ENTV{R|E.] _RIN
. SET ____ TING{F|O.] _RTH
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{ENDVES} [TIBIALS] = Dons the Order of the Garter
_________[H]enry [E]arl of [O]xford
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Lea wrote:

<<In view of your prior obsession with "Don Quixote" and donning
thigh armor, I'm surprised that you haven't made the obvious
connection, Art. *ENDVES TIBIALS* means "dons shin armor".
I'm sure you can make something of that.>> - Dave Webb
---------------------------------------------------------
. Philip Sidney (1554-86) had gallantly refused to
. 'Don' thigh armour (cuisses or 'Quixote') when an
. elder knight didn't have any(; did Philip, in fact,
. loan his cuisses to that elderly knight). Sidney was
. shot in the thigh on Sept. 22, 1586 & died on October 17.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
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is being praised here. [Slightly off-topic: note that Covell's
use of "everliving" contains no suggestion that Delia is dead.]
The marginal note accompanying this passage reads,
. All praiseworthy. Lucrecia Sweet Shakspeare.
. Eloquent Gaveston. Wanton Adonis. Watsons heyre.
. So well graced Anthonie deserveth immortall
. praise from the hand of that divine Lady who like
. Corrina contending with Pindarus was oft victorious.
---------------------------------------------------------------
My own interest has been rather in ELS ciphers rather than "codes."
Lea wrote:

<<most of your "ELS ciphers" are *not even equidistant letter sequences*!
Many are not even close.>>

They are close enough for government work.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
[LEYCES]ter is said to have dissuaded Lucy from
prosecuting Shakspere for his deer poaching.
Lea wrote:

<<While you're looking for codes, Art, you should not oVERlook the striking coincidence between Shakespeare's reported offense against Lucy and Oxford's reported offense against Cogno. It's the best evidence known to me that there could be a link between Shakespeare and Oxford.>>

The [LEYCE{S}ED] about much of Oxford's molestations, the better.

Cogno had his day in court and probably would have died if he had stayed in Italy.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
___ <= 19 =>
.
. D i d a l l t h e y c o u l d t o h i
. d e b o t h h i r a n d e k e t h e m
. [S] e l v e s f r o s h a m e B u t P h
. [E] b e w a s o f p e r s o n a g e s o
. [C] o m l y a n d s o t a l l,T h a t b
. [Y] t h e m i d d l e o f h i r n e c k
. [E] s h e o v e r p e e r d t h e m a l
. [L].S u c h c o l o u r a s a p p e a r
. [E] s i n H e a v e n b y P h e b u s b
. [R] o k e n r a y e s
.
[R.E.LEYCES.] -19 : Prob. in Metamorphoses ~ 1 in 275
(Dedicated to [R]obert [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter!)
Lea wrote:

<<It doesn't *say* "Robert, Earl of Leicester", Art; it says "RELEYCES [sic]",>>

Close enough for government work.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
Lea wrote:

<<But Art -- "Iohn Martson's [SIC] Satire" is an anagram of
"Art's insane shit room", a trenchant characterization of
h.l.a.s. in its senescence.>>
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'Nemo senex metuit Jovem,'
.............................................
. THE SHEPHEARDES CALENDER (1579)

TO THE NOBLE AND VERTUOUS GENTLEMAN MOST WORTHY
OF ALL TITLES BOTH OF LEARNING AND CHEVALRIE
MAISTER {P}HILIP {SIDNEY}

*February* EMBLEME.

Although it please Erasmus, a great clerke and good old father,
more fatherly and favourablye to construe it, in his Adages, for
his own behoofe, that by the proverbe, 'Nemo senex metuit Jovem,'
is not meant, that old [M]en have no feare of God at [A]l, but
that they be furre f[R]om superstition and ido[L]atrous regard
of false g[O]ds, as is Jupiter. But his greate learning notwith
standing, it is to plaine to be gainsayd, that olde men are
muche more enclined to such fond fooleries, then younger heades.
.
[MARLO] 27 (baptised 26 *February* 1564)
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. IOHN MARSTON'S SATIRE : *DROESHOUT*
........................................
. A MONSTER'S HISTORIAN : *HERODOTUS*
-------------------------------------------------
____ (1939) Encyclopedia Britannica on "Drama"
.
____ *HERODOTUS* had a lot to say
____ about TRAGEDY (i.e., a goat-song) being a PATHOS
_____ (i.e., the violent death of Dionysus/Osiris
_______ by *SPARAGMOS* or dismemberment):
.
<<...we have the express testimony of *HERODOTUS* that the ritual
_worship of Dionysus (the god of Drama) was the same as the ritual
___ worship of Osiris such that it involved a "sparagmos"
_ (dismemberment), mourning, search, discovery & resurrection.>>
.
____ HowEVER, *HERODOTUS* avoided directly mentioning
____ Dionysus OR Osiris in this regard:
.
____ "When the Egyptians lament the god
___ whom I may not name in this connection"
_ "They lament but whom they lament I must not say" -- *HERODOTUS*
.
__ For in the manner of ancient religion, it was always necessary
____ that Dionysus or Osiris be represented by some surrogate.
.......................................................
In fact, ALL TRAGIC HEROS are simply surrogates of Dionysus/Osiris:
.
<<We find a frequent sparagmos of beings who have committed some sin:
.
____ Actaeon by hounds
____ Dirce by a bull
____ Orpheus by Maenads
____ Lycurgus by horses
____ Pentheus by Maenads
____ HYPPOLYTUS by horses
.
This use of a surrogate was made easier by the fact that both at
Eleusis & in the Osiris rite the myth was conveyed by *tableaux*
____ (i.e., 'things shown') rather than by words.
.
___ Thus the death of Pentheus, wearing Dionysiac dress,
_ would be shown by exactly the same tableau as that of Dionysus.
.
____ THE TRUTH COULD BE SHOWN TO THE WISE
_ AND AT THE SAME TIME *VEILED FROM THE UNKNOWING*
.
____ Such facts help to explain the charge of
_ "profaning the mysteries" brought against Aeschylus.>>
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(1603) Francis DAVISON’s
Anagrammata in Nomina Illustrissimorum Heroum
.............................................
http://www.philological.bham.ac.uk/anagrams/text.html
.
____ *EDOUDARUS V(e)IERUS*
_____ per anagramma
____ *AURE SURDUS VIDEO*
----------------------------------------------------
Michell's book _Who Wrote Shakespeare_:
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__ *VERO NIL VERIU(s)*
__ *OUR EVER-LIVIN(g)*
.....................................
__ *THOMA(s)SNOUT*
__ *SOUTHAM(p)TON*
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. *GROS(s)ER NAME* : *ENVIOU(s) SLIVER*
. *ROGE(r) MANERS* : *NIL VE(r)O VERIUS*
..................................................
. Hamlet (Quarto 2, 1604) Act 4, Scene 7
.
Queen: There is a Willow growes ascaunt the Brooke
. That showes his horry leaves in the glassy streame,
. Therewith FANTASTIQUE gaRLANDs did she make
. Of Crowflowers, Nettles, Daises, and long *PURPLES*
. That liberall Shepheards giue *A GROS(s)ER NAM{E}* ,
. But our cull-c{O}ld maydes doe [D]ead mens fing[E]rs call them.
. There on the pen[D]ant boughes h[E]r *CRONET WEED{E}S*
. Clamb(RING) t{O} hang, an *ENVIO[U](s) SLIVER* brok[E],
. When downe he[R] weedy trophi[E]s and her selfe
................................................
. <= 12 =>
.
. *A G R O S (s) E R N A M {E}*
. B u t o u r c u l l -c {O}
. l d m a y d e s d o e [D]
. e a d m e n s f i n g [E]
. r s c a l l t h e m. T h
. e r e o n t h e p e n [D]
. a n t b o u g h e s h [E]
. r *C R O N E T W E E D {E}
. S* C l a m b (R I N G) t {O}
. h a n g, a n *E N V I O [U]
. (s) S L I V E R* b r o k [E]
. W h e n d o w n e h e [R]
. w e e d y t r o p h i [E]
. s a n d h e r s e l f e
.
[DE{E.O.}UERE] 12
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David Roper Stratford Monument array:
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TE RRAT E (G) I TPOP U L U S M Æ R E T O{L Y M P U S H A B E}T
..................................................................
ST AYPA S (S) E NGER W H Y G O E S T T H O U B Y S O F A S T R
EA DIFT (H)(O) U CANS T W H O M[E N V I O U S]D E A T H H A T H
PL ASTW (I)(T) H INTH I S {M O N[U]M E N T|S H A K S P E A R E}W
IT HWHO (M)(E) Q UICK(N)a {T U R[E|D]I D E|W H O S E N A M E D}O
<TH DECK> Y (S) T OMBE F A R M O[R|E]t H E N C O S T{S I E H}A L
LY THEH A (T) H WRIT T L E[A.V|E|S L I V]I N G A R T B U T P A
GE TOSE R V E HISW I T T
...............................................................
"[ENVIOUS SLIV/ER] broke"
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JULY 6, 1604 - Edward de Vere buried
. on St. GodeliEVE's Day
................................................
July 6, 1070 - St. GodeliEVE murdered by
. *DROWNING IN A POND* after being strangled into
. unconciousness by her mother-in-law's servants.
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1623 Folio (Act 4, Scene 7)
Claudius reads Hamlet's letter to Laertes:

'High and mighty, You shall know I am set naked on
your kingdom. To-morrow shall I beg leave to see
your kingly eyes: when I shall, first asking your
pardon thereunto, recount the occasion of my sudden
*AND MORE STRANGE RE(t)URN*.' 'HAMLET.'
......................................................
____ *AND MORE STRANGE RE(t)URN*
____ *ROGER MANNERS, E. RUT(l)AND*
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Art Neuendorffer
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"Courte deare verse"
is an anagram of

AUSTERE RECOVERED
[DOES DOSE ODES] CREATURE [EVER VEER]
DECREASE TRUE [OVER ROVE]
DECREASE OVERTURE

as well as

ORDER ACUTE SEVERE
SO CREATURE VEERED

which all goes to prove
Arthur Neuendorffer
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"Courte deare verse"
is an anagram of
AUSTERE RECOVERED
[DOES DOSE ODES] CREATURE [EVER VEER]
DECREASE TRUE [OVER ROVE]
DECREASE OVERTURE
as well as
ORDER ACUTE SEVERE
SO CREATURE VEERED
which all goes to prove...
That one should avoid anagrams that aren't at least 50% proper names.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
My own interest has been rather in ELS ciphers:
.......................................................
The marginal note accompanying this passage reads,

. Al[L] prais[E]worth[Y]. Lucre[C]ia Swe[E]t Shak[S]peare.
. Eloquent Gaveston. Wanton Adonis. Watsons heyre.
. So well graced Anthonie deserveth immortall
. praise from the hand of that divine Lady who like
. Corrina contending with Pindarus was oft victorious.
.............................
. <= 6 =>
.
. A l [L] p r a
. i s [E] w o r
. t h [Y].L u c
. r e [C] i a S
. w e [E] t S h
. a k [S] p e a
. r e.

[LEYCES] 6 : Prob. in marginal note ~ 1 in 58,000
................................................
[LEYCES] shortest pos. skip in KJV: 24

1 Peter 2:20 : For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye sha[L]l take it patiently? but if, wh[E]n ye do well, and suffer for it, [Y]e take it patiently, this is a[C]ceptable with God. For even h[E]reunto were ye called: becau[S]e Christ also suffered for us,
..........................................................
The Polimanteia was dedicated to the [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter's
step-son & protege: Robert Devereux, Earl of Essex (1566-1601)
.
Spenser & Daniel both wrote dedications to Mary *SIDNEY* wife of
[LEYCES]ter's best friend: Henry Herbert Earl of Pembroke (1534-1601)

Robert Dudley, 1st [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter,
(24 June 1532 - 4 Sept. 1588) in 1565 knighted
Sir Thomas Lucy (24 April 1532 - 7 July 1600)

[LEYCES]ter is said to have disuaded Lucy from
prosecuting Shakspere for his deer poaching.
-----------------------------------------------------------
. http://tinyurl.com/p3la9rz
. P. Ovidius Naso, Metamorphoses, (Golding)
.
. Too the Right Honourable and his singular good Lorde
. [R]obert [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter, Baron of Denbygyh,
. Knyght of the moste noble order of the Garter etc.,
. Arthur Goldyng gent, wisheth continuance of health,
. with prosperous estate and fcelicitie.
...........................................................
. Book 3 : Actaeon & Diana = [R.E.LEYCES.] & Elizabeth?
.
As soone a{S} with h{I}r scar{L}et whe{E}les ne{X}t morning bringeth light,
We will about our worke againe. But now Hiperion bright
Is in the middes of Heaven, and sear[E]s the fiel[D]es with fi[R]ie rayes.
T[A]ke up your toyles, and cease your worke, and let us go our wayes.
.
{SILEX-} 6
[EDRA] 9
.
Prob. of {SILEX-}[EDRA] in Metamorphoses ~ 1 in 1,250,000

http://www.nps.gov/features/yell/tours/fountainpaint/silexspring.htm
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap140827.html
..............................................................
He wist not whither (having staid his pastime till the morrow)
Comes Cadmus Nephew to this thicke: and entring in with sorrow
(Such was his cursed cruell fate) saw Phebe where she washt.
The Damsels at the sight of man quite out of countnance dasht,
(Bicause they EVERichone were BARE and naked to the quicke)
Did beate their handes against their breasts, and cast out such a shricke,
That all the wood did ring thereof: and clinging to their dame
Did all they could to hide both hir and eke them[S]elves fro shame.
But Ph[E]be was of personage so [C]omly and so tall,
That b[Y] the middle of hir neck[E] she overpeerd them al[L].
Such colour as appear[E]s in Heaven by Phebus b[R]oken rayes
Directly shining on the Cloudes, or such as is alwayes
The colour of the Morning Cloudes before the Sunne doth show,
Such sanguine colour in the face of Phoebe gan to glowe
There standing naked in his sight. Who though she had hir gard
Of Nymphes about hir: yet she turnde hir bodie from him ward.
.............................................
___ <= 19 =>
.
. D i d a l l t h e y c o u l d t o h i
. d e b o t h h i r a n d e k e t h e m
. [S] e l v e s f r o s h a m e B u t P h
. [E] b e w a s o f p e r s o n a g e s o
. [C] o m l y a n d s o t a l l,T h a t b
. [Y] t h e m i d d l e o f h i r n e c k
. [E] s h e o v e r p e e r d t h e m a l
. [L].S u c h c o l o u r a s a p p e a r
. [E] s i n H e a v e n b y P h e b u s b
. [R] o k e n r a y e s
.
[R.E.LEYCES.] -19 : Prob. in Metamorphoses ~ 1 in 275
(Dedicated to [R]obert [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter!)
................................................
[R.E.LEYCES.] shortest skip in KJV: 1491
---------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.luminarium.org/renascence-editions/lodge/lodge1.html
.
. THOMAS LODGE: Rosalynde. Euphues golden Legacie,
. found after his death in his Cell at {SILEX}[EDRA],
.
Did not Rosalinde content her Rosader? The
Forrest[E]r at this smiling, {S}hooke his head,
an[D] folding h{I}s armes made this merrie [R]ep{L}y.
*TRUTH gentle Swaine*, Rosad{E}r h[A]th his Rosalynde,
but as I{X}ion had Juno, who thinking to possesse a
goddesse, only imbraced a clowd : in these imaginary
fruitions of fancie, I resemble the birds that
fed them selves with *ZEUXIS painted GRAPES* ;
...........................................................
. <= 28 =>
.
. T h e F o r r e s t[E]r a t t h i s s m i l i n g{S}h
. o o k e h i s h e a d,a n[D]f o l d i n g h{I}s a r m
. e s m a d e t h i s m e r r i e[R]e p{L}y*T R U T H g
. e n t l e S w a i n e*R o s a d{E}r h[A]t h h i s R o
. s a l y n d e,b u t a s I{X}i o n h a d J u[N]o,w h o
. t h i n k i n g t o p o s s e s s e a g o d d e s[S]e,
. o n l y i m b r a c e d a c l o w d
.
{SILEX-} 26
[EDRANS] 30 :
...........................................................
. Rosalynde: SALADYNES SONNET.
.
. If it be *TRUE* that heavens eternall course
. With [R]est[L]ess[E] swa[Y] and [C]eas[E]les[S] turning glides,
. If aire inconstant be, and swelling sourse
. Turne and returns with many fluent tides,
. If earth in winter summers pride *eSTRANGE* ,
. And Nature seemeth onely faire in change.
............................................
. <= 4 =>
.
. W i t h
. [R] e s t
. [L] e s s
. [E] s w a
. [Y] a n d
. [C] e a s
. [E] l e s
. [S] t u r
. n i n g
. g l i d
. e s,

