The Sagittary/Il Saggiatore

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Lyra

2008-03-28 19:03:32 UTC

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sagittary

English

Etymology

Latin sagittarius, from sagitta 'arrow'.

Noun

Singular
sagittary

Plural
sagittaries

sagittary (plural sagittaries)

1. a centaur
2. (heraldry) Sagittarius
3. (archaic) an archer

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sagittary

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Dictionary of Phrase and Fable--S
Sagittary

A terrible archer, half beast and half man, whose eyes sparkled like
fire, and struck dead like lightning. He is introduced into the Trojan
armies by Guido da Colonna.

The dreadful Sagittary
Appals our numbers.

Shakespeare: Troilus and Cressida, v. 5
Source: Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, E. Cobham Brewer, 1894

http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/brewers/sagittary.html

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"The Assayer", or "Il saggiatore" (work by Galileo)

...exchanges, mainly with Orazio Grassi (1583-1654), a professor of
mathematics at the Collegio Romano, he finally entered the argument
under his own name. Il saggiatore (The Assayer), published in 1623,
was a brilliant polemic on physical reality and an exposition of the
new scientific method. Galileo here discussed the method of the newly
emerging science,...

http://www.britannica.com/eb/topic-39171/The-Assayer

Il saggiatore, a work of many dimensions, including method and natural
philosophy in general.

1611-12, he met Card. Maffeo Barberini who became his patron and made
one of his poems a hymn in praise of Galileo. When Barberini was
elected Pope Urban VIII, Galileo dedicated Il saggiatore to him.

http://galileo.rice.edu/Catalog/NewFiles/galilei_gal.html

During 1621 and 1622 Galileo wrote his first book, The Assayer (Il
Saggiatore), which was approved and published in 1623.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei

Greg Reynolds

2008-03-28 19:17:02 UTC

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Post by Lyra
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8 results for sagittary.
http://groups.google.com/group/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/sea...
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sagittary
English
Etymology
Latin sagittarius, from sagitta 'arrow'.
Noun
Singular
sagittary
Plural
sagittaries
sagittary (plural sagittaries)
1. a centaur
2. (heraldry) Sagittarius
3. (archaic) an archer
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sagittary
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Dictionary of Phrase and Fable--S
Sagittary
A terrible archer, half beast and half man, whose eyes sparkled like
fire, and struck dead like lightning. He is introduced into the Trojan
armies by Guido da Colonna.
The dreadful Sagittary
Appals our numbers.
Shakespeare: Troilus and Cressida, v. 5
Source: Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, E. Cobham Brewer, 1894
http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/brewers/sagittary.html
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"The Assayer", or "Il saggiatore" (work by Galileo)
...exchanges, mainly with Orazio Grassi (1583-1654), a professor of
mathematics at the Collegio Romano, he finally entered the argument
under his own name. Il saggiatore (The Assayer), published in 1623,
was a brilliant polemic on physical reality and an exposition of the
new scientific method. Galileo here discussed the method of the newly
emerging science,...
http://www.britannica.com/eb/topic-39171/The-Assayer
Il saggiatore, a work of many dimensions, including method and natural
philosophy in general.
1611-12, he met Card. Maffeo Barberini who became his patron and made
one of his poems a hymn in praise of Galileo. When Barberini was
elected Pope Urban VIII, Galileo dedicated Il saggiatore to him.
http://galileo.rice.edu/Catalog/NewFiles/galilei_gal.html
During 1621 and 1622 Galileo wrote his first book, The Assayer (Il
Saggiatore), which was approved and published in 1623.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei

In Othello, a scene takes place enroute to the Sagittary, which is the
Armory, where the weapons and ordinance is stored and loaded. Did you
purposely discard this meaning or did you not see it?

Greg Reynolds
a true Sagittarian (only needs one shot)

Lyra

2008-03-28 19:24:48 UTC

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Post by Greg Reynolds

Post by Lyra
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8 results for sagittary.
http://groups.google.com/group/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/sea...
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sagittary
English
Etymology
Latin sagittarius, from sagitta 'arrow'.
Noun
Singular
sagittary
Plural
sagittaries
sagittary (plural sagittaries)
1. a centaur
2. (heraldry) Sagittarius
3. (archaic) an archer
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sagittary
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Dictionary of Phrase and Fable--S
Sagittary
A terrible archer, half beast and half man, whose eyes sparkled like
fire, and struck dead like lightning. He is introduced into the Trojan
armies by Guido da Colonna.
The dreadful Sagittary
Appals our numbers.
Shakespeare: Troilus and Cressida, v. 5
Source: Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, E. Cobham Brewer, 1894
http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/brewers/sagittary.html
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"The Assayer", or "Il saggiatore" (work by Galileo)
...exchanges, mainly with Orazio Grassi (1583-1654), a professor of
mathematics at the Collegio Romano, he finally entered the argument
under his own name. Il saggiatore (The Assayer), published in 1623,
was a brilliant polemic on physical reality and an exposition of the
new scientific method. Galileo here discussed the method of the newly
emerging science,...
http://www.britannica.com/eb/topic-39171/The-Assayer
Il saggiatore, a work of many dimensions, including method and natural
philosophy in general.
1611-12, he met Card. Maffeo Barberini who became his patron and made
one of his poems a hymn in praise of Galileo. When Barberini was
elected Pope Urban VIII, Galileo dedicated Il saggiatore to him.
http://galileo.rice.edu/Catalog/NewFiles/galilei_gal.html
During 1621 and 1622 Galileo wrote his first book, The Assayer (Il
Saggiatore), which was approved and published in 1623.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei

