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Is not this a brand pluckt out of the fire?
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Arthur Neuendorffer
2017-12-21 19:09:46 UTC
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ZECHARIAH. 1611 KJV

2:8-12 For thus sayth the Lord of hostes, After the glory hath he sent me vnto
the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you, [T]oucheth the apple
of his eye. For behold, I *WILL SHAKE* mine hand vpon them, [A]nd they shall
bee a spoile to their seruants: and yee shall know that the [L]ord of hostes
hath sent me.Sing and reioyce, O daughter of Zion: for loe, I c[O]me, and I
will dwell in the middest of thee, sayth the Lord. And many nation[S] shalbe
ioyned to the Lord in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwel in
the middest of hee, and thou shalt know that the Lord of hostes hath sent
me vnto thee.

[TALOS] 59
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3:1-2 And he shewed me Ioshua the high Priest, standing before the Angel
of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. And the
Lord said vnto Satan; The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan, euen the Lord that
hath chosen Ierusalem rebuke thee. Is not this a brand pluckt out of the fire?
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2:14 But I scattered them with a whirlewinde among all the nations,
whom they knew not: thus the land was de[SOLAT]e after them, that
no man passed through, nor returned: for they layed the pleasant
land de[SOLAT]e.
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Art Neuendorffer
nordicskiv2
2017-12-22 19:03:45 UTC
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ZECHARIAH. 1611 KJV
2:8-12 For thus sayth the Lord of hostes, After the glory hath he sent me vnto
the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you, [T]oucheth the apple
of his eye. For behold, I *WILL SHAKE* mine hand vpon them, [A]nd they shall
bee a spoile to their seruants: and yee shall know that the [L]ord of hostes
hath sent me.Sing and reioyce, O daughter of Zion: for loe, I c[O]me, and I
will dwell in the middest of thee, sayth the Lord. And many nation[S] shalbe
ioyned to the Lord in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwel in
the middest of hee, and thou shalt know that the Lord of hostes hath sent
me vnto thee.
[TALOS] 59
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3:1-2 And he shewed me Ioshua the high Priest, standing before the Angel
of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. And the
Lord said vnto Satan; The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan, euen the Lord that
hath chosen Ierusalem rebuke thee. Is not this a brand pluckt out of the fire?
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2:14 But I scattered them with a whirlewinde among all the nations,
whom they knew not: thus the land was de[SOLAT]e after them, that
no man passed through, nor returned: for they layed the pleasant
land de[SOLAT]e.
The word "desolate" has no connection with "Talos", Art. The former is a perfectly normal English word. It has been used countless times by countless writers with no cryptographic intent.

Was there supposed to have been any point to the above effusion of lunatic logorrhea, Art? If so, what was it? Are you aware that this is supposed to be a Shakespeare newsgroup, Art?
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Art Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter)
Arthur Neuendorffer
2017-12-22 21:11:36 UTC
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Lea wrote:

<<The word "desolate" has no connection with "Talos", Art.
The former is a perfectly normal English word. It has been used
countless times by countless writers with no cryptographic intent.>>
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*WILL SHAKE* occurs only 4 times in 1611 KJV (twice in Haggai)
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. Haggai 2 (end) : 1611 KJV
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21-23 Speak [T]o Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying, I *WILL SHAKE* the
heavens [A]nd the earth; And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and
I wi[L]l destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will
[O]verthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horse[S]
and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother.
In that day, [S]aith the LORD of hosts, will I take thee, [O] Zerubbabel,
my servant, the son of Shea[L]tiel, saith the LORD, and will make thee
[A]s a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith [T]he LORD of hosts.

[TALOS] -32, 53 : Prob. both near *WILL SHAKE* ~ 1 in 400
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. ZECHARIAH 2 (end) : 1611 KJV
.
8-14 For thus sayth the Lord of hostes, After the glory hath he sent me vnto
the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you, [T]oucheth the apple
of his eye. For behold, I *WILL SHAKE* mine hand vpon them, [A]nd they shall
bee a spoile to their seruants: and yee shall know that the [L]ord of hostes
hath sent me. Sing and reioyce, O daughter of Zion: for loe, I c[O]me, and I
will dwell in the middest of thee, sayth the Lord. And many nation[S] shalbe
ioyned to the Lord in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwel in
the middest of hee, and thou shalt know that the Lord of hostes hath sent me
vnto thee. Therefore it is come to passe, that as he cried, and they would
not heare, so they cried, an{D} I would not heare, sa{I}th the Lord of
hoste{S}. But I scattered the{M} with a whirlewinde {A}mong all the nation{S}
, whom they knew not: thus the land was de[SOLAT]e after them, that no man
passed through, nor returned: for they layed the pleasant land de[SOLAT]e.
.
{DISMAS} 17
[TALOS] 59,-1,-1
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. Revelation 1611 KJV