[R.LEYCES] 4 : Prob. in Sonnet ~ 1 in 200,000
[R.LEYCES] shortest pos. skip in KJV: 392
................................................
. If it be *TRUE* that our immortall spright,
. Derivde from heavenly pure, in wandring still
. In noveltie and *STRANGEnesse* doth delight,
. And by discoVEREnt power discerneth ill,
. And if the body for to worke his best
. Doth with the seasons change his place of rest.
.
. Whence *COMES* it that (inforst by furious Skies)
. I change both place and soyle, but not my hart ?
. Yet salve not in this change my maladies ?
. Whence growes it that each object workes my smart ?
. Alas I see my faith procures my misse,
. And change in love against my nature is.
------------------------------------------------------
(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston

But I am vext, when swarmes of Iulians
Are still manur'd by lewd Precisians.
Who scorning Church rites, take the simbole vp
As s[L]ou[E]nl[Y], as [C]ar[E]le[S]se Courtiers slup
.............................................
. A s s
. [L] o u
. [E] n l
. [Y],a s
. [C] a r
. [E] l e
. [S] s e
.
[LEYCES] 3 : Prob. at end ~ 1 in 1990
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Art Neuendorffer
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"Courte deare verse"
is an anagram of
AUSTERE RECOVERED
[DOES DOSE ODES] CREATURE [EVER VEER]
DECREASE TRUE [OVER ROVE]
DECREASE OVERTURE
as well as
ORDER ACUTE SEVERE
SO CREATURE VEERED
It's also an anagram of "Arouse erect de Ver", which is what Orazio Cogno is said to have done.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
which all goes to prove...
"Prove"?! You plainly have *NO IDEA* what a proof is, Art -- at any rate, the kind of proof that isn't stamped on bottles of spirits.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
That one should avoid anagrams that aren't at least 50% proper names.
But Art -- many of your "anagrams" (most of which are *NOT* anagrams) violate that rule (which is completely arbitrary in any case), just as your supposed equidistant letter sequences (most of which are *NOT* equidistant letter sequences) violate the rules.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
My own interest
If that *really* is what interests you, Art, then you desperately need a hobby!
...most of which are *NOT* equidistant letter sequences. The VERy few that are valid equidistant letter sequences generally say something utterly unremarkable and senseless -- when they are not sheer moronic nonsense, as is usually the case.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. <= 6 =>
.
. A l [L] p r a
. i s [E] w o r
. t h [Y].L u c
. r e [C] i a S
. w e [E] t S h
. a k [S] p e a
. r e.
[LEYCES] 6
...which is moronic nonsense, and conforms to the pattern that I noted above.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
The Polimanteia was dedicated to the [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter's
step-son & protege: Robert Devereux, Earl of Essex (1566-1601)
.
Spenser & Daniel both wrote dedications to Mary *SIDNEY* wife of
[LEYCES]ter's best friend: Henry Herbert Earl of Pembroke (1534-1601)
Robert Dudley, 1st [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter,
(24 June 1532 - 4 Sept. 1588) in 1565 knighted
Sir Thomas Lucy (24 April 1532 - 7 July 1600)
[LEYCES]ter is said to have disuaded [sic]
Is English your native tongue, Art?
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
Lucy from
prosecuting Shakspere for his deer poaching.
Since you dearly love repetition, Art, do you know how Shakespeare's offense against Lucy resembles Oxford's offense against Cogno?

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
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___ <= 19 =>
.
. D i d a l l t h e y c o u l d t o h i
. d e b o t h h i r a n d e k e t h e m
. [S] e l v e s f r o s h a m e B u t P h
. [E] b e w a s o f p e r s o n a g e s o
. [C] o m l y a n d s o t a l l,T h a t b
. [Y] t h e m i d d l e o f h i r n e c k
. [E] s h e o v e r p e e r d t h e m a l
. [L].S u c h c o l o u r a s a p p e a r
. [E] s i n H e a v e n b y P h e b u s b
. [R] o k e n r a y e s
.
[R.E.LEYCES.] -19
...which is moronic nonsense, and conforms to the pattern that I noted above.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. <= 4 =>
.
. W i t h
. [R] e s t
. [L] e s s
. [E] s w a
. [Y] a n d
. [C] e a s
. [E] l e s
. [S] t u r
. n i n g
. g l i d
. e s,
[R.LEYCES] 4
...which is moronic nonsense, and conforms to the pattern that I noted above.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
But Art -- "Iohn Marston's Satire" is an anagram of "Art's insane shit-room", a trenchant description of the Noonedafter dumpster into which h.l.a.s. has degenerated.

It's also an anagram of "Art (ass, moron) is thine", words addressed by the Grand Master to those of us whom he still assigns to coVER h.l.a.s. while the more fortunate have escaped to the Forest of Arden, Oxfraud, and other less Noonedafter-infested venues.

These perfect anagrams should persuade you of the folly of oVERlooking anagrams not satisfying the INIPNC criterion, Art.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
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. A s s
. [L] o u
. [E] n l
. [Y],a s
. [C] a r
. [E] l e
. [S] s e
.
[LEYCES] 3 : Prob. at end ~ 1 in 1990
...which is moronic nonsense, and conforms to the pattern that I noted above.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
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Art Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter)
BCD
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[...]
It's also an anagram of "Art (ass, moron) is thine", words addressed by the Grand Master to those of us whom he still assigns to coVER h.l.a.s. while the more fortunate have escaped to the Forest of Arden, Oxfraud, and other less Noonedafter-infested venues.
[...]

***Alas, David, since budget cuts made by the new Code Orange
administration, the Grand Master has been forced to limit my h.l.a.s.
surveillance to a quick glance every six weeks or so so that I can
instead concentrate on that troubling new spot, concerning which I trust
you received last week's memorandum.

***One received these new instructions with mixed feelings. Alongside
the jubilation has been a definite undercurrent of sorrow to see merrie
tymes of olde so reduced. One misses the boon companions of yore,
whatever stripe they sported.

***I am hoping that our spring conclave will address some of these
issues. As it happens, I'm on the entertainment committee this year,
and hope that you find a program of lieder as rendered by our agents
assigned to the Ulan Bator office an attractive prospect for
accompanying the main luncheon. They're really very eager to please,
and word has it that the early rehearsals are going quite well. Are you
a committee member this year?

Best Wishes,

--BCD
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[...]
It's also an anagram of "Art (ass, moron) is thine", words addressed by the Grand Master to those of us whom he still assigns to coVER h.l.a.s. while the more fortunate have escaped to the Forest of Arden, Oxfraud, and other less Noonedafter-infested venues.
[...]
***Alas, David, since budget cuts made by the new Code Orange
administration, the Grand Master has been forced to limit my h.l.a.s.
surveillance to a quick glance every six weeks or so so that I can
instead concentrate on that troubling new spot, concerning which I trust
you received last week's memorandum.
***One received these new instructions with mixed feelings. Alongside
the jubilation has been a definite undercurrent of sorrow to see merrie
tymes of olde so reduced. One misses the boon companions of yore,
whatever stripe they sported.
***I am hoping that our spring conclave will address some of these
issues. As it happens, I'm on the entertainment committee this year,
and hope that you find a program of lieder as rendered by our agents
assigned to the Ulan Bator office an attractive prospect for
accompanying the main luncheon. They're really very eager to please,
and word has it that the early rehearsals are going quite well. Are you
a committee member this year?
Best Wishes,
--BCD
This would have been more convincing if you had named your spouse, Brent.

Art
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[...]
It's also an anagram of "Art (ass, moron) is thine", words addressed by
the Grand Master to those of us whom he still assigns to coVER h.l.a.s.
while the more fortunate have escaped to the Forest of Arden, Oxfraud,
and other less Noonedafter-infested venues.
[...]
***Alas, David, since budget cuts made by the new Code Orange
administration, the Grand Master has been forced to limit my h.l.a.s.
surveillance to a quick glance every six weeks or so so that I can
instead concentrate on that troubling new spot, concerning which I trust
you received last week's memorandum.
***One received these new instructions with mixed feelings. Alongside
the jubilation has been a definite undercurrent of sorrow to see merrie
tymes of olde so reduced. One misses the boon companions of yore,
whatever stripe they sported.
***I am hoping that our spring conclave will address some of these
issues. As it happens, I'm on the entertainment committee this year,
and hope that you find a program of lieder as rendered by our agents
assigned to the Ulan Bator office an attractive prospect for
accompanying the main luncheon. They're really very eager to please,
and word has it that the early rehearsals are going quite well. Are you
a committee member this year?
Best Wishes,
--BCD
This would have been more convincing if you had named your spouse, Brent.
Since when is naming one's spouse a criterion for credibility of a Usenet post, Art?! And what makes you think (usual disclaimer) that Brent is married in the first place?! Don't you know *anything* about the Templars, Art?!
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Art
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[...]
It's also an anagram of "Art (ass, moron) is thine", words addressed by
the Grand Master to those of us whom he still assigns to coVER h.l.a.s.
while the more fortunate have escaped to the Forest of Arden, Oxfraud,
and other less Noonedafter-infested venues.
-------------------------------------------------
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
Post by BCD
***Alas, David, since budget cuts made by the new Code Orange
administration, the Grand Master has been forced to limit my h.l.a.s.
surveillance to a quick glance every six weeks or so so that I can
instead concentrate on that troubling new spot, concerning which I trust
you received last week's memorandum.
***One received these new instructions with mixed feelings. Alongside
the jubilation has been a definite undercurrent of sorrow to see merrie
tymes of olde so reduced. One misses the boon companions of yore,
whatever stripe they sported.
***I am hoping that our spring conclave will address some of these
issues. As it happens, I'm on the entertainment committee this year,
and hope that you find a program of lieder as rendered by our agents
assigned to the Ulan Bator office an attractive prospect for
accompanying the main luncheon. They're really very eager to please,
and word has it that the early rehearsals are going quite well.
Are you a committee member this year?
Best Wishes,
--BCD
This would have been more convincing if you had named your spouse, Brent.
------------------------------------------------
Lea wrote:

<<Since when is naming one's spouse a criterion for credibility of a Usenet post, Art?! And what makes you think (usual disclaimer) that Brent is married in the first place?! Don't you know *anything* about the Templars, Art?!>>
Since Major Tom Reedy did it.

(And to gain more credibility I have done it.)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Major Tom Reedy wrote (and the quickly deleted):

<<Hi Bob [Grumman].

thanks for the compliment, but as you know, who we debate is out of
our hands. I got an e-mail from the Trust & was assigned Foelster just
as soon as his name appeared on the ng. Boy, I'm glad I was taken off
Crowley: the man is too well-read & intelligent, it was all I could do
to keep up with him.

I'm damn glad they've never given me Art to debate; I feel sorry for
poor David. Of course that new anagram program they have is sure coming
in handy for him, but I *NEVER* want to go toe-to-toe with Art--he knows
too much, although I doubt if he's even aware of all he knows.

Hey, I finally got the check. Something about a computer virus in the
mainframe at Stratford. I was glad to see it--the rent was overdue
& I had to pay a late fee.

Sorry about that last e-mail appearing on the ng.
Apparently I hit "post" instead of "e-mail." It won't happen again.

My 14-year-old is giving me trouble--the usual ersatz teenage angst.
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He doesn't want to accept his occupation being already chosen for him. I
told him it was like the Phantom--the ghost who walks--& that it was an
honor to be born into a family with a 400-year old mission, but he just
sulks off & gets on the computer. I'm sure he'll come around--we all
do, eventually.

Meanwhile all he does is play on the computer (he's a real whiz at
programming) & mutters about how he's going to "fix me" & about
some grandoise plan he has to "expose the truth to the world."

Yeah, right, that'll be the day, hey Bob?

Who do you think is going to get the old monument in April? Schoenbaum
had it for so long I think they almost completely forgot about it. I
vote for Matus--he deserves it. I've heard some say that Dave or Terry
should get it, but they're a little young yet, I think. I know damn
well it'll be years before I'm eligible, not to mention that whoever
gets it keeps it for life.

Say, before they ship it to whomever they give it to we should all
gather around it & have our picture taken & send it to Kennedy! I'd
want to pose atop the woolsack. Wouldn't that be a hoot! I bet the old
fart would think he was having the DTs! If a picture could be printed
with some type of disappearing ink that couldn't be copied it would be
worth it. Maybe he'd have a heart attack or something & we'd be rid of
that thorn in the side & make our jobs a lot easier.

Well, that's about it for now. Brenda says to tell the family "hi"
& that we'll see you all in Stratford in April.
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Lea wrote:

<<And what makes you think (usual disclaimer) that Brent is married in
the first place?! Don't you know *anything* about the Templars, Art?!>>

Is Brent a Templar, Dave?!

(And are you a committee member this year?)

