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Chapter 103: Measurement of The Whale's Skeleton
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. T O T H E O N L I E
. B E G E T T E R O F
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. T H E S E I N S U I
. N G S O N N E T S M
. R W H A L L H A P P
. I N E S [S] E A N D T
. H A T E [T] E R N I T
. I E P (R)[O] M I S E D
. B Y O (U)[R] E V E R L
. I V I (N)[G] P O E T W
. I S H (E) T H T H E W
. E L L W I S H I N G
. A D V E N T U R E R
. I N S E T T I N G F
. O R T H
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[GROTS] -10
(RUNE) 10 : Prob. ~ 1 in 45
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. G O O D F R E N D F O (R) I E S U S S A K E F O R B E A R
. E,T O D I G G T H E D (U) S T E N C L O A S E D H E A R E:
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. B L E S E B E Y e M A (N) Y t S P A R E S T H E S S T O N
. E S,A N D C U R S T B (E) H Y t M O V E S M Y B O N E S.

(RUNE) 28 : Prob. ~ 1 in 33
http://tinyurl.com/oqv5lmt
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http://www.mythographica.demon.co.uk
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<<Odin, the god of *FATE, POETRY & UNCHAINING*, hung upon
the *SHAKING* branches of Yggdrasil, the sacred Tree.
For *nine days* and nine nights he suffered.
Self wounded by his *SPEAR*, sacrificed by his hand, an
offering unto himself. In agony & torment he stared into the
bottomless depths of Niflheim, searching the dark pool in
silence. Finally, with great effort, he reached down before
him. His hand was chilled to the bone in the ice cold waters.
With a cry of triumph he grasped the knowledge he sought
.
. the Sacred *RUNES* , their magic and their power.
. He took the *RUNES* and he used them well.
.
He carved them upon the shaft of his *SPEAR*; he carved *RUNES*
. upon all things. By this means he obtained power over all.>>
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(S)hake-sp(E)ares
So(N)Nets.
Ne(V)Er befo(R)E ImprinTED.
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. <= 7 =>
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. (S) h a k e -s p
. (E) a r e s S o
. (N) N E t s. N e
. (V) E R b e f o
. (R) E I m p r i
. n T E D.
.
(RVNES) -7: Prob. ~ 1 in 353
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SHAKE-SPEARES
{S}ONNE{T}S.
Nev{E}r bef{O}re Im{P}rinted.
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. <= 5 =>
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. {S} O N N E
. {T} S. N e v
. {E} r b e f
. {O} r e I m
. {P} r i n t
. e d.
.
{POETS} -5 : Prob. ~ 1 in 960
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. GOOD FREND FO_{R} [ I E ] {SUS}'_S(AKE)__ FOR[BE]ARE,
___ TO DIGG THE D_{U} [ S(T)] ___ EN(CLO)ASED [HE]ARE:
__ BLESTE BE Ye MA_{N} Y(T)___ SPA[RE]S THES STONES,
__ AND CVRST BE H_{E} Y(T)___ MO[VE]S MY BONES.
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. {T H E S E I N(S)U I N G S O N N E T S}
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. M r W h a L L(H)A P P I N S S S E A N
. D t h a t E T[E]R N I T I E P R O M I
. S E D B Y O u[R]E V[E]R L I V I N G P
. O E t W I s h[E]T H(T)H E W E L L W I
. S h I N G a[d V e]N(T)u R e R I N S E
. t T I N G f o r t H(T)T
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the probability of the [de.VERE] "T cross"
assuming that the 19 letters of the 2nd line:
{THESE INSUING SONNETS}
provide the # key to the ELS array is ~ 1 in 978
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.{TERRATE (G) ITP O P U L U S M[Æ] R E T O LYMPUSHABE T}
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. STAYPAS [S] ENG [E]R W H Y G O[E](S)T T H OUBYSOFAST R
. EADIFTH [O] UCA N[S]T W H O M{E}[N]V I O USDEATHHAT H
. PLASTWI [T] HIN T H[I]S M O(N|U} M[E]N T {SHAKSPEARE} W
. ITHWHOM [E] QUI C K N[A]T(U)R{E}{D}I[D]E {WHOSENAMED} O
. THDeCKY [S] TOM B E F A[R]M O{R}{E}t H[E] NCOSTSIEHA L
. LYTHEHA [T] HWR I T T L E[A]V{E} S L I V INGARTBUTP A
. GETOSER V EHI S W I T T


(RUNES) -33 : Prob. in Roper array ~ 1 in 4930
[E.DENE] -35
[ARAISE] 35
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the probability of David Roper's: {DE} next to {E.UERE}

assuming that the 34 letters of the
2nd line: {TERRA TEGIT POPULUS MÆRET OLYMPUS HABET}

provide the # key to the ELS array is ~ 1 in 106,000
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http://tinyurl.com/px4754h

*STRANGE NEWES*, Of the intercepting certaine Letters,
and a Convoy of Verse[S], as they were g[O]ing
P(R)ivilie [T]o vict(U)all th[E] Low Cou(N)trie[S].

Unda imp(E)lli[T]ur unda.