In Othello, a scene takes place enroute to the Sagittary, which is the
Armory, where the weapons and ordinance is stored and loaded. Did you
purposely discard this meaning or did you not see it?

No, I'm not reading the play, just web searching to see what there is.

Greg Reynolds

2008-03-28 19:31:22 UTC

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Post by Lyra

Post by Greg Reynolds
In Othello, a scene takes place enroute to the Sagittary, which is the
Armory, where the weapons and ordinance is stored and loaded. Did you
purposely discard this meaning or did you not see it?

No, I'm not reading the play, just web searching to see what there is.

Carry on.

Greg Reynolds

2008-03-28 19:51:56 UTC

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Post by Greg Reynolds
In Othello, a scene takes place enroute to the Sagittary, which is the
Armory, where the weapons and ordinance is stored and loaded.

I concede that I used the word "ordinance" in error here, or at least
in ambiguity, and thus retract the word, and hereby substitute the
word "ordnance."

I regret any inconvenience.

Greg Reynolds

Lyra

2008-03-28 19:22:02 UTC

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Lyra wrote:

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JSTOR: "Sagitary/Sagittar" in Othello

According to Auguste Jal, sagittaria is the Venetian Low Latin name of
a class of light and fast ships used in the Mediterranean from the
twelfth through ...

links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0037-3222(197621)27%3A2%3C200%3A%22IO
%3E2.0.CO%3B2-9 -

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Post by Lyra
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8 results for sagittary.
http://groups.google.com/group/humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare/search?group=humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare&q=sagittary&qt_g=Search+this+group
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sagittary
English
Etymology
Latin sagittarius, from sagitta 'arrow'.
Noun
Singular
sagittary
Plural
sagittaries
sagittary (plural sagittaries)
1. a centaur
2. (heraldry) Sagittarius
3. (archaic) an archer
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sagittary
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Dictionary of Phrase and Fable--S
Sagittary
A terrible archer, half beast and half man, whose eyes sparkled like
fire, and struck dead like lightning. He is introduced into the Trojan
armies by Guido da Colonna.
The dreadful Sagittary
Appals our numbers.
Shakespeare: Troilus and Cressida, v. 5
Source: Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, E. Cobham Brewer, 1894
http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/brewers/sagittary.html
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"The Assayer", or "Il saggiatore" (work by Galileo)
...exchanges, mainly with Orazio Grassi (1583-1654), a professor of
mathematics at the Collegio Romano, he finally entered the argument
under his own name. Il saggiatore (The Assayer), published in 1623,
was a brilliant polemic on physical reality and an exposition of the
new scientific method. Galileo here discussed the method of the newly
emerging science,...
http://www.britannica.com/eb/topic-39171/The-Assayer
Il saggiatore, a work of many dimensions, including method and natural
philosophy in general.
1611-12, he met Card. Maffeo Barberini who became his patron and made
one of his poems a hymn in praise of Galileo. When Barberini was
elected Pope Urban VIII, Galileo dedicated Il saggiatore to him.
http://galileo.rice.edu/Catalog/NewFiles/galilei_gal.html
During 1621 and 1622 Galileo wrote his first book, The Assayer (Il
Saggiatore), which was approved and published in 1623.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei

Lyra

2008-03-28 19:42:34 UTC

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On Mar 28, 7:22 pm, Lyra wrote:

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September 19, 1893, Wednesday

Page 5, 433 words

Mr. Henry Guy Carleton has a "sagittary" in Venice in his play called
"The Lion's Mouth." Some astonishment has been expressed about this,
because the only "sagittary" in Venice that was previously known was
that in "Othello," which has puzzled the editors of Shakespeare for
200 years.

Mr. Carleton writes to The New-York Times: [ END OF FIRST PARAGRAPH ]

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E04E2D9103BEF33A2575AC1A96F9C94629ED7CF

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Just a thought - if Desdemona is at the Sagittary, mayn't this refer
to her presence at the Assayer's ?

(Il Saggiatore) -

if the word was in use in those days.

Maybe there were lodgings there.

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That's it for now, I may look for more later.

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Post by Lyra
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JSTOR: "Sagitary/Sagittar" in Othello
According to Auguste Jal, sagittaria is the Venetian Low Latin name of
a class of light and fast ships used in the Mediterranean from the
twelfth through ...
links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0037-3222(197621)27%3A2%3C200%3A%22IO
%3E2.0.CO%3B2-9 -
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