Art Neuendorffer
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It's also an anagram of "Art (ass, moron) is thine", words addressed by
the Grand Master to those of us whom he still assigns to coVER h.l.a.s.
while the more fortunate have escaped to the Forest of Arden, Oxfraud,
and other less Noonedafter-infested venues.
-------------------------------------------------
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Post by BCD
***Alas, David, since budget cuts made by the new Code Orange
administration, the Grand Master has been forced to limit my h.l.a.s.
surveillance to a quick glance every six weeks or so so that I can
instead concentrate on that troubling new spot, concerning which I trust
you received last week's memorandum.
***One received these new instructions with mixed feelings. Alongside
the jubilation has been a definite undercurrent of sorrow to see merrie
tymes of olde so reduced. One misses the boon companions of yore,
whatever stripe they sported.
***I am hoping that our spring conclave will address some of these
issues. As it happens, I'm on the entertainment committee this year,
and hope that you find a program of lieder as rendered by our agents
assigned to the Ulan Bator office an attractive prospect for
accompanying the main luncheon. They're really very eager to please,
and word has it that the early rehearsals are going quite well.
Are you a committee member this year?
Best Wishes,
--BCD
This would have been more convincing if you had named your spouse, Brent.
------------------------------------------------
<<Since when is naming one's spouse a criterion for credibility of a Usenet
post, Art?! And what makes you think (usual disclaimer) that Brent is
married in the first place?! Don't you know *anything* about the Templars,
Art?!>>
Since Major Tom Reedy did it.
So, because a *single* credulous idiot fell hook, line, and sinker for Tom's obvious prank that eVERyone else recognized immediately as a joke, and because Tom mentioned the name of his wife therein, you think (usual disclaimer) that naming one's spouse automatically confers credibility?!?!

You should really apply right away for a Trump cabinet position, Art -- he needs all the help that he can get in establishing credibility, so he would no doubt find your advice invaluable.
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(And to gain more credibility I have done it.)
It would take a *lot* more than a mere mention of St. Carolyn to afford *you* any credibility, Art! After all, you're the guy who claims that _vier_ is Spanish for "four", that Ann Hathaway was Shakespeare's mother, that Virgil predated Herodotus, that a man bound from New Haven to New York would board a nonstop flight from Boston to Los Angeles, and that _Don Quixote_ was written in English!

Incidentally, Art, you did not answer my other question: What on earth makes you think (usual disclaimer) that Brent is married? Don't you know that Templars cannot marry?!
Is English your native tongue, Art?

No wonder you were unable to detect that Tom's post was a joke, Art -- it was written in English, which is Greek to you.

[Tom's amusing but glaringly obvious joke deleted]
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<<And what makes you think (usual disclaimer) that Brent is married in
the first place?! Don't you know *anything* about the Templars, Art?!>>
Is Brent a Templar, Dave?!
I am not permitted by my vow of obedience to comment upon personnel matters, Art.
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(And are you a committee member this year?)
I am not permitted by my vow of obedience to comment upon personnel matters, Art.
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This would have been more convincing if you had named your spouse, Brent.
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<<Since when is naming one's spouse a criterion
for credibility of a Usenet post, Art?!>>
Since Major Tom Reedy did it.
Lea wrote:

<<So, because a *single* credulous idiot fell hook, line, and sinker for Tom's obvious prank that eVERyone else recognized immediately as a joke, and because Tom mentioned the name of his wife therein, you think (usual disclaimer) that naming one's spouse automatically confers credibility?!?!>>

I'm not *single* , Dave(; remember St. Carolyn)!

Lea wrote:

<<You should really apply right away for a Trump cabinet position, Art -- he needs all the help that he can get in establishing credibility, so he would no doubt find your advice invaluable.>>

I'd have to recuse myself as well;
remember Mickey Leaks (aka, Putin stooge Peter Nockolds).
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(And to gain more credibility I have done it.)
Lea wrote:

<<It would take a *lot* more than a mere mention of St. Carolyn to afford *you* any credibility, Art! After all, you're the guy who claims that _Don Quixote_ was written in English!>>

But it got translated into Spanish.
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<<And what makes you think (usual disclaimer) that Brent is married in
the first place?! Don't you know *anything* about the Templars, Art?!>>
Is Brent a Templar, Dave?!
I am not permitted by my vow of obedience to comment upon personnel matters, Art.

You went to obedience school?
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(And are you a committee member this year?)
I am not permitted by my vow of obedience to comment upon personnel matters, Art.

What about your vows of poVERty, chastity, and <PIE>ty?
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_______________ <= 19 =>
.
. T OTHEO - (N) l ___{I} _ <E>B E G E T T E RO
. F THESE_- (I) n __-{S} - U<I>N G S O N N ET
. S MrWha_- (L) L __ [H]A {P} <P>{I}_(N){S}S{S}EA
. N Dthat___ (E) T __ [E]R N_ <I> T__(I) E<P>R OM
. I SEDB Y O u ___- [R]E _ V <E> R_ (L)<I>V I NG
. <P>OEtW I s h ____ [E]T __ H (T) H__(E) W E L LW
. <I>ShIN- G a _____ [d V e] __ N (T) u _____ ReRI NS
. <E>tTIN G fort----_________ H (T) t
........................................................
. Probability of Upper & Lower (NILE)'s ~ 1/176,000
. Probability of 4 oven <PIE>'s ~ 1/38,000
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<<The Least Successful Collector Betsy Baker played a central role in
the history of collecting. She was employed as a servant in the house
of John Warburton (1682-1759) who had amassed a fine collection of 58
1st edition plays, including most of the works of Shakespeare. One day
Warburton returned home to find 55 of them charred beyond legibility.
Betsy had either burned them or used them as <PIE> bottoms. The
remaining 3 folios are now in the British Museum.>> - Stephen PIlE
.
. http://hometown.aol.com/clasz/Chap9.html
.
[NOTE: some 60 manuscripts of plays of this period eventually come
. into the hands of a collector named John Warburton* (1682-1759).
.
. Many are the only surviving coPIES of plays that had never
. been printed. Unfortunately Warburton was careless with
. them and his servant, Betsy Baker, made use of them
. to light her stove and line the bottom of <PIES>.]>>
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This would have been more convincing if you had named your spouse, Brent.
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<<Since when is naming one's spouse a criterion
for credibility of a Usenet post, Art?!>>
Since Major Tom Reedy did it.
<<So, because a *single* credulous idiot fell hook, line, and sinker for
Tom's obvious prank that eVERyone else recognized immediately as a joke,
and because Tom mentioned the name of his wife therein, you think (usual
disclaimer) that naming one's spouse automatically confers credibility?!?!>>
I'm not *single* , Dave(; remember St. Carolyn)!
My use of the word "single" was in a sense with which you manifestly are unfamiliar, Art; of course, that is the case with most commonplace English words. But thank you for confirming that you are indeed a credulous idiot, albeit no doubt a "VERy stable" one.
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<<You should really apply right away for a Trump cabinet position, Art --
he needs all the help that he can get in establishing credibility, so he
would no doubt find your advice invaluable.>>
I'd have to recuse myself as well;
remember Mickey Leaks (aka, Putin stooge Peter Nockolds).
What makes you think (usual disclaimer) that he is a "Putin stooge", Art?
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(And to gain more credibility I have done it.)
<<It would take a *lot* more than a mere mention of St. Carolyn to afford
*you* any credibility, Art! After all, you're the guy who claims that _Don
Quixote_ was written in English!>>
But it got translated into Spanish.
I have already shown how utterly ludicrous and untenable that delusion is, Art -- only Carrs (and nars) subscribe to it, just as only credulous idiots think (usual disclaimer) that Virgil predated Herodotus, that Ann Hathaway was Shakespeare's mother, or that _vier_ is Spanish for "four".
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<<And what makes you think (usual disclaimer) that Brent is married in
the first place?! Don't you know *anything* about the Templars, Art?!>>
Is Brent a Templar, Dave?!
I am not permitted by my vow of obedience to comment upon personnel matters, Art.
You went to obedience school?
No, Art; it is part of the breeding of those of the Bloodline.
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(And are you a committee member this year?)
I am not permitted by my vow of obedience to comment upon personnel matters, Art.
What about your vows of poVERty,
You don't think (usual disclaimer) that we are paid a living wage, do you, Art?! The Trust has good intentions, of course, but its resources are limited.
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chastity,
I'm not the one who has been eagerly pursuing Brenda James, Art; you are. And a word to the wise, Art (and to you as well): if you wish to continue trying to enhance your credibility by mentioning your spouse, you'd better be discreet -- there is a limit to the patience even of saints.
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and <PIE>ty?
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. T OTHEO - (N) l ___{I} _ <E>B E G E T T E RO
. F THESE_- (I) n __-{S} - U<I>N G S O N N ET
. S MrWha_- (L) L __ [H]A {P} <P>{I}_(N){S}S{S}EA
. N Dthat___ (E) T __ [E]R N_ <I> T__(I) E<P>R OM
. I SEDB Y O u ___- [R]E _ V <E> R_ (L)<I>V I NG
. <P>OEtW I s h ____ [E]T __ H (T) H__(E) W E L LW
. <I>ShIN- G a _____ [d V e] __ N (T) u _____ ReRI NS
. <E>tTIN G fort----_________ H (T) t
The above effusion of crackpot cryptography makes it evident that you are confusing "piety" with the state of being "pie-eyed", Art.

[Crackpot cryptography snipped]
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<<The Least Successful Collector Betsy Baker
Any relation to "Dr." Faker, Art?
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played a central role in
the history of collecting. She was employed as a servant in the house
of John Warburton (1682-1759) who had amassed a fine collection of 58
1st edition plays, including most of the works of Shakespeare. One day
Warburton returned home to find 55 of them charred beyond legibility.
Betsy had either burned them or used them as <PIE> bottoms. The
remaining 3 folios are now in the British Museum.>> - Stephen PIlE
.
. http://hometown.aol.com/clasz/Chap9.html
That link doesn't work, Art -- as usual.
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[NOTE: some 60 manuscripts of plays of this period eventually come
. into the hands of a collector named John Warburton* (1682-1759).
.
. Many are the only surviving coPIES of plays that had never
. been printed. Unfortunately Warburton was careless with
. them and his servant, Betsy Baker, made use of them
. to light her stove and line the bottom of <PIES>.]>>
But Art -- Oxford's contemporaries reported that he used to line up the bottoms of boys.
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"Courte deare verse"
is an anagram of
AUSTERE RECOVERED
[DOES DOSE ODES] CREATURE [EVER VEER]
DECREASE TRUE [OVER ROVE]
DECREASE OVERTURE
as well as
ORDER ACUTE SEVERE
SO CREATURE VEERED
which all goes to prove...
That one should avoid anagrams that aren't at least 50% proper names.
Lea wrote:

<<But Art -- many of your "anagrams" violate that rule.>>

That's FAKE NEWS-GROUP!
Lea wrote:

<<The VERy few that are valid equidistant letter sequences
generally say something utterly unremarkable....>>

Then don't remark about them, Dave.
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. <= 6 =>
.
. A l [L] p r a
. i s [E] w o r
. t h [Y].L u c
. r e [C] i a S
. w e [E] t S h
. a k [S] p e a
. r e.
[LEYCES] 6
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>

It takes one to know one.
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The Polimanteia was dedicated to the [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter's
step-son & protege: Robert Devereux, Earl of Essex (1566-1601)
.
Spenser & Daniel both wrote dedications to Mary *SIDNEY* wife of
[LEYCES]ter's best friend: Henry Herbert Earl of Pembroke (1534-1601)
Robert Dudley, 1st [E]arle of [LEYCES]ter,
(24 June 1532 - 4 Sept. 1588) in 1565 knighted
Sir Thomas Lucy (24 April 1532 - 7 July 1600)
[LEYCES]ter is said to have dissuaded Lucy from
prosecuting Shakspere for his deer poaching.
___ <= 19 =>
.
. D i d a l l t h e y c o u l d t o h i
. d e b o t h h i r a n d e k e t h e m
. [S] e l v e s f r o s h a m e B u t P h
. [E] b e w a s o f p e r s o n a g e s o
. [C] o m l y a n d s o t a l l,T h a t b
. [Y] t h e m i d d l e o f h i r n e c k
. [E] s h e o v e r p e e r d t h e m a l
. [L].S u c h c o l o u r a s a p p e a r
. [E] s i n H e a v e n b y P h e b u s b
. [R] o k e n r a y e s
.
[R.E.LEYCES.] -19
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>

It takes one to know one.
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. <= 4 =>
.
. W i t h
. [R] e s t
. [L] e s s
. [E] s w a
. [Y] a n d
. [C] e a s
. [E] l e s
. [S] t u r
. n i n g
. g l i d
. e s,
[R.LEYCES] 4
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>

It takes one to know one.
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(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
Lea wrote:

<<But Art -- "Iohn Marston's Satire" is an anagram of "Art's insane shit-room",

INPNC = 3/18

Lea wrote:

<<...a trenchant description of the Noonedafter
dumpster into which h.l.a.s. has degenerated.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_diving

<<Dumpster diving, commonly referred to in the UK and many parts of Europe as totting, skipping, skip diving or skip salvage, is a popular form of modern salvaging to find items that may prove useful to the picker. Some people [Waugh?] do this professionally and systematically for large profits. Dumpster diving can additionally be used in support of academic research.>>
-------------------------------------------
It's also an anagram of "Art (ass, moron) is thine",

INPNC = 3/18

Lea wrote:

<<words addressed by the Grand Master to those of us whom he still assigns to coVER h.l.a.s. while the more fortunate have escaped to the Forest of Arden, Oxfraud, and other less Noonedafter-infested venues.>>

Oxfraud is a suckers bet while the Forest of Arden is long dead:
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__ Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
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07 413 739 555 461 386 199 115 191 171 250 177 6
08 19 56 18 33 5 53 340 626 436 532 421 336
09 75 172 196 82 199 67 53 21 17 96 93 114
10 83 77 101 110 98 376 417 455 223 328 272 107
11 30 41 112 77 20 92 142 40 28 71 44 5
12 2 0 0 0 <= FOA death
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. A s s
. [L] o u
. [E] n l
. [Y],a s
. [C] a r
. [E] l e
. [S] s e
.
[LEYCES] 3 : Prob. at end ~ 1 in 1990
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>

