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The Hare Psychopathology Checklist
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Arthur Neuendorffer
2020-08-10 22:16:08 UTC
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David Webb
2020-08-14 12:20:45 UTC
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But Art -- the checklist omits seVERal of Trump's most characteristic traits:

(1) Circulates utter rubbish from demented conspiracy theorists and other farcically unreliable sources.

(2) Keeps repeating the *same* conclusively refuted idiotic crap oVER and oVER and oVER, hence is either a liar or a moron (that's not an exclusive or).

(3) Wantonly disregards the expertise of specialists who have spent their lives in the careful study of a certain subject.

(4) Thinks (Neuendorffer disclaimer) that a Deep State (or perhaps Deep Strat) cabal is out to get him.
Arthur Neuendorffer
2020-08-14 13:37:09 UTC
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(1) Circulates utter rubbish from demented conspiracy
theorists and other farcically unreliable sources.
https://shakespeareoxfordfellowship.org/famous-shakespeare-authorship-skeptics/
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(2) Keeps repeating the *same* conclusively refuted
idiotic crap oVER and oVER and oVER,...
At least the stuff I repeat comes from MSNBC not FOX.
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(3) Wantonly disregards the expertise of specialists who have
spent their lives in the careful study of a certain subject.
Specialists who have spent their lives
in the careful study of their Bottom lines.

The eye of man hath not heard, the ear of man hath not seen,
man's hand is not able to taste, his tongue to conceive,
nor his heart to report, what my dream was.
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(4) Thinks (Neuendorffer disclaimer) that a Deep State
(or perhaps Deep Strat) cabal is out to get him.
I've nEVER considered Strats as anything but *SHALLOW.*
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Shallow

<<Robert *SHALLOW* is a character who appears in Shakespeare's plays Henry IV, Part 2 and The Merry Wives of Windsor. He is a wealthy landowner and Justice of the Peace in Gloucestershire, who at the time of The Merry Wives of Windsor is said to be over 80 ("four score years and upward"). A thin, vain and often self-deluding individual, used to life in the provinces, Shallow functions as a dramatic foil to the rotund and worldly Sir John Falstaff, who visits Shallow's lands on royal business, but later returns intending to fleece Shallow of his money. In the Merry Wives he visits Windsor with his relative Slender, encountering Falstaff once more.

G. Beiner argues Shallow's self-deceiving vanity provides a kind of "comic justification" for Falstaff's exploitation of him, since we feel more sympathy for "clever knave than a foolish citizen". In the Merry Wives Shallow is set up at the beginning as an impotent foil to the brazen and confident Falstaff, only to prepare the way for a reversal in which Falstaff himself is utterly outwitted and humiliated. Daniel Kornstein says that in Henry IV, Part 2 Shallow is set up as the antithesis of the firm and incorruptible Lord Chief Justice, who is never deceived by Falstaff: the "contrast between the Lord Chief Justice and Shallow could not be greater". Shallow lives up to his name and is a "stupid gullible liar".

Critics have noted that Shakespeare gives Shallow a distinct style of speech, characterised by constant repetition with slight variation. A.R. Humphries described it as "babbling incoherence". Thus in Henry IV, Part 2 he says to Falstaff, "I will not excuse you. You shall not be excused. Excuses shall not be admitted. There is no excuse shall serve. You shall not be excused.—". Both the pathos and the comedy of the character derive from the contrast between the aged Shallow and the lusty, riotous figure he imagines himself to have been in his youth. Anthony Nuttall connects this to a much wider sense of the loss of a perhaps mythical ideal past that runs through the Henriad plays.

Leslie Hotson in his 1931 book Shakespeare versus Shallow argues that Shallow is a parody of William Gardiner (1531–97), a corrupt Justice of the Peace who had a long-running feud with the owner of the Swan theatre, Francis Langley. Shakespeare had been drawn into this feud and had even had a writ of attachment, a form of restraining order, taken out against him by Gardiner's stepson. Hotson argues that the joke about the "luces" in Shallow's coat of arms refers to Gardiner's wife, Frances Luce, whose family coat of arms bearing luces was incorporated into Gardiner's. Hotson says, "Could this be the true significance of the coat of arms passage in the Merry Wives? Was the Justice Shallow of the play a caricature of Justice Gardiner?" Hotson proceeds to argue that most of Shallow's actions in the plays satirise corrupt deals in which Gardiner was involved, and that the dim-witted Slender is a parody of Gardiner's stepson, William Wayte, who was mercilessly exploited by Gardiner.>>
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Art Neuendorffer
David Webb
2020-08-14 19:28:58 UTC
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(1) Circulates utter rubbish from demented conspiracy
theorists and other farcically unreliable sources.
https://shakespeareoxfordfellowship.org/famous-shakespeare-authorship-skeptics/
I neVER said that you and Trump were *alone* in circulating utter rubbish from demented conspiracy theorists and other farcically unreliable sources, Art.
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(2) Keeps repeating the *same* conclusively refuted
idiotic crap oVER and oVER and oVER,...
At least the stuff I repeat comes from MSNBC not FOX.
Really, Art?! When and where did MSNBC aVER that Coleridge wrote Wordsworth's poem "The Idiot Boy"? Please provide a link to an MSNBC site that makes such a claim. I'll bet that h.l.a.s.'s esteemed Idiot Boy will be unable to do so.