By {T}ho. {NASHE} Gentleman.
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[Ovid: "One wave is driven forward with an other."]
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. <= 13 =>
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. *S T R A N G E N E W E S*
. O f t h e i n t e r c e
. p t i n g c e r t a i n
. e {L.}e t t e r s,a n d a
. C {O.}n v o y o f V e r s
. e [S] a s t h e y w e r e
. g [O] i n g P (R)i v i l i
. e [T]{O.}v i c t(U)a l l t
. h [E]{L.}o w C o u(N)t r i
. e [S] U n d a i m p(E)l l
. i [T] u r u n d a.B y{T}h
. o {N A S H E}
.
[SO TEST] 12 : Prob. ~ 1 in 3,000
(RUNE) 13 : Prob. ~ 1 in 21
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. To the most copious Carminist of our time,
. and famous persecutor of Priscian, his *VER(i)E*
. friend Maister Apis *LAPIS*: {T}ho. {NASHE} wisheth
. new strings to his old tawnie Purse, and all honour
[A]b[L]e [I]n[C]r[E]a[S]e of acquaintance *IN THE CELLAR*.
.
[ALICE S] 2
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[ALICE S]PENCER: Merry Wife of Lord *STRANGE* Act 1, Scene 1
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SIMPLE: *BOOK of Riddles!* why, did you not lend it to
. *[ALICE S]HORTCAKE* upon All-hallowmas last,
. a fortnight afore *MICHAELMAS* ?
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SHORTCAKE, n. An unsweetened breakfast cake shortened
. with *BUTTER* , rolled thin, and baked.
.
*SPENCER*, n. [OF. d(E.SPENS)i(ER).]
. One who has the care of the *SPENCE, or BUTTERY* .
...........................................................
. *[ALICE S]PENCER*/(a.k.a. SHORTCAKE) was the WIDOW
. of Ferdinando Stanley - Lord *STRANGE* & sister-in-law
. of William Stanley who died on *MICHAELMAS* 1642
. (Cervantes 95th birthday).
.
William Stanley (6th Earl of Derby) married Edward de Vere's
. daughter Elizabeth and fathered Lord *STRANGE*
. James Stanley Governor of the Isle of Mann.
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____ SONNET 60
.
. LIke as the waues make towards the pibled shore,
. So do our minuites hasten to [T]heir end,
. Each [C]hanging plac[E] with that whi[C]h goes before,
. [I]n sequent toi[L]e all forwards do contend.
. Natiuity once in the maine of light.
. Crawles to maturity, wherewith being crown'd,
. *CROOKED ECLIPSES* gainst his glory fight,
. [A]nd time that gaue, doth now his gift confound.
. [T]ime doth transfixe the florish set on youth,
. [A]nd delues the paralels in beauties brow,
.([F]EEDE)s on the rarities of natures *TRUTH* ,
. And nothing stands but for his sieth to mow.
. And yet to times in hope, my verse shall stand
. Praising thy *WORTH*, dispight his cruell hand.
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. S o d o o u r m i n u (I)
. t e s h a s t e n t o [T]
. h e i r e n d,E a c h [C]
. h a n g i n g p l a c [E]
. w i t h t h a t w h i [C]
. h g o e s b e f o r e,[I]
. n s e q u e n t t o i [L]
. e a l l f o r w a r d s
. d o c o n t e n d.

[T.CECIL] 12 prob. in Sonnets ~ 1 in 67
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[T]homas [CECIL]: only Garter vote for Oxford.
President of the Council of the NORTH: 1599–1603

Robert CECIL: *CROOKED ECLIPSES* ?
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http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Thomas-Cecil,-1st-Earl-of-Exeter

<<[T]homas [CECIL] (May 5, 1546 - February 8, 1623),
eldest son of William Cecil, 1st Baron Burghley,

was created 1st Earl of Exeter {May 4, 1605},

the same day his half-brother Robert Cecil,
1st Viscount Cranborne was created 1st Earl of Salisbury.>>
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. EPIGRAMS. *BOOK* I. The Author B. J.

64. To [Robert (Cecil) Earl of Salisbury. (May 4, 1608)]
Upon the Accession of the Treasurership to him.
.
NOt glad, like those that have new Hopes, or Suits,
With thy *NEW PLACE* , bring I [T]hese ear[L]y Fruits
[O]f Love, an[D] what the [G]olden Ag[E] did hold
A Treasure, Art: Condemn'd in th' Age of Gold.
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. ALICE Spencer (born May 4, 1559)
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In 1608 Thomas {GREENE} and his wife Leticia lived at
*NEW PLACE* , Stratford-on-Avon, had a son, William.
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_ <= 8 =>

. *N E W P L A C E* (May 4, 1597)
. b r i n g I[T]h
. e s e e a r[L]y
. F r u i t s[O]f
. L o v e,a n[D]w
. h a(T)t h e[G]o
. l d(E)n A g[E]d
. i d(H)o l d A T
. r e(A)s u r e,
.
[T LODGE] 8 Prob. ~ 1 in 7250
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T O T H E R I G H T H O N O R A B L E
Henrie Wriothesley, Earle of Southampton,
and Baron of Titchfield.

RIght Honourable, I know not how I shall offend in
dedicating my unpolisht lines to your Lordship, nor
how the worlde Will censure mee for choosing so
strong a proppe to support so Weake a burthen,
onelye if your Honour seeme but pleased, I ac-
count my selfe highly praised,

and vowe to take advantage of all idle houres,

TILL I [H]AV[E] HO[N]OU[R]ED [Y]OU [W.]IT[H.] SO[M]E G[r.]

-AVER LABOUR.

[HENRY W.] 3 : Prob. in V&A [HENRY W.] dedication ~ 1 in 36,000
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AVER, n. [OF. AVER domestic animal, whence LL. AVERia,
pl. cattle. cf. {AVERage}.] A WORKING OX. [Obs. or Dial. Eng.]
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Moby Dick by Herman Melville
Chapter 103: Measurement of The Whale's Skeleton

The largest, a middle one, is in width somet[H]ing less than three
fe[E]t, and in depth more tha[N] four. The smallest, whe[R]e the
spine tapers awa[Y] into the tail, is only t[W.]o inches in width,
and looks something like a white billiard-ball.

[HENRY W.] 19 : shortest skip in MD & KJV.
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[M]r. William SHAKESPE[A|R)ES
COMEDIES, HISTO[R|I)ES, & TRAGEDIES.
Publ[I|S)hed according to t[H(e)] True Originall Co<PIES>
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_________ <= 17 =>

. [M]R. W i l l i a m S (H) A K <E S> P E
. [A|R} E S C o m e d i (E) s,H <I> s t o
. [R|I} e s&T r a g e d (I) e s <P> u b l
. [I|S} h e d a c c o r (D) i n g t o t
. [H E} T r u e O r i g (I) n a l l C o
. {P I E S}.
.
[MARI.H(e)] -17 : Prob. ~ 1 in 4174
(*RISE*)
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*HIRAM* (Hebrew חירָם "high-born" = 51 = 3 x 17).
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_________ <= 17 =>

. T O T H E (O) N L I E B E G E T T(E)
. R O F T H (E) S E I N S V I N G S(O)
. N N E T S [M] R W H A L L {H} A P P I
. N E S S E [A] N D T H A T {E} T E R N
. I T I E P [R] O M I S E D {B} Y O V R
. E V E R L [I] V I N G P O {E} T W I S
. H E T H T [H (E)]W E L L W I S H I N
. G A D V E N T V R E R I N S E T T
. I N G F O R T H T T