Masonic nonsense?
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"Courte deare verse"
is an anagram of
AUSTERE RECOVERED
[DOES DOSE ODES] CREATURE [EVER VEER]
DECREASE TRUE [OVER ROVE]
DECREASE OVERTURE
as well as
ORDER ACUTE SEVERE
SO CREATURE VEERED
which all goes to prove...
That one should avoid anagrams that aren't at least 50% proper names.
<<But Art -- many of your "anagrams"
...most of which are not even anagrams at all!...
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
violate that rule.>>
That's FAKE NEWS-GROUP!
No, it isn't, Art; I've furnished numerous examples in the past. Among the most amusing is your delusional belief that "I kill Edward de Vere" is an anagram of "weaves sledded silk" -- thir ir an anagsam to a csetinour illitesate who demonrtsably cannot dirtingurh "r" fsom "s", but thore of ur who can sead Englirh (os can secognize lettesr of the Roman alphabet) know bettes.
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<<The VERy few that are valid equidistant letter sequences
generally say something utterly unremarkable....>>
Then don't remark about them, Dave.
Well, *someone* has to teach you to count, Art! George Mason Elementary was manifestly unsuccessful.
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. <= 6 =>
.
. A l [L] p r a
. i s [E] w o r
. t h [Y].L u c
. r e [C] i a S
. w e [E] t S h
. a k [S] p e a
. r e.
[LEYCES] 6
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
That's false, Art. I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters -- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!
[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
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___ <= 19 =>
.
. D i d a l l t h e y c o u l d t o h i
. d e b o t h h i r a n d e k e t h e m
. [S] e l v e s f r o s h a m e B u t P h
. [E] b e w a s o f p e r s o n a g e s o
. [C] o m l y a n d s o t a l l,T h a t b
. [Y] t h e m i d d l e o f h i r n e c k
. [E] s h e o v e r p e e r d t h e m a l
. [L].S u c h c o l o u r a s a p p e a r
. [E] s i n H e a v e n b y P h e b u s b
. [R] o k e n r a y e s
.
[R.E.LEYCES.] -19
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
That's false, Art. I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters -- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!
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. <= 4 =>
.
. W i t h
. [R] e s t
. [L] e s s
. [E] s w a
. [Y] a n d
. [C] e a s
. [E] l e s
. [S] t u r
. n i n g
. g l i d
. e s,
[R.LEYCES] 4
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
That's false, Art. I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters -- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!
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(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
<<But Art -- "Iohn Marston's Satire" is an anagram of "Art's insane shit-
room",
INPNC = 3/18
But Art -- the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is, as its name conveys, idiotic.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
<<...a trenchant description of the Noonedafter
dumpster into which h.l.a.s. has degenerated.>>
-------------------------------------------
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_diving
<<Dumpster diving, commonly referred to in the UK and many parts of Europe
as totting, skipping, skip diving or skip salvage, is a popular form of
modern salvaging to find items that may prove useful to the picker. Some
people [Waugh?] do this professionally and systematically for large profits.
Dumpster diving can additionally be used in support of academic research.>>
-------------------------------------------
It's also an anagram of "Art (ass, moron) is thine",
INPNC = 3/18
But Art -- the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is, as its name conveys, idiotic.
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<<words addressed by the Grand Master to those of us whom he still assigns
to coVER h.l.a.s. while the more fortunate have escaped to the Forest of
Arden, Oxfraud, and other less Noonedafter-infested venues.>>
Oxfraud is a suckers [sic] bet
Is English not your native tongue, Art?
It has fallen idle only because Oxfraud is a more suitable venue. And Oxfraud, like the Forest, still affords the latter's founding desideratum: "More matter, with less Art".
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. A s s
. [L] o u
. [E] n l
. [Y],a s
. [C] a r
. [E] l e
. [S] s e
.
[LEYCES] 3 : Prob. at end ~ 1 in 1990
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
Masonic nonsense?
No, Art; *moronic* nonsense. To paraphrase Wodehouse, no self-respecting Mason would be caught dead in a ditch with it!
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"Courte deare verse"
is an anagram of
AUSTERE RECOVERED
[DOES DOSE ODES] CREATURE [EVER VEER]
DECREASE TRUE [OVER ROVE]
DECREASE OVERTURE
as well as
ORDER ACUTE SEVERE
SO CREATURE VEERED
which all goes to prove...
That one should avoid anagrams that aren't at least 50% proper names.
<<But Art -- many of your "anagrams" violate that rule.>>
That's FAKE NEWS-GROUP!
Lea wrote:

<<No, it isn't, Art; I've furnished numerous examples in the past. Among the most amusing is your delusional belief that "I kill Edward de Vere" is an anagram of "weaves sledded silk" -- thir ir an anagsam to a csetinour illitesate who demonrtsably cannot dirtingurh "r" fsom "s", but thore of ur who can sead Englirh (os can secognize lettesr of the Roman alphabet) know bettes.>>

You've furnished ONE example.
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<<The VERy few that are valid equidistant letter sequences
generally say something utterly unremarkable....>>
Then don't remark about them, Dave.
Lea wrote:

<<Well, *someone* has to teach you to count, Art!
George Mason Elementary was manifestly unsuccessful.>>

Masonic conspiracy?
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. <= 6 =>
.
. A l [L] p r a
. i s [E] w o r
. t h [Y].L u c
. r e [C] i a S
. w e [E] t S h
. a k [S] p e a
. r e.
[LEYCES] 6
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
Lea wrote: <<I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters
-- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!>>

I'm now proud to be a Virginian but ashamed to be an American.
(Not unlike Bobby Lee!)
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Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
___ <= 19 =>
.
. D i d a l l t h e y c o u l d t o h i
. d e b o t h h i r a n d e k e t h e m
. [S] e l v e s f r o s h a m e B u t P h
. [E] b e w a s o f p e r s o n a g e s o
. [C] o m l y a n d s o t a l l,T h a t b
. [Y] t h e m i d d l e o f h i r n e c k
. [E] s h e o v e r p e e r d t h e m a l
. [L].S u c h c o l o u r a s a p p e a r
. [E] s i n H e a v e n b y P h e b u s b
. [R] o k e n r a y e s
.
[R.E.LEYCES.] -19
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
Lea wrote: <<I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters
-- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!>>

I'm now proud to be a Virginian but ashamed to be an American.
(Not unlike [R.E.LEE]!)
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. <= 4 =>
.
. W i t h
. [R] e s t
. [L] e s s
. [E] s w a
. [Y] a n d
. [C] e a s
. [E] l e s
. [S] t u r
. n i n g
. g l i d
. e s,
[R.LEYCES] 4
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
Lea wrote: <<I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters
-- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!>>

I'm now proud to be a Virginian but ashamed to be an American.
(Not unlike [R.LEE]!)
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
<<But Art -- "Iohn Marston's Satire"
is an anagram of "Art's insane shit-room",
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
INPNC = 3/18
Lea wrote: << the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is,
as its name conveys, idiotic.>>

Shake-speare's most perceptive characters are Fools.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
<<...a trenchant description of the Noonedafter
dumpster into which h.l.a.s. has degenerated.>>
-------------------------------------------
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_diving
<<Dumpster diving, commonly referred to in the UK and many parts of Europe
as totting, skipping, skip diving or skip salvage, is a popular form of
modern salvaging to find items that may prove useful to the picker. Some
people [Waugh?] do this professionally and systematically for large profits.
Dumpster diving can additionally be used in support of academic research.>>
-------------------------------------------
It's also an anagram of "Art (ass, moron) is thine",
INPNC = 3/18
Lea wrote: << the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is,
as its name conveys, idiotic.>>
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
<<words addressed by the Grand Master to those of us whom he still assigns
to coVER h.l.a.s. while the more fortunate have escaped to the Forest of
Arden, Oxfraud, and other less Noonedafter-infested venues.>>
Lea wrote:

<<It has fallen idle only because Oxfraud is a more suitable venue.>>

The Forest of Arden is long dead because I was baned.
(And HLAS lives because I persist.)

Lea wrote: << And Oxfraud, like the Forest, still affords
the latter's founding desideratum: "More matter, with less Art".

But, Dave,...I have posted at Oxfraud already.
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. A s s
. [L] o u
. [E] n l
. [Y],a s
. [C] a r
. [E] l e
. [S] s e
.
[LEYCES] 3 : Prob. at end ~ 1 in 1990
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
Masonic nonsense?
Lea wrote: <<No, Art; *moronic* nonsense.

To paraphrase Wodehouse, no self-respecting Mason
would be caught dead in a ditch with it!>>

Do you know any self-respecting Masons, Dave?
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"Courte deare verse"
is an anagram of
AUSTERE RECOVERED
[DOES DOSE ODES] CREATURE [EVER VEER]
DECREASE TRUE [OVER ROVE]
DECREASE OVERTURE
as well as
ORDER ACUTE SEVERE
SO CREATURE VEERED
which all goes to prove...
That one should avoid anagrams that aren't at least 50% proper names.
<<But Art -- many of your "anagrams" violate that rule.>>
That's FAKE NEWS-GROUP!
<<No, it isn't, Art; I've furnished numerous examples in the past. Among
the most amusing is your delusional belief that "I kill Edward de Vere" is
an anagram of "weaves sledded silk" -- thir ir an anagsam to a csetinour
illitesate who demonrtsably cannot dirtingurh "r" fsom "s", but thore of
ur who can sead Englirh (os can secognize lettesr of the Roman alphabet)
know bettes.>>
You've furnished ONE example.
I have furnished *MANY* examples in the past, Art; would you like me to consult the Grand Master's Noonedafter archive and reproduce some of your past stupidities? The only problem is the sheer volume -- there are so *MANY* of them that one scarcely knows where to start!
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<<The VERy few that are valid equidistant letter sequences
generally say something utterly unremarkable....>>
Then don't remark about them, Dave.
<<Well, *someone* has to teach you to count, Art!
George Mason Elementary was manifestly unsuccessful.>>
Masonic conspiracy?
A Masonic conspiracy to insure that you remained illiterate? If so, it was a remarkably successful conspiracy!
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
Lea wrote: <<I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters
-- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!>>
I'm now proud to be a Virginian but ashamed to be an American.
(Not unlike Bobby Lee!)
I hope that you're ashamed to be an American for reasons *other than* those that actuated Robert E. Lee, Art -- I would hate to have to characterize you as bereft of reason, but full of treason!
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
Lea wrote: <<I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters
-- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!>>
I'm now proud to be a Virginian but ashamed to be an American.
(Not unlike [R.E.LEE]!)
I hope that you're ashamed to be an American for reasons *other than* those that actuated Robert E. Lee, Art -- I would hate to have to characterize you as bereft of reason, but full of treason!
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
Lea wrote: <<I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters
-- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!>>
I'm now proud to be a Virginian but ashamed to be an American.
(Not unlike [R.LEE]!)
I hope that you're ashamed to be an American for reasons *other than* those that actuated Robert E. Lee, Art -- I would hate to have to characterize you as bereft of reason, but full of treason!
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(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
<<But Art -- "Iohn Marston's Satire"
is an anagram of "Art's insane shit-room",
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INPNC = 3/18
Lea wrote: << the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is,
as its name conveys, idiotic.>>
Shake-speare's most perceptive characters are Fools.
No, Art. Dogberry is not especially perceptive. Nor is Bottom. For that matter, both Hamlet and Edmund in _Lear_ are perceptive, but neither is a fool. If any character in Shakespeare is perceptive, it would surely be the apparitions in _Macbeth_ -- after all, the prophesy "Macbeth shall never vanquish'd be until Great Birnam Wood to high Dunsinane Hill Shall come against him" is spoken well in advance of the event. Yet they are not fools. The soothsayer in Julius Caesar is another example of someone who is preternaturally perceptive, yet is not a fool.

You plainly have neVER read the canon, Art. Of course, I'll concede that the fact that is written in English is a virtually insuperable obstacle for you -- that and the fact that you epitomize the Dunce-inane Shill, of course.
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<<...a trenchant description of the Noonedafter
dumpster into which h.l.a.s. has degenerated.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_diving
<<Dumpster diving, commonly referred to in the UK and many parts of Europe
as totting, skipping, skip diving or skip salvage, is a popular form of
modern salvaging to find items that may prove useful to the picker. Some
people [Waugh?] do this professionally and systematically for large profits.
Dumpster diving can additionally be used in support of academic research.>>
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It's also an anagram of "Art (ass, moron) is thine",
INPNC = 3/18
Lea wrote: << the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is,
as its name conveys, idiotic.>>
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<<words addressed by the Grand Master to those of us whom he still assigns
to coVER h.l.a.s. while the more fortunate have escaped to the Forest of
Arden, Oxfraud, and other less Noonedafter-infested venues.>>
<<It has fallen idle only because Oxfraud is a more suitable venue.>>
The Forest of Arden is long dead because I was baned [sic].
Is English your native tongue, Art?
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(And HLAS lives
You call a newsgroup that is 95% idiotic crap (and 95% *endlessly repeated idiotic crap at that!) alive, Art?
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because I persist.)
Lea wrote: << And Oxfraud, like the Forest, still affords
the latter's founding desideratum: "More matter, with less Art".
But, Dave,...I have posted at Oxfraud already.
Really, Art?! Could you send me the link to your post? I must have missed your valuable contribution.
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
Masonic nonsense?
Lea wrote: <<No, Art; *moronic* nonsense.
To paraphrase Wodehouse, no self-respecting Mason
would be caught dead in a ditch with it!>>
Do you know any self-respecting Masons, Dave?
Of course, Art! The Grand Master enjoys eVERyone's respect, including his own.
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WOW! When Liddle Marco was here
Dave wouldn't even bother with a single rereply.

The Grand Master must really be on his case!
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"Courte deare verse"
is an anagram of
AUSTERE RECOVERED
[DOES DOSE ODES] CREATURE [EVER VEER]
DECREASE TRUE [OVER ROVE]
DECREASE OVERTURE
as well as
ORDER ACUTE SEVERE
SO CREATURE VEERED
which all goes to prove...
That one should avoid anagrams that aren't at least 50% proper names.
<<But Art -- many of your "anagrams" violate that rule.>>
That's FAKE NEWS-GROUP!
<<No, it isn't, Art; I've furnished numerous examples in the past. Among
the most amusing is your delusional belief that "I kill Edward de Vere" is
an anagram of "weaves sledded silk" -- thir ir an anagsam to a csetinour
illitesate who demonrtsably cannot dirtingurh "r" fsom "s", but thore of
ur who can sead Englirh (os can secognize lettesr of the Roman alphabet)
know bettes.>>
You've furnished ONE example.
Lea wrote:

<<I have furnished *MANY* examples in the past, Art; would you like me to consult the Grand Master's Noonedafter archive and reproduce some of your past stupidities?>>

Sure.
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<<The VERy few that are valid equidistant letter sequences
generally say something utterly unremarkable....>>
Then don't remark about them, Dave.
<<Well, *someone* has to teach you to count, Art!
George Mason Elementary was manifestly unsuccessful.>>
Masonic conspiracy?
Lea wrote:

<<A Masonic conspiracy to insure that you remained illiterate?>>

What does 'counting' have to do with literacy?
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
Lea wrote: <<I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters
-- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!>>
I'm now proud to be a Virginian but ashamed to be an American.
(Not unlike Bobby Lee!)
Lea wrote:

<<I hope that you're ashamed to be an American for reasons
*other than* those that actuated Robert E. Lee, Art.>>

The reasons are different but the results are the same.
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
Lea wrote: <<I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters
-- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!>>
I'm now proud to be a Virginian but ashamed to be an American.
(Not unlike [R.E.LEE]!)
Lea wrote:

<<I hope that you're ashamed to be an American for reasons
*other than* those that actuated Robert E. Lee, Art.>>

The reasons are different but the results are the same.
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
Lea wrote: <<I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters
-- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!>>
I'm now proud to be a Virginian but ashamed to be an American.
(Not unlike [R.LEE]!)
Lea wrote:

<<I hope that you're ashamed to be an American for reasons
*other than* those that actuated Robert E. Lee, Art.>>

The reasons are different but the results are the same.
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(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
<<But Art -- "Iohn Marston's Satire"
is an anagram of "Art's insane shit-room",
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INPNC = 3/18
Lea wrote: << the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is,
as its name conveys, idiotic.>>
Shake-speare's most perceptive characters are Fools.
Lea wrote:

<<No, Art. Dogberry is not especially perceptive.>>

Dogberry is a "self-satisfied night constable" with an inflated view of his own importance as the leader of a group of comically bumbling police watchmen.