When and where did MSNBC eVER assert that _тæрин_ is Russian for "youth", Art? Please provide a link to an MSNBC site that makes such a claim. I'm pretty sure that MSNBC journalists are capable of distinguishing Russian from Ossetian; only illiterate boobs lack that capability.

When and where did MSNBC extol the remarkable feature of the number 19 as both the sum of two consecutive integers and the difference of their squares, Art? Please provide a link to an MSNBC site. I'm confident that MSNBC journalists either understand seventh grade algebra or can find someone who does to check out just how remarkable this property is.

On the contrary, most of the conclusively refuted idiotic crap that you post oVER and oVER and oVER comes from fOX.
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(3) Wantonly disregards the expertise of specialists who have
spent their lives in the careful study of a certain subject.
Specialists who have spent their lives
in the careful study of their Bottom lines.
No, Art. While some medical researchers' conclusions may be influenced by their funding source (although safeguards are put in place to make sure that this happens as little as possible), literary scholars' conclusions are not. The remuneration of academic Shakespeare scholars is based upon the quality and quantity of their intellectual work, not upon whateVER conclusions they may reach. As for independent scholars like Irving Matus or Dave Kathman, they generally receive no remuneration for their scholarly work anyway, so they have *no* vested interest in any particular orthodoxy.

You clearly haven't the foggiest idea how a uniVERsity operates, Art. It's a pity that Lehigh neVER gave you chance to find out, but one can understand their basic literacy requirement for matriculation.

Incidentally, Oxford, who certainly was no scholar, was said to have been VERy interested in the careful study (and probing) of bottom lines -- he lined up Oxford's boys for the purpose.
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The eye of man hath not heard, the ear of man hath not seen,
Of course not, Art -- one *cannot* detect the shape of a drum by ear, even a perfect one.
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man's hand is not able to taste, his tongue to conceive,
There's your problem, Art -- your "conceptions" do indeed appear to emerge from between your cheeks (but not those that house your tongue).
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nor his heart to report, what my dream was.
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(4) Thinks (Neuendorffer disclaimer) that a Deep State
(or perhaps Deep Strat) cabal is out to get him.
I've nEVER considered Strats as anything but *SHALLOW.*
That's your loss, Art -- the virtually insuperable problem for you is that most of them write in English, so you cannot have read them.

Incidentally, Art, are you planning to attend this year's Oxfordian nutfest? Now that such assemblies (or in this particular case, ASSemblies) are perforce (or in this particular case, perfarce) virtual, you have *no excuse* not to participate -- you wouldn't even have to ride the train to Baltimore! It's true that you would not get to enjoy Mr. Streitz's legendary banquet entertainment (no virtual inflated pig bladders, alas), but you could still renew your old friendships with Marty Hyatt, Nina Green, Dr. antiStratnutter, Mr. Streitz, Stephanie Caruana, etc. As a bonus, "Zoom" is an anagram of _mozo_, a Spanish translation of the Ossetian word _тæрин_! How could you possibly pass up such an opportunity, Art?

[Asinine anthologizing snipped]
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Art Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter)
Arthur Neuendorffer
2020-08-15 18:26:52 UTC
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But Art -- the checklist omits seVERal of
(1) Circulates utter rubbish from demented conspiracy
theorists and other farcically unreliable sources.
https://shakespeareoxfordfellowship.org/famous-shakespeare-authorship-skeptics/
Lea wrote:

<<I neVER said that you and Trump were *alone* in circulating utter rubbish from demented conspiracy theorists and other farcically unreliable sources, Art.>>

Trump is an AUTHORitarian dictator who says anything he wants as fact without a shred of hard evidence.

Stratfordians are an AUTHORitarian dictatorship that state anything they want as fact without a shred of hard evidence.

Alan Green tested the Holy Trinity altar for a secret hidding place.

Meanwhile: Strats refuse to excavate the site of the Globe Theatre.
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(2) Keeps repeating the *same* conclusively refuted
idiotic crap oVER and oVER and oVER,...
At least the stuff I repeat comes from MSNBC not FOX.
Lea wrote: <<Really, Art?!>>

I neVER said that EVERything I state *COMES^ from MSNBC.
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(3) Wantonly disregards the expertise of specialists who have
spent their lives in the careful study of a certain subject.
Specialists who have spent their lives
in the careful study of their Bottom lines.
Lea wrote:

<<The remuneration of academic Shakespeare scholars is based upon the quality and quantity of their intellectual work, not upon whateVER conclusions they may reach.>>

That's a good one, Dave!
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The eye of man hath not heard, the ear of man hath not seen,
Lea wrote:

<<Of course not, Art -- one *cannot* detect the shape of a drum by ear, even a perfect one.