[MARI.H(e)] -17 : Prob. ~ 1 in 10,000
{HEBE} 17
[HIRAM(e)] -17
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Ben Jonson (1623) _To the Memory of Shakespeare_
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. My Shakespeare, {RISE} ; I Will no{T LODGE} THee by
. Chaucer, or Spenser, or bid Beaumont lye
. A little further to make thee a roome ;
. Thou art a Moniment, without a tombe,
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. Sweet swan of Avon! what a fight it were
. To see thee in our waters yet appeare,
. And make those flights upon the bankes of Tha[M]es,
. That so did t[A]ke Eliza, and ou[R] James !
.{B}ut stay, [I] see th{E}e in the {He}misp{He}re
. Advanc'd, and made a Constellation there !
. Shine forth, thou StarrE Of Poets, and wi[T]h rage,
. Or inf[L]uence, chide, [O]r cheere the [D]rooping Sta[G]e;
. Which, sinc[E] thy flight fro' hence, hath mourn'd li{K(e)NIGHT},
. And despaires day, but for thy Volumes light.
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_____ <= 12 =>
.
. S w e e t s w a n o f (A)
. v o n! w h a t a {S I G}(H)
. t i t w e r e T {O} s e (E)
. t h e e i n o u {R} w a (T)
. e r s y e t a p p e a r
. e, A n d m a k e t h o s
. e f l i g h t s u p o n
. t {H e B} a n k e {S} o f T
. <H> a [M] e} s, T h a {T} s o d
. <I> d t [A] k e E l {I} z a, a
. <N> d o u [R] J a m {E} s! B u
. <T> s t a y [I] s e e t h e
. (E) i n t h e {H e} m i s p
. {H e} r e A d v a n c' d, a
. n d m a d e a C o n s t
. e l l a t i o n t h e r
. e! S h i n e f o r t h, t
. h o u S t a r r e o f P
. o e t s, a n d w i [T] h r
. a g e, O r i n f [L] u {E} n
. c e, c h i d e,[O] r {C} h e
. e r e t h e [D] r {O} o p i
. n {G} S (T) a [G] e; W h i c h,
. s {I} n c [E] t h y f l i g
. h t f r o'(H) e n c e, h a
. t h m o u r n' d l i k e
. n i g h t, A n d d e s p
. a i r e s d a y, b u t f
. o r t h y V o l u m e s
. l i g h t.
.
[{He/Be}MARI{He}] 13
{STIE} 12
<HINT> 12
{E.C.O.} 11
[T LODGE] 11 Prob. with skip < 12 ~ 1 in 600
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THE LA. [MARI]e {He}r{Be}rt COUNTESSE OF PEMBROOKE.
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Epilogue _ROSALYNDE OR, EUPHUES' GOLDEN LEGACY_

Here, gentlemen, may you see in Euphues' Golden Legacy, that such as
neglect their fathers' precepts, incur much prejudice; that division
in nature, as it is a blemish in nurture, so 'tis a breach of good
fortunes; that virtue is not measured by birth but by action; that
younger brethren, though inferior in years, yet may be superior to
honors; that concord is the sweetest conclusion, and amity betwixt
brothers more forceable than fortune. If you gather any fruits by this
Legacy, speak well of Euphues for writing it, and me for fetching it.
If you grace me with that favor, you encourage me to be
more forward; and as soon as I have overlooked my labors,
expect the Sailor's Calendar.

*T. LODGE. FINIS*
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In his Frontline essay, William Murphy
mentions *THOMAS LODGE* once and only once:
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Thirty-Six Plays in Search of an Author
by William M. Murphy, Union College Symposium 1964
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There are those, like Delia Bacon, who are afflicted with what
has been called the "Corporation Syndrome," holding that such
distinguished literature must be the work of a commi[T]tee.
Its members wou[L]d include, in additi[O]n to BACON and
Oxfor[D], Robert {GREENE}, Geor[G]e PEELE, Samuel DANI[E]L,
*THOMAS NASHE, THOMAS LODGE, Michael Drayton, and THOMAS DEKKER.*
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.
. m u s t b e t h e w o r k o f a c
. o m m i [T] t e e.I t s m e m b e r
. s w o u [L] d i n c l u d e,i n a d
. d i t i [O] n t o B a c o n a n d O
. x f o r [D] R o b e r t{G R E E N E}
. G e o r [G] e P e e l e,S a m u e l
. D a n i [E] l, T h o m a s N a s h e,
. *T H O M A S L O D G E*

[T.LODGE] 17 : Prob. stuck on *THOMAS LODGE* ~ 1 in 100,000
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<<All the known evid[E]nce points to the Stratfo[R|D} Shakespeare
as the writ[E|R} of Hamlet, Macbeth, Henry [V], {A}nd the
other plays and po[E|M}s that have kept the worl[D|A}t
the author's knees *for almost four hundred years* .>>
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________ <= 22 =>
.
. ---- A g a i n,a l l t h e k n o w n e v i
. d[E]n c e p o i n t s t o t h e S t r a t f
. o[R|D}S h a k e s p e a r e a s t h e w r i
. t[E|R}o f H a m l e t,M a c b e t h,H e n r
. y[V|A}n d t h e o t h e r p l a y s a n d p
. o[E|M}s t h a t h a v e k e p t t h e w o r
. l[D|A}t t h e a u t h o r's k n e e s f o r
. a l m o s t f o u r h u n d r e d y e a r s.
.
[DEVERE|DRAMA} 22
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It should be apparent to anyone possessing normal common sense, then, that
Shakespeare's authorship of the works is not merely "pro[B]able" or "likely,"
as some softhe[A]ds have put it, but absolutely [C]ompelling. Yet it is
common kn[O]wledge that after Delia [BACON] published her vague notions
about authorship in 1856 defenders of her unorthodox views and creators
of others multiplied like rabbits, and any reader of the modern newspaper
knows that the tribe increases every year.
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________ <= 25 =>
.
. S h a k e s p e a r e's a u t h o r s h i p o f t
. h e w o r k s i s n o t m e r e l y"p r o[B] a b l
. e"o r"l i k e l y"a s s o m e s o f t h e[A] d s h
. a v e p u t i t,b u t a b s o l u t e l y[C] o m p
. e l l i n g.Y e t i t i s c o m m o n k n[O] w l e
. d g e t h a t a f t e r D e l i a [B A C O N] p u b
. l i s h e d h e r v a g u e n o t i o n s
.
[BACON] 25 : Prob. stuck on [BACON] ~ 1 in 325
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<<H[E REVE]eals in the Sonnets... that he had latent homosexual tendencies
and that he carried on a protracted and degrading adulterous affair with a
repulsive dark-skin(N)ed lady who probably gave him a l(O)athsome disease.
In short, Shake(S)peare didn't write the plays bec(A)use we don't know enough
about hi(M) -- or because we know too much. The l(A)yman takes his choice.>>
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________ <= 27 =>
.
. a f f a i r w i t h a r e p u l s i v e d a r k-s k i
. n (N) e d l a d y w h o p r o b a b l y g a v e h i m a
. l (O) a t h s o m e d i s e a s e.I n s h o r t,S h a k
. e (S) p e a r e d i d n't w r i t e t h e p l a y s b e
. c (A) u s e w e d o n't k n o w e n o u g h a b o u t h
. i (M) o r b e c a u s e w e k n o w t o o m u c h.T h e
. l (A) y m a n t a k e s h i s c h o i c e.
.
(A MASON) -27
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Ben Jonson (1623) _To the Memory of Shakespeare_
.............................................
My Shakespeare, rise; I will no{T LODGE} thee by
Chaucer, or Spenser, or bid Beaumont lye
A little further, to make thee a roome :
Thou art a Moniment, without a TOMBe,
......................................................
Shine *FORTH*, thou Starr{E O}f Poets, and wi[T]h rage,
Or inf[L]uence, chide, [O]r cheere the [D]rooping Sta[G]e;
Which, sinc[E] thy flight fro' hence, hath mourn'd like night,
And despaires day, but for thy Volumes light.
.............................................
. <= 11 =>
.
. S h i n e*F O R T H* t
. h o u S t a r r{E O} f
. P o e t s,a n d w i [T]
. h r a g e.O r i n f [L]
. u e n c e,c h i d e,[O]
. r c h e e r e t h e [D]
. r o o p i n g S t a [G]
. e;W h i c h,s i n c [E]
. t h y f l i g h t
.
[T LODGE] 11 : Prob. at end of poem ~ 1 in 18,000
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(Shortest positive ELS [T LODGE] skip in KJV = 25)
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david kathman wrote:

<<In 1596, *THOMAS LODGE* in his *WITS MISERy* mentioned
the "ghost which cried so MISERably at the Theatre,
*like an OISTER-WIFE*, 'HAMlet, REVEnge'.">>
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Lodge

<<THOMAS LODGE (1558 - September 1625) was an English dramatist.
He was born at West HAM, the second son of Sir Thomas Lodge,
who was Lord Mayor of the City of London in 1562-1563.

Young Thomas served as *PAGE* to the Stanleys, Earls of Derby,
until approximately 1571, when he enrolled in the
Merchant-Taylors' School. From there he went on to
Trinity College, Oxford, where he took his degree in 1577.>>
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. CYNTHIA'S REVELS: ACT I SCENE I. -- Ben Jonson
.
CUPID: So Hercules might challenge priority of us both, because
. he can throw [T]he bar farther, or [L]ift more join'd st[O]ols at
. the arm's en[D], than we. If this mi[G]ht carry it, then w[E], who
. have made the whole body of divinity tremble at the twang of our bow,
. and enforc'd Saturnius himself to lay by his curled front, thunder,
. and three-fork'd fires, and put on a masking suit, too light
. for a reveller of eighteen to be seen in --
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. <= 15 =>
.
. h e c a n t h r o w [T] h e b a
. r f a r t h e r,o r [L] i f t m
. o r e j o i n'd s t [O] o l s a
. t t h e a r m's e n [D],t h a n
. w e.I f t h i s m i [G] h t c a
. r r y i t,t h e n w [E],

[T.LODGE] 15
....................................................
....................................................
. CYNTHIA'S REVELS: ACT IV SCENE I
.
AMORPHUS: As that (I must mourningly say)
. is the only fault of my fortune, that, as it hath ever been my hap
. to be sued to, by all la[D]ies and beauties, wh[E]re I have come;
. so I ne[V]er yet sojourn'd or r[E]sted in that place o[R] part of
. the world, wh[E]re some high-born, admirable, fair feature died
. not for my love.
......................................................
. <= 17 =>
.
. b y a l l l a [D] i e s a n d b e a
. u t i e s,w h [E] r e I h a v e c o
. m e;s o I n e [V] e r y e t s o j o
. u r n'd o r r [E] s t e d i n t h a
. t p l a c e o [R] p a r t o f t h e
. w o r l d,w h [E] r e s o m e h i g
. h-b o r n,a d m i r a b l e
.
[DE VERE] 17
-----------------------------------------------------
. Henry IV, Part 1 (Quarto 1, 1598)

Wor. Peace coosen, say no more.
. And now I will vnclaspe a *SECRET BOOKE* ,
. And to your quicke conceiuing discontents
. Ile read[E] you matter deepe and daun[G]erous,
. As full of perill an[D] aduenterous spirit,
. As to [O]rewalke a Current roring [L]owd,
. On the vnstedfast foo[T]ing of a *SPEARE*.
......................................................
_______ <= 22 =>
.
. s a y n o m o r e A n d n o w I W I L L v n
. c l a s p e a *S E C R E T B O O K E*, A n d t
. o y o u r q u i c k e c o n c e i u i n g d
. i s c o n t e n t s I l e r e a d [E] y o u m
. a t t e r d e e p e a n d d a u n [G] e r o u
. s,A s f u l l o f p e r i l l a n [D] a d u e
. n t e r o u s s p i r i t,A s t o [O] r e w a
. l k e a C u r r e n t r o r i n g [L] o w d,O
. n t h e v n s t e d f a s t f o o [T] i n g o
. f a*S P E A R E*.
.
[T LODGE] -22 (one of 6 *SPEARE*s) (only *SECRET BOOKE*)
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Ben Jonson folio dedication:

These are, as some infamous Baud, or Whore,
{SH|O]uld praise a Matron. What could hurt her more?
But thou a[R]t proofe against them, and indeed
Above th' ill fortune [O]f them, or the need.
I, therefore will begin. Soule of the {A|G]e !
The applause ! delight ! the wonder of our Stage !
{My Sha{k|E]SPEARE}, rise; I will no{T LODGE} thee by
Chaucer, or [SPENS{E|R], or bid Beaumont lye
A little further, to make thee a roo[M]e :
............................................
________ <= 45 =>
.
___ {S H|O] uldpra iseaMatronW h atcou ldhurthermoreBu
. ttho u a[R] tproof eagainstthe m andin deedAbovethillf
. ortu n e[O] fthemo rtheneedIth e refor ewillbeginSoule
. ofth e{A|G] eTheap plausedelig h tthew onderofourStage
. {MySH A{k|E] SPEARE} riseIwillno {T LODGE} theebyChauceror
. [SPEN S{E|R] orbidB eaumontlyeA l ittle furthertomaketh
. eear o o[M] e

Prob. of *O(ROGER)M* with skip <46 ~ 1 in 10,500
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. EPIGRAMS. BOOK I. The Author B. J.
.
134. On the Famous Voyage.
.
Arses were heard to c[R]oak, in st[E]ad of Fro[G]s;
And for [O]ne Cerbe[R]us, the whole Coast was Dogs.
Furies there wan{T}ed not: each Scold was ten.
And, for th{E} Cryes of Ghosts, Women, and Men,
Lade{N} with Plague-sores, and their Sins, w{E}re heard,
Lash'd by their Conscienc{E}s, to die affeard.
Then let the forme{R} Age, with this content her,
She brou{G}ht the Poets forth, but ours th' Adventer.