(Not that unlike the Grand Master.)

Lea wrote: <<Nor is Bottom.>>

Nick Bottom is a weaver by trade.

Lea wrote: <<You plainly have neVER read the canon, Art.>>

It's usually in French:

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<<...a trenchant description of the Noonedafter
dumpster into which h.l.a.s. has degenerated.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_diving
<<Dumpster diving, commonly referred to in the UK and many parts of Europe
as totting, skipping, skip diving or skip salvage, is a popular form of
modern salvaging to find items that may prove useful to the picker. Some
people [Waugh?] do this professionally and systematically for large profits.
Dumpster diving can additionally be used in support of academic research.>>
-------------------------------------------
It's also an anagram of "Art (ass, moron) is thine",
INPNC = 3/18
Lea wrote: << the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is,
as its name conveys, idiotic.>>
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<<words addressed by the Grand Master to those of us whom he still assigns
to coVER h.l.a.s. while the more fortunate have escaped to the Forest of
Arden, Oxfraud, and other less Noonedafter-infested venues.>>
<<It has fallen idle only because Oxfraud is a more suitable venue.>>
The Forest of Arden is long dead because I was banned.
(And HLAS lives because I persist.)
Lea wrote: <<You call a newsgroup that is 95% idiotic crap
(and 95% *endlessly repeated idiotic crap at that!) alive, Art?>>

If it were dead the Grand Master wouldn't be so obsessed with it.
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Lea wrote: << And Oxfraud, like the Forest, still affords
the latter's founding desideratum: "More matter, with less Art".
But, Dave,...I have posted at Oxfraud already.
Lea wrote:

<<Really, Art?! Could you send me the link to your post?
I must have missed your valuable contribution.>>

You shouldn't have much trouble finding it, Dave.
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
Masonic nonsense?
Lea wrote: <<No, Art; *moronic* nonsense.
To paraphrase Wodehouse, no self-respecting Mason
would be caught dead in a ditch with it!>>
Do you know any self-respecting Masons, Dave?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art!
The Grand Master enjoys eVERyone's respect, including his own.>>

The Grand Master can 'get Brent' AFAIC.

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WOW! When Liddle Marco was here
Dave wouldn't even bother with a single rereply.
I am generally busy doing real work, Art.
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The Grand Master must really be on his case!
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"Courte deare verse"
is an anagram of
AUSTERE RECOVERED
[DOES DOSE ODES] CREATURE [EVER VEER]
DECREASE TRUE [OVER ROVE]
DECREASE OVERTURE
as well as
ORDER ACUTE SEVERE
SO CREATURE VEERED
which all goes to prove...
That one should avoid anagrams that aren't at least 50% proper names.
<<But Art -- many of your "anagrams" violate that rule.>>
That's FAKE NEWS-GROUP!
<<No, it isn't, Art; I've furnished numerous examples in the past. Among
the most amusing is your delusional belief that "I kill Edward de Vere" is
an anagram of "weaves sledded silk" -- thir ir an anagsam to a csetinour
illitesate who demonrtsably cannot dirtingurh "r" fsom "s", but thore of
ur who can sead Englirh (os can secognize lettesr of the Roman alphabet)
know bettes.>>
You've furnished ONE example.
<<I have furnished *MANY* examples in the past, Art; would you like me to
consult the Grand Master's Noonedafter archive and reproduce some of your
past stupidities?>>
Sure.
OK. I'll do so in another post.
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<<The VERy few that are valid equidistant letter sequences
generally say something utterly unremarkable....>>
Then don't remark about them, Dave.
<<Well, *someone* has to teach you to count, Art!
George Mason Elementary was manifestly unsuccessful.>>
Masonic conspiracy?
<<A Masonic conspiracy to insure that you remained illiterate?>>
What does 'counting' have to do with literacy?
But are rudimentary but valuable skills acquired by most children of aVERage intelligence around the age of six or seven, Art. But there are a few unusual cases who fail to learn one or the other -- or, as in your case, who fail to learn either one.
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
Lea wrote: <<I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters
-- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!>>
I'm now proud to be a Virginian but ashamed to be an American.
(Not unlike Bobby Lee!)
<<I hope that you're ashamed to be an American for reasons
*other than* those that actuated Robert E. Lee, Art.>>
The reasons are different but the results are the same.
The results are certainly similar -- both of your have become icons of a hopeless Lost Cause mythology.
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
Lea wrote: <<I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters
-- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!>>
I'm now proud to be a Virginian but ashamed to be an American.
(Not unlike [R.E.LEE]!)
<<I hope that you're ashamed to be an American for reasons
*other than* those that actuated Robert E. Lee, Art.>>
The reasons are different but the results are the same.
The results are certainly similar -- both of your have become icons of a hopeless Lost Cause mythology.
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
Lea wrote: <<I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters
-- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!>>
I'm now proud to be a Virginian but ashamed to be an American.
(Not unlike [R.LEE]!)
<<I hope that you're ashamed to be an American for reasons
*other than* those that actuated Robert E. Lee, Art.>>
The reasons are different but the results are the same.
The results are certainly similar -- both of your have become icons of a hopeless, insane, Lost Cause mythology.
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(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
<<But Art -- "Iohn Marston's Satire"
is an anagram of "Art's insane shit-room",
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INPNC = 3/18
Lea wrote: << the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is,
as its name conveys, idiotic.>>
Shake-speare's most perceptive characters are Fools.
<<No, Art. Dogberry is not especially perceptive.>>
Dogberry is a "self-satisfied night constable" with an inflated view of
his own importance as the leader of a group of comically bumbling police
watchmen.
(Not that unlike the Grand Master.)
Don't bate the Grand Master, Art -- Oxfordian lunacy still has gained as little traction as eVER in intellectual circles, thanks in large part to his tireless efforts,
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Lea wrote: <<Nor is Bottom.>>
Nick Bottom is a weaver by trade.
A weaVER, Art?!
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Lea wrote: <<You plainly have neVER read the canon, Art.>>
No, Art; it's mostly in English, with a smattering of French for comic effect in a VERy few spots.

HoweVER, it's not at all surprising that an illiterate cannot tell the difference between French and English, or for that matter, between Russian and Ossetian -- after all, you asserted, then *repeated*, the risible claim that _тæрин_ is Russian for "youth", when eVERyone who knows any Russian at all knows that the word has *nothing whateVER* to do with *any* of the Slavic roots pertaining to youth.

HoweVER, the remarkable thing is that one need not even know Russian in order to tell at once that your claim was moronic nonsense -- the word contains a letter that does not even appear in the Cyrillic alphabet used to write Russian! Only a complete illiterate could mistake Ossetian for Russian!

MoreoVER, the VERy source for your idiotic claim, the Wiktionary page, notes explicitly -- *in English*, a tongue that you can no more read than you can read Russian or Ossetian -- that the word _тæрин_ is Ossetian!

Are you sure that you want me to dredge up and repost some of your past idiocies, Art?!

[...]
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<<...a trenchant description of the Noonedafter
dumpster into which h.l.a.s. has degenerated.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_diving
<<Dumpster diving, commonly referred to in the UK and many parts of Europe
as totting, skipping, skip diving or skip salvage, is a popular form of
modern salvaging to find items that may prove useful to the picker. Some
people [Waugh?] do this professionally and systematically for large profits.
Dumpster diving can additionally be used in support of academic research.>>
-------------------------------------------
It's also an anagram of "Art (ass, moron) is thine",
INPNC = 3/18
Lea wrote: << the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is,
as its name conveys, idiotic.>>
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<<words addressed by the Grand Master to those of us whom he still assigns
to coVER h.l.a.s. while the more fortunate have escaped to the Forest of
Arden, Oxfraud, and other less Noonedafter-infested venues.>>
<<It has fallen idle only because Oxfraud is a more suitable venue.>>
The Forest of Arden is long dead because I was banned.
You initially said "baned", Art.
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(And HLAS lives because I persist.)
You'd better watch out, Art -- you'll have (t)Rump calling you "Pocahontas" before you know it.

Incidentally, Art, when are you going to send in your resumé and application for a post in (t)Rump's cabinet? You'd better hurry -- if Flynn is indeed cooperating with the special counsel's investigation, as indications suggest, then (t)Rump may be on his way out, along with much of his inner circle. If you can land a cabinet post, you would be among the VERy few left untainted by the Russia investigation, which would place you squarely in the line of succession for the top job!
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Lea wrote: <<You call a newsgroup that is 95% idiotic crap
(and 95% *endlessly repeated idiotic crap at that!) alive, Art?>>
If it were dead the Grand Master wouldn't be so obsessed with it.
The Grand Master is anything but obsessed with h.l.a.s., Art; it is merely a small, out-of-the-way corner in the vast stage upon which he plays. HoweVER, *nothing* -- not even a moribund newsgroup that has become little more than a dumpster for the endlessly repeated crackpot cryptography and moronic nonsense of an illiterate nutcase -- escapes his unceasing vigilance.
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Lea wrote: << And Oxfraud, like the Forest, still affords
the latter's founding desideratum: "More matter, with less Art".
But, Dave,...I have posted at Oxfraud already.
<<Really, Art?! Could you send me the link to your post?
I must have missed your valuable contribution.>>
You shouldn't have much trouble finding it, Dave.
Then you cannot produce the link, Art? That's what I expected. As I said, *nothing* escapes the Grand Master's unceasing vigilance -- if you had posted in Oxfraud, I would almost surely have been notified.
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
Masonic nonsense?
Lea wrote: <<No, Art; *moronic* nonsense.
To paraphrase Wodehouse, no self-respecting Mason
would be caught dead in a ditch with it!>>
Do you know any self-respecting Masons, Dave?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art!
The Grand Master enjoys eVERyone's respect, including his own.>>
The Grand Master can 'get Brent'
Huh? What does Brent have to do with this discussion, Art? Why on earth would the Grand Master want to "get" him?
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AFAIC [sic].
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WOW! When Liddle Marco was here
Dave wouldn't even bother with a single rereply.
Lea wrote: <<I am generally busy doing real work, Art.>>

Tenured professors do real work?
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The Grand Master must really be on his case!
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"Courte deare verse"
is an anagram of
AUSTERE RECOVERED
[DOES DOSE ODES] CREATURE [EVER VEER]
DECREASE TRUE [OVER ROVE]
DECREASE OVERTURE
as well as
ORDER ACUTE SEVERE
SO CREATURE VEERED
which all goes to prove...
That one should avoid anagrams that aren't at least 50% proper names.
<<But Art -- many of your "anagrams" violate that rule.>>
That's FAKE NEWS-GROUP!
<<No, it isn't, Art; I've furnished numerous examples in the past. Among
the most amusing is your delusional belief that "I kill Edward de Vere" is
an anagram of "weaves sledded silk" -- thir ir an anagsam to a csetinour
illitesate who demonrtsably cannot dirtingurh "r" fsom "s", but thore of
ur who can sead Englirh (os can secognize lettesr of the Roman alphabet)
know bettes.>>
You've furnished ONE example.
<<I have furnished *MANY* examples in the past, Art; would you like me to
consult the Grand Master's Noonedafter archive and reproduce some of your
past stupidities?>>
Sure.
Lea wrote: <<OK. I'll do so in another post.>>

Knock yourself out, Dave.
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<<The VERy few that are valid equidistant letter sequences
generally say something utterly unremarkable....>>
Then don't remark about them, Dave.
<<Well, *someone* has to teach you to count, Art!
George Mason Elementary was manifestly unsuccessful.>>
Masonic conspiracy?
<<A Masonic conspiracy to insure that you remained illiterate?>>
What does 'counting' have to do with literacy?
Lea wrote:

<<But [SIC] are rudimentary but valuable skills acquired by most
children of aVERage intelligence around the age of six or seven, Art.>>

But are?
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.
. D i d a l l t h e y c o u l d t o h i
. d e b o t h h i r a n d e k e t h e m
. [S] e l v e s f r o s h a m e B u t P h
. [E] b e w a s o f p e r s o n a g e s o
. [C] o m l y a n d s o t a l l,T h a t b
. [Y] t h e m i d d l e o f h i r n e c k
. [E] s h e o v e r p e e r d t h e m a l
. [L].S u c h c o l o u r a s a p p e a r
. [E] s i n H e a v e n b y P h e b u s b
. [R] o k e n r a y e s
.
[R.E.LEYCES.] -19
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
Lea wrote: <<I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters
-- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!>>
I'm now proud to be a Virginian but ashamed to be an American.
(Not unlike [R.E.LEE]!)
<<I hope that you're ashamed to be an American for reasons
*other than* those that actuated Robert E. Lee, Art.>>
The reasons are different but the results are the same.
Lea wrote:

<<The results are certainly similar -- both of your have [SIC]
become icons of a hopeless, insane, Lost Cause mythology.>>

"Someday, they're gonna erect a statue to me in this town."
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(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
<<But Art -- "Iohn Marston's Satire"
is an anagram of "Art's insane shit-room",
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INPNC = 3/18
Lea wrote: << the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is,
as its name conveys, idiotic.>>
Shake-speare's most perceptive characters are Fools.
<<No, Art. Dogberry is not especially perceptive.>>
Dogberry is a "self-satisfied night constable" with an inflated view of
his own importance as the leader of a group of comically bumbling police
watchmen. (Not that unlike the Grand Master.)
Lea wrote:

<<Don't bate the Grand Master, Art -- Oxfordian lunacy still has gained as little traction as eVER in intellectual circles, thanks in large part to his tireless efforts,>>

Not unlike those tireless attacks women used to
ALWAYS receive when reporting real sexual harassment.
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Lea wrote: <<Nor is Bottom.>>
Nick Bottom is a weaver by trade.
Lea wrote: <<A weaVER, Art?!>>

O, what a tangled WEBB you weaved
when first you practised to deceive!
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Lea wrote: <<You plainly have neVER read the canon, Art.>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honi_soit_qui_mal_y_pense#/media/File:Gun_-_southern_bastion_-_detail.jpg

Lea wrote: <<Are you sure that you want me to
dredge up and repost some of your past idiocies, Art?!>>

Another Dredge Repost?

Lea wrote:

<<If Flynn is indeed cooperating with the special counsel's investigation, as indications suggest, then (t)Rump may be on his way out, along with much of his inner circle.>>

One can only hope.