20:1-3 And I saw an Angel come down from heauen, haui[N]g the key of the
bottomles pit, & a great chai{N}e in his hand. [A]nd hee l{A}id hold
on the dragon {T}hat old serpent, whic{H} is [T]he deuill and [SAT{A}N],
and bound him a thou{S}and yeres, And c[A]st him into the bottomlesse
pit, and shut him vp, and set a [S]eale vpon him, that he should
deceiue the nations no more, till the thousand yeeres should bee
fulfilled: and after that hee must be loosed a little season.
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. <= 15 =>
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. e e f u l f i l l e d:
.
[SATAN] -46, 1 : Prob. ~ 1 in 10
{SAHTAN} -18 : Prob. ~ 1 in 215
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20: 14-15 And death and hell were c(A)st into the lake of fi(R)e:
. this is the second *D(E)ATH*. And whosoeuer wa(S) not found
. written in (T)he booke of life, was cast into the lake of fire.
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. <= 18 =>
.
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(AREST) 18
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. ZECHARIAH. 1611 KJV
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3:1-2 And he shewed me *IOSHUA* the high Priest, standing before the Angel
of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. And the
Lord said vnto Satan; The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan, euen the Lord that
hath chosen Ierusalem rebuke thee. Is not this a brand pluckt out of the fire?
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. Sonnet 154
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THe little love-God l[Y]ing once a sleepe,
Laid by his side his heart inflaming brand,
Whilst many Nymph[E]s that vou'd chast life to keep,
Came tripping by, but in her maiden {H}and,
The fayre[S]t votary tooke up tha{T} fire,
Which many Legions of true hea{R}ts had warm'd,
And so t[H]e Generall of h{O}t desire,
Was sleeping by a Virgin ha{N}d disarm'd.
This br(A)nd she q[U]enched in a coo(L)e Well by,
Which from lov(E)s fire tooke heat perpe(T)uall,
Growing [A] *BATH* and (H)ealthfull remedy,
For m(E)n diseasd, but I my *M(I)STRISSE tHrALL*,

Came there for cure and this by that I prove,
Loves fire heates water, water cooles not love.
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. <= 65 =>
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THelittleloveGodl [Y] ingonceasleepeLaidbyhissidehisheartinflamingbra
ndWhilstmanyNymph [E] sthatvoudchastlifetokeepCametrippingbybutinherm
aidenHandThefayre [S] tvotarytookevpthaTfireWhichmanyLegionsoftruehea
RtshadwarmdAndsot [H] eGenerallofhOtdesireWassleepingbyaVirginhaNddis
armdThisbrAndsheq [U] enchedinacooLeWellbyWhichfromlovEsfiretookeheat
perpeTuallGrowing [A] BATHandHealthfullremedyFormEndiseasdbutImyMISTR
ISSEtHrALLCamethe r eforcureandthisbythatIproveLouesfireheateswater
watercoolesnotlov e
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(ALETHEI) 20 : Prob. in last Sonnet ~ 1 in 4020
[YESHUA] 65 : Prob. in last Sonnet ~ 1 in 2220
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<<ALETHEIa (Ancient Greek: ἀλήθεια) is truth or disclosure in philosophy. It was used in Ancient Greek philosophy and revived in the 20th century by Martin Heidegger. It is a Greek word variously translated as "unclosedness", "unconcealedness", "disclosure" or "truth". The literal meaning of the word ἀ–λήθεια is "the state of not being hidden; the state of being evident." It also means factuality or reality. It is the opposite of lethe, which literally means "oblivion", "forgetfulness", or "concealment". According to Pindar's Olympian Ode, ALETHEIa is the daughter of Zeus, while Aesop in his Fables said that she was crafted by Prometheus.>>
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<<The *PhilALETHEs* Society is a Masonic research society based in North America and founded on October 1, 1928. Among the original forty Fellows [was Rudyard Kipling]. The Greek word φιλαλήθης (pronounced "fill-a-LAY-thayss") was used by ancient writers such as Aristotle & Plutarch, and means "a lover of truth." One of the early uses of the word was as part of a "nome de plume" of Eirenaeus PhilALETHEs (the peaceful lover of truth) who was a 17th-century alchemist and the author of many influential works.

Originally the PhilALETHEs Society consisted only of recognized Masonic authors, limited to forty Fellows at any given time in imitation of the Académie Française. Access was opened to all regular Master Masons through the Correspondence Circle. The number of Fellows is still restricted to 40.>>
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