[ROGER] -8
{GREENE,T.} -29
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I first got excited about Oxfordian ciphers from reading about 2
amazing near anagrams in Michell's book _Who Wrote Shakespeare_:
..................................................
. OUR EVER-LIVIN(g)
. VERO NIL VERIU(s)

. and:

. ENVIOU(s) SLIVER
. NIL VE(r)O VERIUS
-----------------------------------------------------
I read Michell's hardback book 25 years ago and it
soon after fell apart so I bought a new paperback.

Michell not only sold me on ciphers but also on group theory...

I think Oxford wrote the (self referential) Hamlet 1603
Quarto while others (including Rutland & Lord STRANGE)
improved upon it for the 1604 Quarto.

After Rutland died in 1612
William Stanley honored him in Hamlet's letter:
----------------------------­-------------­-----------
1623 Folio (Act 4, Scene 7)
Claudius reads Hamlet's letter to Laertes:

'High and mighty, You shall know I am set naked on
your kingdom. To-morrow shall I beg leave to see
your kingly eyes: when I shall, first asking your
pardon thereunto, recount the occasion of my sudden
*AND MORE STRANGE RE(t)URN*.' 'HAMLET.'
......................................................
____ *AND MORE STRANGE RE(t)URN*
____ *ROGER MANNERS, E. RUT(l)AND*
--------------------------------------------------
JULY 6, 1604 - Edward de Vere buried
. on St. GodeliEVE's Day
................................................
July 6, 1070 - St. GodeliEVE murdered by
. *DROWNING IN A POND* after being strangled into
. unconciousness by her mother-in-law's servants.
---------------------------------------------------
. *GROS(s)ER NAME* : *ENVIOU(s) SLIVER*
. *ROGE(r) MANERS* : *NIL VE(r)O VERIUS*
..................................................
. Hamlet (Quarto 2, 1604) Act 4, Scene 7
.
Queen: There is a Willow growes ascaunt the Brooke
. That showes his horry leaves in the glassy streame,
. Therewith FANTASTIQUE gaRLANDs did she make
. Of Crowflowers, Nettles, Daises, and long *PURPLES*
. That liberall Shepheards giue *A GROS(s)ER NAM{E}* ,
. But our cull-c{O}ld maydes doe [D]ead mens fing[E]rs call them.
. There on the pen[D]ant boughes h[E]r *CRONET WEED{E}S*
. Clamb(RING) t{O} hang, an *ENVIO[U](s) SLIVER* brok[E],
. When downe he[R] weedy trophi[E]s and her selfe
................................................
. <= 12 =>
.
. *A G R O S (s) E R N A M {E}*
. B u t o u r c u l l -c {O}
. l d m a y d e s d o e [D]
. e a d m e n s f i n g [E]
. r s c a l l t h e m. T h
. e r e o n t h e p e n [D]
. a n t b o u g h e s h [E]
. r *C R O N E T W E E D {E}
. S* C l a m b (R I N G) t {O}
. h a n g, a n *E N V I O [U]
. (s) S L I V E R* b r o k [E]
. W h e n d o w n e h e [R]
. w e e d y t r o p h i [E]
. s a n d h e r s e l f e
.
[DE{E.O.}UERE] 12
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David Roper Stratford Monument array:
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<= 34 =>

TE RRAT E (G) I TPOP U L U S M Æ R E T O{L Y M P U S H A B E}T
..................................................................
ST AYPA S (S) E NGER W H Y G O E S T T H O U B Y S O F A S T R
EA DIFT (H)(O) U CANS T W H O M[E N V I O U S]D E A T H H A T H
PL ASTW (I)(T) H INTH I S {M O N[U]M E N T|S H A K S P E A R E}W
IT HWHO (M)(E) Q UICK(N)a {T U R[E|D]I D E|W H O S E N A M E D}O
<TH DECK> Y (S) T OMBE F A R M O[R|E]t H E N C O S T{S I E H}A L
LY THEH A (T) H WRIT T L E[A.V|E|S L I V]I N G A R T B U T P A
GE TOSE R V E HISW I T T
...............................................................
"[ENVIOUS SLIV/ER] broke"
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Art Neuendorffer
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. T O T H E O N L I E
. B E G E T T E R O F
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. T H E S E I N S U I
. N G S O N N E T S M
. R W H A L L H A P P
. I N E S [S] E A N D T
. H A T E [T] E R N I T
. I E P (R)[O] M I S E D
. B Y O (U)[R] E V E R L
. I V I (N)[G] P O E T W
. I S H (E) T H T H E W
. E L L W I S H I N G
. A D V E N T U R E R
. I N S E T T I N G F
. O R T H
.
[GROTS] -10
Just ROT is better, Art -- there is something to be said for truth in adVERtising.

[Crackpot cryptography snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
SHORTCAKE, n. An unsweetened breakfast cake shortened
. with *BUTTER* , rolled thin, and baked.
Why do you emphasize "butter", Art? Is it supposed to be a reference to Oxford?

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
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___ <= 12 =>
. S o d o o u r m i n u (I)
. t e s h a s t e n t o [T]
. h e i r e n d,E a c h [C]
. h a n g i n g p l a c [E]
. w i t h t h a t w h i [C]
. h g o e s b e f o r e,[I]
. n s e q u e n t t o i [L]
. e a l l f o r w a r d s
. d o c o n t e n d.
[T.CECIL] 12 prob. in Sonnets ~ 1 in 67
So you now think (usual disclaimer) that Thomas Cecil wrote Shakespeare's sonnets, Art?!
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
Robert CECIL: *CROOKED ECLIPSES* ?
Did you see the recent solar eclipse, Art? Oxford would have enjoyed the spectacle -- by all accounts, he liked being mooned.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
AVER, n. [OF. AVER domestic animal, whence LL. AVERia,
pl. cattle. cf. {AVERage}.] A WORKING OX. [Obs. or Dial. Eng.]
But Oxford neVER worked in his life, Art!