Lea wrote:

<<If you can land a cabinet post, you would be among the VERy few left untainted by the Russia investigation, which would place you squarely in the line of succession for the top job!>>

But what about my former friendship with Putin
stooge Peter Nockolds (a.k.a., Mickey Leaks).

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/Neuendorffer$20putin/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/-Im2l5hYIh8/rlB3-5U5AgAJ
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Lea wrote: <<You call a newsgroup that is 95% idiotic crap
(and 95% *endlessly repeated idiotic crap at that!) alive, Art?>>
If it were dead the Grand Master wouldn't be so obsessed with it.
Lea wrote:

<<The Grand Master is anything but obsessed with h.l.a.s., Art; it is merely a small, out-of-the-way corner in the vast stage upon which he plays.>>

. The Grand Master is a poor player
. That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
. And then is heard no more: your's is a tale
. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
. Signifying nothing.

Lea wrote:

<<HoweVER, *nothing* -- not even a moribund newsgroup that has become little more than a dumpster for the endlessly repeated crackpot cryptography and moronic nonsense of an illiterate nutcase -- escapes his unceasing vigilance.>>

The Grand Master: the unceasing vigilante?
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Lea wrote: << And Oxfraud, like the Forest, still affords
the latter's founding desideratum: "More matter, with less Art".
But, Dave,...I have posted at Oxfraud already.
<<Really, Art?! Could you send me the link to your post?
I must have missed your valuable contribution.>>
You shouldn't have much trouble finding it, Dave.
Lea wrote:

<<Then you cannot produce the link, Art? That's what I expected.>>

http://oxfraud.com/OX-cipher

Lea wrote:

<<As I said, *nothing* escapes the Grand Master's unceasing vigilance -- if you had posted in Oxfraud, I would almost surely have been notified.>>

The Grand Master: the unceasing vigilante?
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. A s s
. [L] o u
. [E] n l
. [Y],a s
. [C] a r
. [E] l e
. [S] s e
.
[LEYCES] 3 : Prob. at end ~ 1 in 1990
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
Masonic nonsense?
Lea wrote: <<No, Art; *moronic* nonsense.
To paraphrase Wodehouse, no self-respecting Mason
would be caught dead in a ditch with it!>>
Do you know any self-respecting Masons, Dave?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art! The Grand Master
enjoys eVERyone's respect, including his own.>>
The Grand Master can 'get Brent'
Lea wrote:

<<What does Brent have to do with this discussion, Art?
Why on earth would the Grand Master want to "get" him?>>

If Brent isn't the Grand Master, himself,
then he's at least your immediate superior.
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AFAIC [sic].
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/AFAIC

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WOW! When Liddle Marco was here
Dave wouldn't even bother with a single rereply.
Lea wrote: <<I am generally busy doing real work, Art.>>
Tenured professors do real work?
Of course, Art! In fact, one's workload tends to increase after tenure. If you had been literate enough to have been admitted to Lehigh, you would perhaps have some inkling of what academic life is like.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
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That one should avoid anagrams that aren't at least 50% proper names.
<<But Art -- many of your "anagrams" violate that rule.>>
That's FAKE NEWS-GROUP!
<<No, it isn't, Art; I've furnished numerous examples in the past. Among
the most amusing is your delusional belief that "I kill Edward de Vere" is
an anagram of "weaves sledded silk" -- thir ir an anagsam to a csetinour
illitesate who demonrtsably cannot dirtingurh "r" fsom "s", but thore of
ur who can sead Englirh (os can secognize lettesr of the Roman alphabet)
know bettes.>>
You've furnished ONE example.
<<I have furnished *MANY* examples in the past, Art; would you like me to
consult the Grand Master's Noonedafter archive and reproduce some of your
past stupidities?>>
Sure.
Lea wrote: <<OK. I'll do so in another post.>>
Knock yourself out, Dave.
I won't have to work VERy hard, Art. HoweVER, since I'm busy doing real work, I may not get to it for a while.
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<<The VERy few that are valid equidistant letter sequences
generally say something utterly unremarkable....>>
Then don't remark about them, Dave.
<<Well, *someone* has to teach you to count, Art!
George Mason Elementary was manifestly unsuccessful.>>
Masonic conspiracy?
<<A Masonic conspiracy to insure that you remained illiterate?>>
What does 'counting' have to do with literacy?
<<But [SIC] are rudimentary but valuable skills acquired by most
children of aVERage intelligence around the age of six or seven, Art.>>
But are?
That was a typo, Art; I inadVERtently omitted the word "both". Thank you for noticing and correcting it.
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___ <= 19 =>
.
. D i d a l l t h e y c o u l d t o h i
. d e b o t h h i r a n d e k e t h e m
. [S] e l v e s f r o s h a m e B u t P h
. [E] b e w a s o f p e r s o n a g e s o
. [C] o m l y a n d s o t a l l,T h a t b
. [Y] t h e m i d d l e o f h i r n e c k
. [E] s h e o v e r p e e r d t h e m a l
. [L].S u c h c o l o u r a s a p p e a r
. [E] s i n H e a v e n b y P h e b u s b
. [R] o k e n r a y e s
.
[R.E.LEYCES.] -19
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
It takes one to know one.
Lea wrote: <<I'm sure that you know some (t)Rump voters
-- but I certainly hope that you were not among them!>>
I'm now proud to be a Virginian but ashamed to be an American.
(Not unlike [R.E.LEE]!)
<<I hope that you're ashamed to be an American for reasons
*other than* those that actuated Robert E. Lee, Art.>>
The reasons are different but the results are the same.
<<The results are certainly similar -- both of your have [SIC]
become icons of a hopeless, insane, Lost Cause mythology.>>
That should read "both of you". Thank you for correcting it, Art.
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"Someday, they're gonna erect a statue to me in this town."
You're no longer content merely to harangue a statue of George Mason, Art? You now want a statue of yourself haranguing a statue of George Mason?!
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(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
<<But Art -- "Iohn Marston's Satire"
is an anagram of "Art's insane shit-room",
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INPNC = 3/18
Lea wrote: << the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is,
as its name conveys, idiotic.>>
Shake-speare's most perceptive characters are Fools.
<<No, Art. Dogberry is not especially perceptive.>>
Dogberry is a "self-satisfied night constable" with an inflated view of
his own importance as the leader of a group of comically bumbling police
watchmen. (Not that unlike the Grand Master.)
<<Don't bate the Grand Master, Art -- Oxfordian lunacy still has gained as
little traction as eVER in intellectual circles, thanks in large part to
his tireless efforts,>>
Not unlike those tireless attacks women used to
ALWAYS receive when reporting real sexual harassment.
Huh? There is no comparison whateVER, Art.
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Lea wrote: <<Nor is Bottom.>>
Nick Bottom is a weaver by trade.
Lea wrote: <<A weaVER, Art?!>>
O, what a tangled WEBB you weaved [sic]
Is English your native tongue, Art?
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when first you practised to deceive!
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Lea wrote: <<You plainly have neVER read the canon, Art.>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honi_soit_qui_mal_y_pense#/media/File:Gun_-
_southern_bastion_-_detail.jpg
Lea wrote: <<Are you sure that you want me to
dredge up and repost some of your past idiocies, Art?!>>
Another Dredge Repost?
Excellent, Art! You're beginning to be amusing again after a long period of repetitive idiotic crap.
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<<If Flynn is indeed cooperating with the special counsel's investigation,
as indications suggest, then (t)Rump may be on his way out, along with much
of his inner circle.>>
One can only hope.
<<If you can land a cabinet post, you would be among the VERy few left
untainted by the Russia investigation, which would place you squarely in
the line of succession for the top job!>>
But what about my former friendship with Putin
stooge Peter Nockolds (a.k.a., Mickey Leaks).
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/Neuendorffer$20putin/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/-Im2l5hYIh8/rlB3-5U5AgAJ
What makes you think (usual disclaimer) that he's a "Putin stooge", Art?
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Lea wrote: <<You call a newsgroup that is 95% idiotic crap
(and 95% *endlessly repeated idiotic crap at that!) alive, Art?>>
If it were dead the Grand Master wouldn't be so obsessed with it.
<<The Grand Master is anything but obsessed with h.l.a.s., Art; it is
merely a small, out-of-the-way corner in the vast stage upon which he
plays.>>
. The Grand Master is a poor player
. That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
. And then is heard no more: your's [sic]
Is English your native tongue, Art?
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is a tale
. Told by an idiot,
Absolutely, Art! The tale of Masonic conspiracies in Shakespeare is told by you and you alone -- even your Oxfordian coreligionists wouldn't be caught dead in a ditch with it!
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full of sound and fury,
...and endless, idiotic repetition -- oVER and oVER and oVER and oVER...
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. Signifying nothing.
Well, nothing that makes any sense.
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<<HoweVER, *nothing* -- not even a moribund newsgroup that has become
little more than a dumpster for the endlessly repeated crackpot cryptography
and moronic nonsense of an illiterate nutcase -- escapes his unceasing
vigilance.>>
The Grand Master: the unceasing vigilante?
He sees all, Art.
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Lea wrote: << And Oxfraud, like the Forest, still affords
the latter's founding desideratum: "More matter, with less Art".
But, Dave,...I have posted at Oxfraud already.
<<Really, Art?! Could you send me the link to your post?
I must have missed your valuable contribution.>>
You shouldn't have much trouble finding it, Dave.
<<Then you cannot produce the link, Art? That's what I expected.>>
http://oxfraud.com/OX-cipher
But Art -- that submission is from the member who styles himself or herself as alfa-16, not from Noonedafter, or even Neufer. Moreover, the poster self-identifies as a Shakespearean, not as an Oxfordian nut-job.

You really *do* have trouble with authorship attributions, don't you, Art? But such difficulties are merely the price paid for not having paid attention at George Mason Elementary and consequently neVER having learned to read English -- or any other natural language, for that matter.
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<<As I said, *nothing* escapes the Grand Master's unceasing vigilance -- if
you had posted in Oxfraud, I would almost surely have been notified.>>
The Grand Master: the unceasing vigilante?
Nothing escapes his notice, Art -- his network of agents scours eVERything.
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. A s s
. [L] o u
. [E] n l
. [Y],a s
. [C] a r
. [E] l e
. [S] s e
.
[LEYCES] 3 : Prob. at end ~ 1 in 1990
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
Masonic nonsense?
Lea wrote: <<No, Art; *moronic* nonsense.
To paraphrase Wodehouse, no self-respecting Mason
would be caught dead in a ditch with it!>>
Do you know any self-respecting Masons, Dave?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art! The Grand Master
enjoys eVERyone's respect, including his own.>>
The Grand Master can 'get Brent'
<<What does Brent have to do with this discussion, Art?
Why on earth would the Grand Master want to "get" him?>>
If Brent isn't the Grand Master, himself,
then he's at least your immediate superior.
No, he isn't, Art. As far as I know, he is not even a Mason. Like myself, he is merely an occasional newsgroup reader who, amused by your trolling personae, as am I, comments entertainingly upon your idiocies from time to time.

Your conspiracy theories are even loonier than (t)Rump's, Art!
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AFAIC [sic].
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/AFAIC
But that acronym is inapplicable here, Art. A much better interpretation would be "Art Farcically Adduces Idiotic Crap".
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WOW! When Liddle Marco was here
Dave wouldn't even bother with a single rereply.
Lea wrote: <<I am generally busy doing real work, Art.>>
Tenured professors do real work?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art!
In fact, one's workload tends to increase after tenure.>>

But it ain't 'real' work.
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That one should avoid anagrams that aren't at least 50% proper names.
<<But Art -- many of your "anagrams" violate that rule.>>
That's FAKE NEWS-GROUP!
<<No, it isn't, Art; I've furnished numerous examples in the past. Among
the most amusing is your delusional belief that "I kill Edward de Vere" is
an anagram of "weaves sledded silk" -- thir ir an anagsam to a csetinour
illitesate who demonrtsably cannot dirtingurh "r" fsom "s", but thore of
ur who can sead Englirh (os can secognize lettesr of the Roman alphabet)
know bettes.>>
You've furnished ONE example.
<<I have furnished *MANY* examples in the past, Art; would you like me to
consult the Grand Master's Noonedafter archive and reproduce some of your
past stupidities?>>
Neufer wrote: Sure.
Lea wrote: <<OK. I'll do so in another post.>>
Knock yourself out, Dave.
Lea wrote: <<I won't have to work VERy hard, Art.
HoweVER, since I'm busy doing real work,
I may not get to it for a while.>>

Frankly, I don't give a damn, Dave.
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<<The VERy few that are valid equidistant letter sequences
generally say something utterly unremarkable....>>
Then don't remark about them, Dave.
<<Well, *someone* has to teach you to count, Art!
George Mason Elementary was manifestly unsuccessful.>>
Masonic conspiracy?
<<A Masonic conspiracy to insure that you remained illiterate?>>
What does 'counting' have to do with literacy?
<<But [SIC] are rudimentary but valuable skills acquired by most
children of aVERage intelligence around the age of six or seven, Art.>>
Neufer wrote: But are?

Lea wrote: <<That was a typo, Art;
I inadVERtently omitted the word "both".>>

Now that script writing has become obsolete typing is
a rudimentary but valuable skills acquired by most children
of aVERage intelligence around the age of six or seven, Dave.
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The reasons are different but the results are the same.
<<The results are certainly similar -- both of your have [SIC]
become icons of a hopeless, insane, Lost Cause mythology.>>
Lea wrote: <<That should read "both of you".
Thank you for correcting it, Art.>>

It's a dirty job but someone has to do it.
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"Someday, they're gonna erect a statue to me in this town."
Lea wrote:

<<You're no longer content merely to harangue a statue of George Mason, Art?
You now want a statue of yourself haranguing a statue of George Mason?!>>

A statue of myself sitting on Traveller would be just fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee_Boyhood_Home
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(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
<<But Art -- "Iohn Marston's Satire"
is an anagram of "Art's insane shit-room",
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INPNC = 3/18
Lea wrote: << the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is,
as its name conveys, idiotic.>>
Shake-speare's most perceptive characters are Fools.
<<No, Art. Dogberry is not especially perceptive.>>
Dogberry is a "self-satisfied night constable" with an inflated view of
his own importance as the leader of a group of comically bumbling police
watchmen. (Not that unlike the Grand Master.)
<<Don't bate the Grand Master, Art -- Oxfordian lunacy still has gained as
little traction as eVER in intellectual circles, thanks in large part to
his tireless efforts,>>
Not unlike those tireless attacks women used to
ALWAYS receive when reporting real sexual harassment.
Lea wrote: <<There is no comparison whateVER, Art.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomorphism

<<Two objects are said to be canonically isomorphic
if there is a canonical isomorphism between them.>>
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Lea wrote: <<Nor is Bottom.>>
Nick Bottom is a weaver by trade.
Lea wrote: <<A weaVER, Art?!>>
O, what a tangled WEBB you weaved [sic]
when first you practised to deceive!
Lea wrote: <<Is English your native tongue, Art?>>
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http://grammarist.com/usage/weaved-wove-woven/

<<The verb weave is usually inflected wove in the past tense and woven in the perfect-tense and past-participial forms. But weaved is more common where weave means to move in and out or sway from side to side.>>
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Lea wrote: <<You plainly have neVER read the canon, Art.>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honi_soit_qui_mal_y_pense#/media/File:Gun_-
_southern_bastion_-_detail.jpg
Lea wrote: <<Are you sure that you want me to
dredge up and repost some of your past idiocies, Art?!>>
Another Dredge Repost?
Lea wrote: <<Excellent, Art!>>
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<<If Flynn is indeed cooperating with the special counsel's investigation,
as indications suggest, then (t)Rump may be on his way out, along with much
of his inner circle.>>
One can only hope.
<<If you can land a cabinet post, you would be among the VERy few left
untainted by the Russia investigation, which would place you squarely in
the line of succession for the top job!>>
But what about my former friendship with Putin
stooge Peter Nockolds (a.k.a., Mickey Leaks).
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/Neuendorffer$20putin/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/-Im2l5hYIh8/rlB3-5U5AgAJ
Lea wrote: <<What makes you think that he's a "Putin stooge", Art?>>

It became intuitively obvious to the most casual
observer after reading his private emails to me.
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Lea wrote: <<You call a newsgroup that is 95% idiotic crap
(and 95% *endlessly repeated idiotic crap at that!) alive, Art?>>
If it were dead the Grand Master wouldn't be so obsessed with it.
<<The Grand Master is anything but obsessed with h.l.a.s., Art; it is
merely a small, out-of-the-way corner in the vast stage upon which he
plays.>>
. The Grand Master is a poor player
. That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
. And then is heard no more: yours is a tale
. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
. Signifying nothing.
Lea wrote: <<Well, nothing that makes any sense.>>

Indeed!
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<<HoweVER, *nothing* -- not even a moribund newsgroup that has become
little more than a dumpster for the endlessly repeated crackpot cryptography
and moronic nonsense of an illiterate nutcase -- escapes his unceasing
vigilance.>>
The Grand Master: the unceasing vigilante?
Lea wrote: <<He sees all, Art.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigilante

<<A vigilante is a civilian or organization acting in a law enforcement capacity (or in the pursuit of self-perceived justice) without legal authority. During medieval times, punishment of felons was sometimes exercised by such secret societies.>>
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Lea wrote: << And Oxfraud, like the Forest, still affords
the latter's founding desideratum: "More matter, with less Art".
But, Dave,...I have posted at Oxfraud already.
<<Really, Art?! Could you send me the link to your post?
I must have missed your valuable contribution.>>
You shouldn't have much trouble finding it, Dave.
<<Then you cannot produce the link, Art? That's what I expected.>>
http://oxfraud.com/OX-cipher
Lea wrote:

<<But Art -- that submission is from the member who styles himself
or herself as alfa-16, not from Noonedafter, or even Neufer.>>

Check out the comments:
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Arthur Neuendorffer • 2 years ago

You left out the "H" in "WIT WHOME"

It should read:

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Sicinius Mod Arthur Neuendorffer • 2 years ago

Thanks.
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<<As I said, *nothing* escapes the Grand Master's unceasing vigilance --
if you had posted in Oxfraud, I would almost surely have been notified.>>
The Grand Master: the unceasing vigilante?
Lea wrote: <<Nothing escapes his notice, Art --
his network of agents scours eVERything.>>

His network of agents sours eVERything.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigilante

<<A vigilante is a civilian or organization acting in a law enforcement capacity (or in the pursuit of self-perceived justice) without legal authority. During medieval times, punishment of felons was sometimes exercised by such secret societies.>>
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. A s s
. [L] o u
. [E] n l
. [Y],a s
. [C] a r
. [E] l e
. [S] s e
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
Masonic nonsense?
Lea wrote: <<No, Art; *moronic* nonsense.
To paraphrase Wodehouse, no self-respecting Mason
would be caught dead in a ditch with it!>>
Do you know any self-respecting Masons, Dave?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art! The Grand Master
enjoys eVERyone's respect, including his own.>>
The Grand Master can 'get Brent'
<<What does Brent have to do with this discussion, Art?
Why on earth would the Grand Master want to "get" him?>>
If Brent isn't the Grand Master, himself,
then he's at least your immediate superior.
Lea wrote:

<<No, he isn't, Art. As far as I know, he is not even a Mason.

Like myself, he is merely an occasional newsgroup reader who, amused by your trolling personae, as am I, comments entertainingly upon your idiocies from time to time.>>

I certainly agree that Brent is much "like yourself."

Art Neuendorffer
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WOW! When Liddle Marco was here
Dave wouldn't even bother with a single rereply [sic].
Is English your native tongue, Art?
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Lea wrote: <<I am generally busy doing real work, Art.>>
Tenured professors do real work?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art!
In fact, one's workload tends to increase after tenure.>>
But it ain't 'real' work.
Plainly, you have neVER had to chair committees, give oral exams, plan research projects, etc., Art.
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"Someday, they're gonna erect a statue to me in this town."
<<You're no longer content merely to harangue a statue of George Mason, Art?
You now want a statue of yourself haranguing a statue of George Mason?!>>
A statue of myself sitting on Traveller would be just fine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee_Boyhood_Home
Don't hold your breath, Art -- have you eVER seen a statue of a horse bearing a horse's hindquarters?
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(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
<<But Art -- "Iohn Marston's Satire"
is an anagram of "Art's insane shit-room",
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INPNC = 3/18
Lea wrote: << the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is,
as its name conveys, idiotic.>>
Shake-speare's most perceptive characters are Fools.
<<No, Art. Dogberry is not especially perceptive.>>
Dogberry is a "self-satisfied night constable" with an inflated view of
his own importance as the leader of a group of comically bumbling police
watchmen. (Not that unlike the Grand Master.)
<<Don't bate the Grand Master, Art -- Oxfordian lunacy still has gained as
little traction as eVER in intellectual circles, thanks in large part to
his tireless efforts,>>
Not unlike those tireless attacks women used to
ALWAYS receive when reporting real sexual harassment.
Lea wrote: <<There is no comparison whateVER, Art.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomorphism
<<Two objects are said to be canonically isomorphic
if there is a canonical isomorphism between them.>>
You just proved my point, Art -- since the attacks on women who report harassment have *nothing whateVER* to do with the Shakespeare canon, any isomorphism cannot be canonical.
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Lea wrote: <<Nor is Bottom.>>
Nick Bottom is a weaver by trade.
Lea wrote: <<A weaVER, Art?!>>
O, what a tangled WEBB you weaved [sic]
when first you practised to deceive!
Lea wrote: <<Is English your native tongue, Art?>>
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http://grammarist.com/usage/weaved-wove-woven/
<<The verb weave is usually inflected wove in the past tense and woven in
the perfect-tense and past-participial forms. But weaved is more common
where weave means to move in and out or sway from side to side.>>
But we were not talking about that sense of the VERb, Art! Again, you just proved my point. Besides, Art, I would neVER deceive you -- you yourself observed that we do not lie, we merely equivocate.
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Lea wrote: <<You plainly have neVER read the canon, Art.>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honi_soit_qui_mal_y_pense#/media/File:Gun_-
_southern_bastion_-_detail.jpg
No, Art; the canon is in English, with a little primitive French here and there for comic effect. But you can no more tell English from French than you can tell Russian from Ossetian -- or for that matter, Dutch from Danish, or German from Spanish!
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Lea wrote: <<Are you sure that you want me to
dredge up and repost some of your past idiocies, Art?!>>
Another Dredge Repost?
Lea wrote: <<Excellent, Art!>>
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<<If Flynn is indeed cooperating with the special counsel's investigation,
as indications suggest, then (t)Rump may be on his way out, along with much
of his inner circle.>>
One can only hope.
<<If you can land a cabinet post, you would be among the VERy few left
untainted by the Russia investigation, which would place you squarely in
the line of succession for the top job!>>
But what about my former friendship with Putin
stooge Peter Nockolds (a.k.a., Mickey Leaks).
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/Neuendorffer$20putin/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/-Im2l5hYIh8/rlB3-5U5AgAJ
Lea wrote: <<What makes you think that he's a "Putin stooge", Art?>>
It became intuitively obvious to the most casual
observer after reading his private emails to me.
But what in his private emails made you think (usual disclaimer) that he is a "Putin stooge", Art? (Ask him what he thinks of Eduard Limonov.)
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Lea wrote: <<You call a newsgroup that is 95% idiotic crap
(and 95% *endlessly repeated idiotic crap at that!) alive, Art?>>
If it were dead the Grand Master wouldn't be so obsessed with it.
<<The Grand Master is anything but obsessed with h.l.a.s., Art; it is
merely a small, out-of-the-way corner in the vast stage upon which he
plays.>>
. The Grand Master is a poor player
. That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
. And then is heard no more: yours is a tale
. Told by an idiot,
As I already noted, Art, the tale of the Masonic conspiracy in Shakespeare is indeed told by an idiot -- you.
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full of sound and fury,
. Signifying nothing.
Lea wrote: <<Well, nothing that makes any sense.>>
Indeed!
Graciously conceded, Art!
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<<HoweVER, *nothing* -- not even a moribund newsgroup that has become
little more than a dumpster for the endlessly repeated crackpot cryptography
and moronic nonsense of an illiterate nutcase -- escapes his unceasing
vigilance.>>
The Grand Master: the unceasing vigilante?
Lea wrote: <<He sees all, Art.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigilante
<<A vigilante is a civilian or organization acting in a law enforcement
capacity (or in the pursuit of self-perceived justice) without legal
authority. During medieval times, punishment of felons was sometimes
exercised by such secret societies.>>
Just be glad that he hasn't summoned you to a reckoning before the Vehmgericht, Art.
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Lea wrote: << And Oxfraud, like the Forest, still affords
the latter's founding desideratum: "More matter, with less Art".
But, Dave,...I have posted at Oxfraud already.
<<Really, Art?! Could you send me the link to your post?
I must have missed your valuable contribution.>>
You shouldn't have much trouble finding it, Dave.
<<Then you cannot produce the link, Art? That's what I expected.>>
http://oxfraud.com/OX-cipher
<<But Art -- that submission is from the member who styles himself
or herself as alfa-16, not from Noonedafter, or even Neufer.>>
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Arthur Neuendorffer • 2 years ago
You left out the "H" in "WIT WHOME"
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Sicinius Mod Arthur Neuendorffer • 2 years ago
Thanks.
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. A s s
. [L] o u
. [E] n l
. [Y],a s
. [C] a r
. [E] l e
. [S] s e
.
[LEYCES] 3 : Prob. at end ~ 1 in 1990
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
Masonic nonsense?
Lea wrote: <<No, Art; *moronic* nonsense.
To paraphrase Wodehouse, no self-respecting Mason
would be caught dead in a ditch with it!>>
Do you know any self-respecting Masons, Dave?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art! The Grand Master
enjoys eVERyone's respect, including his own.>>
The Grand Master can 'get Brent'
<<What does Brent have to do with this discussion, Art?
Why on earth would the Grand Master want to "get" him?>>
If Brent isn't the Grand Master, himself,
then he's at least your immediate superior.
<<No, he isn't, Art. As far as I know, he is not even a Mason.
Like myself, he is merely an occasional newsgroup reader who, amused by
your trolling personae, as am I, comments entertainingly upon your idiocies
from time to time.>>
I certainly agree that Brent is much "like yourself."
Thank you, Art -- Brent is interesting, reasonable, and cleVER.
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Lea wrote: <<I am generally busy doing real work, Art.>>
Tenured professors do real work?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art!
In fact, one's workload tends to increase after tenure.>>
But it ain't 'real' work.
Lea wrote:

<<Plainly, you have neVER had to chair committees,
give oral exams, plan research projects, etc., Art.>>

Sounds like you really LOVE your job, Dave.
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"Someday, they're gonna erect a statue to me in this town."
<<You're no longer content merely to harangue a statue of George Mason, Art?
You now want a statue of yourself haranguing a statue of George Mason?!>>
A statue of myself sitting on Traveller would be just fine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee_Boyhood_Home
Lea wrote: <<Don't hold your breath, Art.>>

Then how can I start posing for my statue?
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Auntie Em: Well, don't start posing for it now.
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(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
<<But Art -- "Iohn Marston's Satire"
is an anagram of "Art's insane shit-room",
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INPNC = 3/18
Lea wrote: << the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is,
as its name conveys, idiotic.>>
Shake-speare's most perceptive characters are Fools.
<<No, Art. Dogberry is not especially perceptive.>>
Dogberry is a "self-satisfied night constable" with an inflated view of
his own importance as the leader of a group of comically bumbling police
watchmen. (Not that unlike the Grand Master.)
<<Don't bate the Grand Master, Art -- Oxfordian lunacy still has gained as
little traction as eVER in intellectual circles, thanks in large part to
his tireless efforts,>>
Not unlike those tireless attacks women used to
ALWAYS receive when reporting real sexual harassment.
Lea wrote: <<There is no comparison whateVER, Art.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomorphism
<<Two objects are said to be canonically isomorphic
if there is a canonical isomorphism between them.>>
Lea wrote:

<<You just proved my point, Art -- since the attacks on women who report
harassment have *nothing whateVER* to do with the Shakespeare canon...>>

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus_Andronicus#Synopsis

<<Aaron persuades Demetrius and Chiron to kill Bassianus, so they may rape Lavinia. They do so, throwing Bassianus's body into a pit and dragging Lavinia deep into the forest before violently raping her. To keep her from revealing what has happened, they cut out her tongue and cut off her hands. Later, Lavinia writes the names of her attackers in the dirt, using a stick held with her mouth and between her mutilated arms.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophelia

<<Hamlet sits with Ophelia and makes sexually suggestive remarks; he also says that woman's love is brief. At Ophelia's next appearance, she talks in riddles and rhymes, and sings some "mad" and bawdy songs about death and a maiden losing her virginity.>>
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Lea wrote: <<Nor is Bottom.>>
Nick Bottom is a weaver by trade.
Lea wrote: <<A weaVER, Art?!>>
O, what a tangled WEBB you weaved [sic]
when first you practised to deceive!
Lea wrote: <<Is English your native tongue, Art?>>
------------------------------------------------
http://grammarist.com/usage/weaved-wove-woven/
<<The verb weave is usually inflected wove in the past tense and woven in
the perfect-tense and past-participial forms. But weaved is more common
where weave means to move in and out or sway from side to side.>>
Lea wrote:

<<But we were not talking about that sense of the VERb, Art!
I would neVER deceive you -- .>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Arquette