[Much more crackpot cryptography snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
I first got excited about Oxfordian ciphers from reading about 2
..................................................
. OUR EVER-LIVIN(g)
. VERO NIL VERIU(s)
. ENVIOU(s) SLIVER
. NIL VE(r)O VERIUS
Neither of those is an anagram, Art. Nor is either particularly amazing.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
I read Michell's hardback book 25 years ago
You mean, you've been deluded for a quarter century and STILL haven't wised up, Art?!
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
and it
soon after fell apart so I bought a new paperback.
Michell not only sold me on ciphers but also on group theory...
You should try studying some *real* group theory, Art:

http://tinyurl.com/y8bevfgg

In your admiration of Michell, you've been confusing "in a nutshell" with "by a nutcase".
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
I think
...usual disclaimer, Art! Don't forget it!
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
Oxford wrote the (self referential) Hamlet
What do you think (usual disclaimer) is "self referential" about _Hamlet_, Art?
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
1603 Quarto while others (including Rutland & Lord STRANGE)
improved upon it for the 1604 Quarto.
[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
____ *AND MORE STRANGE RE(t)URN*
____ *ROGER MANNERS, E. RUT(l)AND*
That's not an anagram, Art.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. *GROS(s)ER NAME* : *ENVIOU(s) SLIVER*
. *ROGE(r) MANERS* : *NIL VE(r)O VERIUS*
Neither of those is an anagram, Art -- except peshapr to an illitesate moson who neves leasned to sead, ro cannot dirtingurh the lettes "r" fsom the lettes "s" and thur conrirtently failr to dirtinguirh seal anagsamr fsom bogur anagsamr.

[Crackpot cryptography snipped]

Why do you waste your time posting the VERy same idiotic crap oVER and oVER and oVER, Art? There is nobody left but Marco, ArtNeanderthal, and you, if indeed the latter two are distinct. Why don't increase your readership by moving to Oxfraud? Or ShakesVere?
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Art Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter)
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.
. T O T H E O N L I E
. B E G E T T E R O F
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. T H E S E I N S U I
. N G S O N N E T S M
. R W H A L L H A P P
. I N E S [S] E A N D T
. H A T E [T] E R N I T
. I E P (R)[O] M I S E D
. B Y O (U)[R] E V E R L
. I V I (N)[G] P O E T W
. I S H (E) T H T H E W
. E L L W I S H I N G
. A D V E N T U R E R
. I N S E T T I N G F
. O R T H
.
[GROTS] -10
Lea wrote: <<Just ROT is better, Art -
- there is something to be said for truth in adVERtising.>>

The Masonic "G" ROTS alright...and thereby hangs a tale:
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__ Hamlet (1603: Bad Quarto 1) Act 5 Scene 1
..........................................................
Hamlet: An excellent fellow by the Lord Horatio,
. This *SEAUEN YEARES* haue I noted it: the toe of the pesant,
. *COMES so neere the heele of the courtier* ,
. That hee gawles his kibe, I prethee tell mee one thing,
. How long will a man lie in the ground before hee *ROTS*?
.
Clowne: I faith {SIR}, if hee be not rotten [B]efore
. *HE BE* laide in, [A]s w{E} haue many pocky [C]or{S}es,
. H(E) will last y[O]u, e{I}ght (Y)eares, *a TAN[N]ER*
. {WILL}(L)ast you eight yeare(S) full out, or nine.
.............................................
. <= 17 =>
.
. f a i t h {S I R} i f h e e b e n o
. t (R) o t t e n [B] e f o r e*H E B E*
. l (A) i d e i n [A] s w {E}h a u e m a
. n (Y) p o c k y [C] o r {S}e s H (E)w i
. l (L) l a s t y [O] u e {I}g h t (Y)e a
. r (E) S A T A N [N] E R {W I L L}(L)a s
. t (Y) o u e i g h t y e a r e (S)a f
. u l l o u t o r n i n e.
........................................................
[{SIR}BACON] 17: Bacon knighted in 1603 (the year of Q1)
(RAYLEY) 17
{WISE} -17
{WILL.}(SLYE) -17: cast for Every Man in His Humour (1598)
........................................................
Hamlet: And why A {TANNER}?
.
Clowne: Why his hide is so tanned with his trade,
. That it will holde out water, that's a parlous
. Deuourer of your dead body, a great soaker.
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. vero NIHIL verius
. < R. O. T. >
.
Eve Kendall: Roger O. Thornhill. What does the O stand for?
.
Roger Thornhill: Nothing.
------------------------------­----------------------------
. As You Like It Act 2, Scene 7
.
JAQUES: And so, from hour to hour, we ripe and ripe,
. And then, from hour to hour, we <R.O.T.> & <R.O.T.>;
. And thereby hangs a tale.'
----------------------------------------------------------­-
. _Nickolas Nickleby_ by Charles Dickens

<<No bell or book for me! Throw me on a duNgHILL,
and let me <R.O.T.> there, to infect the air!'>>
-------------------------------------------------------
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
SHORTCAKE, n. An unsweetened breakfast cake shortened
. with *BUTTER* , rolled thin, and baked.
Lea wrote: <<Why do you emphasize "butter", Art?>>
------------------------------------------------------------------
Nathaniel *BUTTER*'s 1st edition of Shakespeare's King Lear in 1608
is the only pre-Folio publication to give the name SHAKESPEARE
top billing on the Title Page other than the 1609 Sonnets.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_Folio
-----------------------------------------------------------
M. William Shak-speare:

HIS

True Chronicle Historie of the [L]ife and
death [O]f King LEAR an[D] his three
Dau[G]hters.

With th[E] vnfortunate life of Edgar, sonne
and heire to the Earle of Gloster, and his
sullen and assumed humor of
[TOM] of Bedlam:
.................................
. <= 12 =>
.
. {T}r u e C h r o n i c l
. e{H} i s t o r i e o f t
. h e [L]i f e a n d d e a
. t h [O]f K i n g L E A R
. a n [D]h i s t h r e e D
. a u [G]h t e r s.W i t h
. t h [E]v n f o r t u n a
. t e l i f e o f E d g a
. r,s o n n e a n d h e i
. r e t o t h e E a r l e
. o f G l o s t e r,a n d
. h i s s u l l e n a n d
. a s s u m e d h u m o r
. o f [T O M]o f B e d l a m:
.
[LODGE] 12 : Prob. ~ 1 in 690
[TOM] 1
..............................................................
As it [W]as played before th[E] King's Mai{E}stie at W[H]itehall
{U}pon S.Stephans nig{H}t in Chris(T)mas Hollidayes.
........................................
. <= 5 x 17 =>
.
. A s i t[W]a s p l a y e d b e f o
. r e t h[E]K i n g's M a i{E}s t i
. e a t W[H]i t e h a l l{U}p o n S.
. S t e p h a n s n i g{H}t i n C h
. r i s(T)m a s H o l l i d a y e s.

[HEW] -17
{HUE} -16 : Prob. of both in 5 x 17 italic array ~ 1 in 1650
...........................................................
By his Maiesties seruants pl(A)ying vsually at the Gloabe
on the Bancke-side.