<<Clifford Charles Arquette (December 27, 1905 – September 23, 1974) was an American actor & comedian, famous for his TV role as "Charley Weaver, the wild old man from Mount Idy". This characterization proved so popular that Arquette almost never again appeared in public as himself, but nearly always as Charley Weaver, complete with his squashed hat, little round glasses, rumpled shirt, broad tie, baggy pants, and suspenders.>>
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Lea wrote: <<Are you sure that you want me to
dredge up and repost some of your past idiocies, Art?!>>
Another Dredge Repost?
Lea wrote: <<Excellent, Art!>>
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<<If Flynn is indeed cooperating with the special counsel's investigation,
as indications suggest, then (t)Rump may be on his way out, along with much
of his inner circle.>>
One can only hope.
<<If you can land a cabinet post, you would be among the VERy few left
untainted by the Russia investigation, which would place you squarely in
the line of succession for the top job!>>
But what about my former friendship with Putin
stooge Peter Nockolds (a.k.a., Mickey Leaks).
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/Neuendorffer$20putin/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/-Im2l5hYIh8/rlB3-5U5AgAJ
Lea wrote: <<What makes you think that he's a "Putin stooge", Art?>>
It became intuitively obvious to the most casual
observer after reading his private emails to me.
Lea wrote:

<<But what in his private emails made you think that he is a
"Putin stooge", Art? (Ask him what he thinks of Eduard Limonov.)>>

I'm not about to post private emails, Dave, and we no longer converse.
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Lea wrote: <<You call a newsgroup that is 95% idiotic crap
(and 95% *endlessly repeated idiotic crap at that!) alive, Art?>>
If it were dead the Grand Master wouldn't be so obsessed with it.
<<The Grand Master is anything but obsessed with h.l.a.s., Art;
it is merely a small, out-of-the-way corner in the vast stage
upon which he plays.>>
. The Grand Master is a poor player
. That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
. And then is heard no more: yours is a tale
. Told by an idiot,
Lea wrote:

<<the tale of the Masonic conspiracy in
Shakespeare is indeed told by an idiot -- you.>>
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. Sonnet 144
.
. Yet this shal I ne(R)e know b(U)t liue i(N) doubt,
. T(I)ll my ba(D) angel f(I)re my go(O)d one ou(T).
...................................................
. <= 7 =>
.
. Y e t t h i s
. s h a l I n e
. (R) e k n o w b
. (U) t l i v e i
. (N) d o u b t, T
. (I) l l m y b a
. (D) a n g e l f
. (I) r e m y g o
. (O) d o n e o u
. (T).
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<<HoweVER, *nothing* -- not even a moribund newsgroup that has become
little more than a dumpster for the endlessly repeated crackpot cryptography
and moronic nonsense of an illiterate nutcase -- escapes his unceasing
vigilance.>>
The Grand Master: the unceasing vigilante?
Lea wrote: <<He sees all, Art.>>
---------------------------------------------
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigilante
<<A vigilante is a civilian or organization acting in a law enforcement
capacity (or in the pursuit of self-perceived justice) without legal
authority. During medieval times, punishment of felons was sometimes
exercised by such secret societies.>>
Lea wrote:

<<Just be glad that he hasn't summoned you to a reckoning before the Vehmgericht, Art.>>

A great reckoning in a little room?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehmic_court

<<The Vehmgericht was a "proto-vigilante" tribunal system active in Germany during the later Middle Ages, based on a fraternal organisation of lay judges called the Freischöffen. The original seat of the Vehmgericht was Dortmund, in a square between two linden trees, one of which was known as the Femelinde. After the execution of a death sentence, the corpse could be hung on a tree to advertise the fact and deter others.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Between_Two_Ferns_with_Zach_Galifianakis

<<Between Two Ferns with Zach Galifianakis is a talk show which last several minutes, in which Galifianakis and the celebrity guests trade barbs and insults while sitting between two potted ferns. Galifianakis maintains a very awkward and often antagonistic demeanor with his guests, asking them bizarre, inappropriate or insulting questions mixed with offhand non-sequiturs. The guests' responses are mostly improvised, despite pre-interviews.>>
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Lea wrote: << And Oxfraud, like the Forest, still affords
the latter's founding desideratum: "More matter, with less Art".
But, Dave,...I have posted at Oxfraud already.
<<Really, Art?! Could you send me the link to your post?
I must have missed your valuable contribution.>>
You shouldn't have much trouble finding it, Dave.
<<Then you cannot produce the link, Art? That's what I expected.>>
http://oxfraud.com/OX-cipher
<<But Art -- that submission is from the member who styles himself
or herself as alfa-16, not from Noonedafter, or even Neufer.>>
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Arthur Neuendorffer • 2 years ago
You left out the "H" in "WIT WHOME"
STAYPASSENGERWHYGOESTTHOVBYSOFASTREADIFTHOVCANSTWHOMENVIOVSDEATHHATHPLASTWITHINTHISMONVMENTSHAKSPEAREWITHWHOMEQVICKNATVREDIDEWHOSENAMEDOTHDECKYSTOMBEFARMORETHENCOSTSIEHALLYTHEHATHWRITTLEAVESLIVINGARTBVTPAGETOSERVEHISWITT
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. A s s
. [L] o u
. [E] n l
. [Y],a s
. [C] a r
. [E] l e
. [S] s e
.
[LEYCES] 3 : Prob. at end ~ 1 in 1990
Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
Masonic nonsense?
Lea wrote: <<No, Art; *moronic* nonsense.
To paraphrase Wodehouse, no self-respecting Mason
would be caught dead in a ditch with it!>>
Do you know any self-respecting Masons, Dave?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art! The Grand Master
enjoys eVERyone's respect, including his own.>>
The Grand Master can 'get Brent'
<<What does Brent have to do with this discussion, Art?
Why on earth would the Grand Master want to "get" him?>>
If Brent isn't the Grand Master, himself,
then he's at least your immediate superior.
<<No, he isn't, Art. As far as I know, he is not even a Mason.
Like myself, he is merely an occasional newsgroup reader who, amused by
your trolling personae, as am I, comments entertainingly upon your idiocies
from time to time.>>
I certainly agree that Brent is much "like yourself."
Lea wrote:

<<Thank you, Art -- Brent is interesting, reasonable, and cleVER.>

I DO think of you guys as a pair of EBCDICs, Dave.

Art Neuendorffer
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Lea wrote: <<I am generally busy doing real work, Art.>>
Tenured professors do real work?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art!
In fact, one's workload tends to increase after tenure.>>
But it ain't 'real' work.
<<Plainly, you have neVER had to chair committees,
give oral exams, plan research projects, etc., Art.>>
Sounds like you really LOVE your job, Dave.
I do, Art -- but that doesn't mean that it isn't real work.
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"Someday, they're gonna erect a statue to me in this town."
<<You're no longer content merely to harangue a statue of George Mason, Art?
You now want a statue of yourself haranguing a statue of George Mason?!>>
A statue of myself sitting on Traveller would be just fine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee_Boyhood_Home
Lea wrote: <<Don't hold your breath, Art.>>
Then how can I start posing for my statue?
OK, Art; hold your breath if you like. But the likelihood of a statue of a horse being ridden by a horse's hindquarters still seems remote.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
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(end of) Satire 2 - by John Marston
<<But Art -- "Iohn Marston's Satire"
is an anagram of "Art's insane shit-room",
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INPNC = 3/18
Lea wrote: << the Idiotic Neuendorffer Proper Name Criterion is,
as its name conveys, idiotic.>>
Shake-speare's most perceptive characters are Fools.
<<No, Art. Dogberry is not especially perceptive.>>
Dogberry is a "self-satisfied night constable" with an inflated view of
his own importance as the leader of a group of comically bumbling police
watchmen. (Not that unlike the Grand Master.)
<<Don't bate the Grand Master, Art -- Oxfordian lunacy still has gained as
little traction as eVER in intellectual circles, thanks in large part to
his tireless efforts,>>
Not unlike those tireless attacks women used to
ALWAYS receive when reporting real sexual harassment.
Lea wrote: <<There is no comparison whateVER, Art.>>
-----------------------------------------------------
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomorphism
<<Two objects are said to be canonically isomorphic
if there is a canonical isomorphism between them.>>
<<You just proved my point, Art -- since the attacks on women who report
harassment have *nothing whateVER* to do with the Shakespeare canon...>>
-------------------------------------------
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus_Andronicus#Synopsis
<<Aaron persuades Demetrius and Chiron to kill Bassianus, so they may rape
Lavinia. They do so, throwing Bassianus's body into a pit and dragging
Lavinia deep into the forest before violently raping her. To keep her from
revealing what has happened, they cut out her tongue and cut off her hands.
Later, Lavinia writes the names of her attackers in the dirt, using a stick
held with her mouth and between her mutilated arms.>>
-------------------------------------------
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophelia
<<Hamlet sits with Ophelia and makes sexually suggestive remarks; he also
says that woman's love is brief. At Ophelia's next appearance, she talks in
riddles and rhymes, and sings some "mad" and bawdy songs about death and a
maiden losing her virginity.>>
You quite plainly have neVER read the canon, Art. The reason fro Ophelia's madness is made clear therein.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
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<<If Flynn is indeed cooperating with the special counsel's investigation,
as indications suggest, then (t)Rump may be on his way out, along with much
of his inner circle.>>
One can only hope.
<<If you can land a cabinet post, you would be among the VERy few left
untainted by the Russia investigation, which would place you squarely in
the line of succession for the top job!>>
But what about my former friendship with Putin
stooge Peter Nockolds (a.k.a., Mickey Leaks).
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/Neuendorffer$20putin/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/-Im2l5hYIh8/rlB3-5U5AgAJ
Lea wrote: <<What makes you think
...usual disclaimer, Art! Don't edit it out!
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that he's a "Putin stooge", Art?>>
It became intuitively obvious to the most casual
observer
In other words, you have *no evidence* that he's a "Putin stooge". The phrase "intuitively obvious to the most casual observer" is one that you habitually use when you have no evidence whateVER.
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after reading his private emails to me.
<<But what in his private emails made you think
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that he is a
"Putin stooge", Art? (Ask him what he thinks of Eduard Limonov.)>>
I'm not about to post private emails,
I'm not asking you to *post* them, Art; I'm just asking for a summary of which makes you think (usual disclaimer) that he is a "Putin stooge". If he is, that would raise the number of stooges in your colloquy to two.
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Dave, and we no longer converse.
But Art -- "converse" is an anagram of "E. Ver's con" -- INIPNC score 5/8 > 50%.
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Lea wrote: <<You call a newsgroup that is 95% idiotic crap
(and 95% *endlessly repeated idiotic crap at that!) alive, Art?>>
If it were dead the Grand Master wouldn't be so obsessed with it.
<<The Grand Master is anything but obsessed with h.l.a.s., Art;
it is merely a small, out-of-the-way corner in the vast stage
upon which he plays.>>
. The Grand Master is a poor player
. That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
. And then is heard no more: yours is a tale
. Told by an idiot,
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<<HoweVER, *nothing* -- not even a moribund newsgroup that has become
little more than a dumpster for the endlessly repeated crackpot cryptography
and moronic nonsense of an illiterate nutcase -- escapes his unceasing
vigilance.>>
The Grand Master: the unceasing vigilante?
Lea wrote: <<He sees all, Art.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigilante
<<A vigilante is a civilian or organization acting in a law enforcement
capacity (or in the pursuit of self-perceived justice) without legal
authority. During medieval times, punishment of felons was sometimes
exercised by such secret societies.>>
<<Just be glad that he hasn't summoned you to a reckoning before the Vehmgericht, Art.>>
A great reckoning in a little room?
No, Art; our tribunal had nothing whateVER to do with Marlowe's murder.

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Lea wrote: << And Oxfraud, like the Forest, still affords
the latter's founding desideratum: "More matter, with less Art".
But, Dave,...I have posted at Oxfraud already.
<<Really, Art?! Could you send me the link to your post?
I must have missed your valuable contribution.>>
You shouldn't have much trouble finding it, Dave.
<<Then you cannot produce the link, Art? That's what I expected.>>
http://oxfraud.com/OX-cipher
<<But Art -- that submission is from the member who styles himself
or herself as alfa-16, not from Noonedafter, or even Neufer.>>
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
Masonic nonsense?
Lea wrote: <<No, Art; *moronic* nonsense.
To paraphrase Wodehouse, no self-respecting Mason
would be caught dead in a ditch with it!>>
Do you know any self-respecting Masons, Dave?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art! The Grand Master
enjoys eVERyone's respect, including his own.>>
The Grand Master can 'get Brent'
<<What does Brent have to do with this discussion, Art?
Why on earth would the Grand Master want to "get" him?>>
If Brent isn't the Grand Master, himself,
then he's at least your immediate superior.
<<No, he isn't, Art. As far as I know, he is not even a Mason.
Like myself, he is merely an occasional newsgroup reader who, amused by
your trolling personae, as am I, comments entertainingly upon your idiocies
from time to time.>>
I certainly agree that Brent is much "like yourself."
<<Thank you, Art -- Brent is interesting, reasonable, and cleVER.>
I DO think ''
Don't forget the usual disclaimer, Art.
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of you guys
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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
Masonic nonsense?
Lea wrote: <<No, Art; *moronic* nonsense.
To paraphrase Wodehouse, no self-respecting Mason
would be caught dead in a ditch with it!>>
Do you know any self-respecting Masons, Dave?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art! The Grand Master
enjoys eVERyone's respect, including his own.>>
The Grand Master can 'get Brent'
<<What does Brent have to do with this discussion, Art?
Why on earth would the Grand Master want to "get" him?>>
If Brent isn't the Grand Master, himself,
then he's at least your immediate superior.
<<No, he isn't, Art. As far as I know, he is not even a Mason.
Like myself, he is merely an occasional newsgroup reader who, amused by
your trolling personae, as am I, comments entertainingly upon your idiocies
from time to time.>>
I certainly agree that Brent is much "like yourself."
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<<Thank you, Art -- Brent is interesting, reasonable, and cleVER.>

I DO think of you guys as a pair of EBCDICs, Dave.

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Lea wrote: <<...which is moronic nonsense,>>
Masonic nonsense?
Lea wrote: <<No, Art; *moronic* nonsense.
To paraphrase Wodehouse, no self-respecting Mason
would be caught dead in a ditch with it!>>
Do you know any self-respecting Masons, Dave?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art! The Grand Master
enjoys eVERyone's respect, including his own.>>
The Grand Master can 'get Brent'
<<What does Brent have to do with this discussion, Art?
Why on earth would the Grand Master want to "get" him?>>
If Brent isn't the Grand Master, himself,
then he's at least your immediate superior.
<<No, he isn't, Art. As far as I know, he is not even a Mason.
Like myself, he is merely an occasional newsgroup reader who, amused by
your trolling personae, as am I, comments entertainingly upon your idiocies
from time to time.>>
I certainly agree that Brent is much "like yourself."
<<Thank you, Art -- Brent is interesting, reasonable, and cleVER.>
I DO think
Don't forget the usual disclaimer, Art!
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of you guys as a pair of EBCDICs, Dave.
That's merely because your native tongue is COBOL, Art. No doubt Brent in turn regards you as a horse's ASCII -- not entirely without justification.
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