(L)ONDON,

Printed for Nathaniel Butter,

and are t(O) be sold at his shop in Pauls
Church-yard at the (S)igne of the Pide Bull neere
St. Austins Gate. 1608.
.................................................
. <= 38 =>
.
. AsitwasplayedbeforetheKingsMaiest i eatW
. hitehallvponSStephansnightinChris (T) masH
. ollidayesByhisMaiestiesseruantspl (A) ying
. vsuallyattheGloabeontheBanckeside (L) ONDO
. NPrintedforNathanielButterandaret (O) beso
. ldathisshopinPaulsChurchyardatthe (S) igne
. ofthePideBullneereStAustinsGate
.
(TALOS) 38 : Prob. ~ 1 in 58
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___ <= 12 =>
. S o d o o u r m i n u (I)
. t e s h a s t e n t o [T]
. h e i r e n d,E a c h [C]
. h a n g i n g p l a c [E]
. w i t h t h a t w h i [C]
. h g o e s b e f o r e,[I]
. n s e q u e n t t o i [L]
. e a l l f o r w a r d s
. d o c o n t e n d.
[T.CECIL] 12 prob. in Sonnets ~ 1 in 67
Lea wrote:

<<So you now think that Thomas Cecil wrote Shakespeare's sonnets, Art?!>>

It's probably a hidden- dedication
to (the only Garter vote for Oxford)
[T]homas [CECIL]: a la:
------------------------------­-------------------------
T O T H E R I G H T H O N O R A B L E
Henrie Wriothesley, Earle of Southampton,
and Baron of Titchfield.

RIght Honourable, I know not how I shall offend in
dedicating my unpolisht lines to your Lordship, nor
how the worlde Will censure mee for choosing so
strong a proppe to support so Weake a burthen,
onelye if your Honour seeme but pleased, I ac-
count my selfe highly praised,

and vowe to take advantage of all idle houres,

TILL I [H]AV[E] HO[N]OU[R]ED [Y]OU [W.]IT[H.] SO[M]E G[r.]

-AVER LABOUR.

[HENRY W.] 3 : Prob. in V&A [HENRY W.] dedication ~ 1 in 36,000
..............................................................
AVER, n. [OF. AVER domestic animal, whence LL. AVERia,
pl. cattle. cf. {AVERage}.] A WORKING OX. [Obs. or Dial. Eng.]
..............................................................
Moby Dick by Herman Melville
Chapter 103: Measurement of The Whale's Skeleton

The largest, a middle one, is in width somet[H]ing less than three
fe[E]t, and in depth more tha[N] four. The smallest, whe[R]e the
spine tapers awa[Y] into the tail, is only t[W.]o inches in width,
and looks something like a white billiard-ball.

[HENRY W.] 19 : shortest skip in MD & KJV.
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Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
Robert CECIL: *CROOKED ECLIPSES* ?
Lea wrote: <<Did you see the recent solar eclipse, Art?>>

I saw the local 81% partial eclipse.

Lea wrote: <<Oxford would have enjoyed the spectacle >>
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Was sick almost to doomsday with *ECLIPSE*: Hamlet: I, i
These late *ECLIPSES* in the sun and moon portend King Lear: I, ii
The mortal moon hath her *ECLIPSE* endured Sonnets: CVII
Born to *ECLIPSE* thy life this afternoon. King Henry VI, part I: IV, v
This other day, what should follow these *ECLIPSES*. King Lear: I, ii
Silver'd in the moon's *ECLIPSE*, Macbeth: IV, i
Sigh like tom o' bedlam. o, these *ECLIPSES* do King Lear: I, ii
My joy of liberty is half *ECLIPSE*d. King Henry VI, part III: IV, vi
Methinks it should be now a huge *ECLIPSE* Othello: V, ii
Is now *ECLIPSE*d; and it portends alone Antony and Cleopatra: III, xiii
Clouds and *ECLIPSES* stain both moon and sun, Sonnets: XXXV 11 results returned.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
AVER, n. [OF. AVER domestic animal, whence LL. AVERia,
pl. cattle. cf. {AVERage}.] A WORKING OX. [Obs. or Dial. Eng.]
Lea wrote: <<But Oxford neVER worked in his life, Art!>>

£1000/year for 2 plays a year over 18 years!!
----------------------------------------------------------
***@btinternet.com wrote:

<<When Hamlet was first performed the great comic Tarlton had just died and the skull monologue was really about him. The likely source of the skull would have been a criminal man, who had hung and been left to rot. Executions where very common and what was left over was sold off. Even the rope to hang people. Hence the phrase "money for old rope".>>
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. The Comedy of Errors > Act IV, scene IV
.
DROMIO OF EPHESUS: God and the *ROPE-MAKER* bear me witness
. That I was sent for nothing but a {rope}!
-----------------------------------------------------------
GABRIEL HARVEY [the *ROPE-MAKER*] addresses Edward deVere
. In the court of Elizabeth I (July, 1578):
.
<<O great-hearted one, strong in thy mind and thy fiery WILL,
thou wilt conquer thyself, thou wilt conquer others; thy glory
will spread out IN ALL DIRECTIONS BEYOND THE ARCTIC OCEAN>>
.................................................................
<<...as also for the special good favour I bear to Master Frobisher,
. to offer unto you to be an *ADVENTURER* therein for the sum of
. ONE THOUSAND POUNDS or more, if you like to admit thereof,
. which sum or sums upon your certificate of admittance,
. I will enter into bond, From the Court, the 21st of May 1578.
. *Your loving friend* , Edward Oxenford>>
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____ The Comedy of Errors Act 4 scene 1
.
ANTIPHOLUS OF EPHESUS:
. While I go to the goldsmith's house, go thou
. And buy A {rope}'S END: that will I bestow
. Among my wife and her confederates,
. For locking me out of my doors by day.
. But, soft! I see the goldsmith. Get thee gone;
. Buy thou a {rope} and bring it home to me.
.
DROMIO OF EPHESUS:
. I buy a thousand pound a year: I buy a {rope}.
.
OF EPHESUS: Thou drunken slave, I sent thee for a {rope};
. And told thee to what purpose and what end.
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Rollett (16 x 9) & (18 x 8) *perfect* arrays:
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____________ T O T H{E.O.} n L I E B E G E T T
____________ E {r}O F T[H]{E.S.} S E I N S U I N G
____________ S {o}n n[E] T S (M) R W H a l l H A
____________ P {p}I[N]e S S E_ (A) N D T H A T E
____________ T {e|R]n I T I E P__ (R)o M I S E D
____________ B [Y]o U R E V E R__ l(I) V I N G P
____________ {O.E.} T W I S H E T H T (He) W E L
____________ L [W] I S H I N G A D V E N T U R
____________ E [R] I N S E T T I N G f o r T H
T O T H E O N L I__[E| B E G E T T E R
O F T H E S E I N__[S| U I N G S O N N
E T S M R W H A L [L|H] A P P I N E S
S E A N D T H A T_ [E|T] {e}R N I T I E
P R O M I S E D B_ [Y|O] U{r}E V E R L
I V I N G P O E_T_ W_|I] S H{e}T H T H
E W E L L W I S H I N G A{d v e}N T
U R E R I N S E T T I N G F O R T H
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Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
I first got excited about Oxfordian ciphers from reading about 2
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. OUR EVER-LIVIN(g)
. VERO NIL VERIU(s)
. ENVIOU(s) SLIVER
. NIL VE(r)O VERIUS
Lea wrote: <<Neither of those is an anagram, Art.>>

Close enough for government work:
£1000/year for 2 plays a year over 18 years!
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
I read Michell's hardback book 25 years ago
Lea wrote:

<<You mean, you've been deluded for a quarter century
and STILL haven't wised up, Art?!>>
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*ANDREW {WISE}* - titular Grand Prior 1593-1631
THE KNIGHTS OF SAINT JOHN IN ENGLAND, SCOTLAND AND IRELAND
http://www.saintjohn.org/priory.htm
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. 1597, Richard III (Q1 STC 22314):
. THE TRAGEDY OF / King Richard the third.
.
. Printed by (VALENTIN)e Sims, for *ANDREW {WISE}* ,
.
. dwelling in Paules Church-yard, at the
. Signe of the Angell. 1597.
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__ Hamlet (1603: Bad Quarto 1) Act 5 Scene 1
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Hamlet: An excellent fellow by the Lord Horatio,
. This *SEAUEN YEARES* haue I noted it: the toe of the pesant,
. *COMES so neere the heele of the courtier* ,
. That hee gawles his kibe, I prethee tell mee one thing,
. How long will a man lie in the ground before hee *ROTS*?
.
Clowne: I faith {SIR}, if hee be not rotten [B]efore
. *HE BE* laide in, [A]s w{E} haue many pocky [C]or{S}es,
. H(E) will last y[O]u, e{I}ght (Y)eares, *a TAN[N]ER*
. {WILL}(L)ast you eight yeare(S) full out, or nine.
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. <= 17 =>
.
. f a i t h {S I R} i f h e e b e n o
. t (R) o t t e n [B] e f o r e*H E B E*
. l (A) i d e i n [A] s w {E}h a u e m a
. n (Y) p o c k y [C] o r {S}e s H (E)w i
. l (L) l a s t y [O] u e {I}g h t (Y)e a
. r (E) S A T A N [N] E R {W I L L}(L)a s
. t (Y) o u e i g h t y e a r e (S)a f
. u l l o u t o r n i n e.
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[{SIR}BACON] 17: Bacon knighted in 1603 (the year of Q1)
(RAYLEY) 17
{WISE} -17
{WILL.}(SLYE) -17: cast for Every Man in His Humour (1598)
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Hamlet: And why A {TANNER}?
.
Clowne: Why his hide is so tanned with his trade,
. That it will holde out water, that's a parlous
. Deuourer of your dead body, a great soaker.
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Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
and it soon after fell apart so I bought a new paperback.
Michell not only sold me on ciphers but also on group theory...
Lea wrote:

<<You should try studying some *real* group theory, Art:

http://tinyurl.com/y8bevfgg >>

Do VERO VERIUS NIL-potent groups COUNT?
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http://tinyurl.com/zv93mdf
.
_The MINERVA BRITANNA_ Banner Folding clearly demonstrates
how the Equidistant Linear Sequence decoding is to be performed:
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"all thinges perish and come to theyr last end, but workes
of learned WITS & monuments of Poetry abide *for EVER* ."
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_______ <= 7 =>
.
. [V]I __\V\ I T U R
. [I]N G __\E\ N I O
. [C]Æ|T| E \R\ A M
. [O]R|T| I S __\E\ R
. [U N T]
.
{VERE} 8 : Prob. ~ 1 in 140
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1579: Dedication to Oxford in the only edition of
. Geoffrey Gates' The Defence of Militarie profession.
.
. TO THE RIGHT honorable, Edward de \VERE\, Earle of
. Oxenford, [VICOUNT] Bulbecke, Lod of Escales
. and Baldesmere, and Lord great Chamberlaine of England.
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Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
I think Oxford wrote the (self referential) Hamlet
1603 Quarto while others (including Rutland & Lord STRANGE)
improved upon it for the 1604 Quarto.
Lea wrote:

<<What do you think is "self referential" about _Hamlet_, Art?>>
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http://michaelprescott.typepad.com/michael_prescotts_blog/2009/10/polonius-in-queen-elizabeths-court.html

Michael Prescott's Blog

<<Burghley's motto was Cor unum, via una. In the First Quarto of Hamlet, the character later known as Polonius is called Corambis. Cor unum, via una means "one heart, one way." Corambis means "having two hearts." Most likely the name was changed because "Corambis" was just too obvious, at least to those in the know.>>
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Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
____ *AND MORE STRANGE RE(t)URN*
____ *ROGER MANNERS, E. RUT(l)AND*
Lea wrote: <<That's not an anagram, Art.>>

Close enough for government work:
£1000/year for 2 plays a year over 18 years!
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. *GROS(s)ER NAME* : *ENVIOU(s) SLIVER*
. *ROGE(r) MANERS* : *NIL VE(r)O VERIUS*
Lea wrote: <<Neither of those is an anagram, Art>>

Close enough for government work:
£1000/year for 2 plays a year over 18 years!

Lea wrote:

<<Why do you waste your time posting the VERy same idiotic crap oVER and oVER and oVER, Art? There is nobody left but Marco, ArtNeanderthal, and you, if indeed the latter two are distinct. Why don't increase your readership by moving to Oxfraud? Or ShakesVere?>>

And run into "well-read & intelligent" Crowley?
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Major Tom Reedy wrote (and the quickly deleted):

<<Hi Bob [Grumman].

I got an e-mail from the Trust & was assigned Foelster just
as soon as his name appeared on the ng. Boy, I'm glad I was taken off
Crowley: the man is too well-read & intelligent, it was all I could do
to keep up with him.

I'm damn glad they've never given me Art to debate; I feel sorry for
poor David. Of course that new anagram program they have is sure coming
in handy for him, but I *NEVER* want to go toe-to-toe with Art--he knows
too much, although I doubt if he's even aware of all he knows.>>
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Art Neuendorffer

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