Wasn't that the thesis of your paper?
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man's hand is not able to taste, his tongue to conceive,
Lea wrote: <<There's your problem, Art.>>

After some practice...
I did finally figured out how sex works somr time ago, Dave.
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nor his heart to report, what my dream was.
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(4) Thinks (Neuendorffer disclaimer) that a Deep State
(or perhaps Deep Strat) cabal is out to get him.
I've nEVER considered Strats as anything but *SHALLOW.*
Lea wrote: <<That's your loss, Art.

Incidentally, Art, are you planning to attend this year's Oxfordian nutfest? Now that such assemblies (or in this particular case, ASSemblies) are perforce (or in this particular case, perfarce) virtual, you have *no excuse* not to participate -- you wouldn't even have to ride the train to Baltimore! It's true that you would not get to enjoy Mr. Streitz's legendary banquet entertainment (no virtual inflated pig bladders, alas), but you could still renew your old friendships with Marty Hyatt, Nina Green, Dr. antiStratnutter, Mr. Streitz, Stephanie Caruana, etc. As a bonus, "Zoom" is an anagram of _mozo_, a Spanish translation of the Ossetian word _тæрин_! How could you possibly pass up such an opportunity, Art?>>

I'm already virtually ignored.
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Art Neuendorffer
David Webb
2020-08-19 02:08:28 UTC
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But Art -- the checklist omits seVERal of
(1) Circulates utter rubbish from demented conspiracy
theorists and other farcically unreliable sources.
https://shakespeareoxfordfellowship.org/famous-shakespeare-authorship-skeptics/
<<I neVER said that you and Trump were *alone* in circulating utter rubbish
from demented conspiracy theorists and other farcically unreliable sources,
Art.>>
Trump is an AUTHORitarian dictator who says anything he wants as fact
without a shred of hard evidence.
You're not giving Trump his due, Art. Like you, Trump does not confine himself merely to saying whateVER he wants without furnishing a shred of supporting evidence (hard or otherwise); like you, he goes *far* beyond that -- indeed, he says things that are *demonstrably false* and that are contradicted by iron-clad evidence. MOreoVER, like you, he repeats these idiocies oVER and oVER and oVER and oVER, utterly heedless to conclusive refutations of his supposed "facts".
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Stratfordians are an AUTHORitarian dictatorship that state anything they
want as fact without a shred of hard evidence.
On the contrary, Art -- "Stratfordians" produce evidence, but literacy is required to evaluate it, so it is utterly lost upon you.

You are an ARTHURitarian dictator who claims as fact all manner of rubbish, from _vier_ as Spanish for "four" to Coleridge as author of Wordsworth's "The Idiot Boy". And let's not forget h.l.a.s.'s beloved Idiot Boy's farcical assertion that _тæрин_ is Russian for "youth", that a man traveling from New Haven to Manhattan would board a nonstop flight from Boston to Los Angeles, etc.

In the case of Oxford, the main "hard evidence" is Arundel's accusation, and Cogno's tender behind.
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Alan Green tested the Holy Trinity altar for a secret hidding [sic] place.
Is English your native tongue, Art? Or his, for that matter?
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Meanwhile: Strats refuse to excavate the site of the Globe Theatre.
https://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/30/theater/debate-in-london-on-excavating-where-the-globe-may-have-been.html
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(2) Keeps repeating the *same* conclusively refuted
idiotic crap oVER and oVER and oVER,...
At least the stuff I repeat comes from MSNBC not FOX.
Lea wrote: <<Really, Art?!>>
I neVER said that EVERything I state *COMES^ from MSNBC.
Please give a few examples of things that you've posted here that come from MSNBC, Art.
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(3) Wantonly disregards the expertise of specialists who have
spent their lives in the careful study of a certain subject.
Specialists who have spent their lives
in the careful study of their Bottom lines.
<<The remuneration of academic Shakespeare scholars is based upon the quality
and quantity of their intellectual work, not upon whateVER conclusions they
may reach.>>
That's a good one, Dave!
It's a fact, Art. It's a pity that you have so little idea how a uniVERsity operates.
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The eye of man hath not heard, the ear of man hath not seen,
<<Of course not, Art -- one *cannot* detect the shape of a drum by ear, even a perfect one.
Wasn't that the thesis of your paper?
One of them.
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man's hand is not able to taste, his tongue to conceive,
Lea wrote: <<There's your problem, Art.>>
...well, one of them, at any rate...
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After some practice...
I did finally figured out how sex works
Is that what you've been doing with Brenda James, Art?
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somr [sic] time ago, Dave.
Is English your native tongue, Art?
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nor his heart to report, what my dream was.
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(4) Thinks (Neuendorffer disclaimer) that a Deep State
(or perhaps Deep Strat) cabal is out to get him.
I've nEVER considered Strats as anything but *SHALLOW.*
Lea wrote: <<That's your loss, Art.
Incidentally, Art, are you planning to attend this year's Oxfordian nutfest?
Now that such assemblies (or in this particular case, ASSemblies) are
perforce (or in this particular case, perfarce) virtual, you have *no excuse*
not to participate -- you wouldn't even have to ride the train to Baltimore!
It's true that you would not get to enjoy Mr. Streitz's legendary banquet
entertainment (no virtual inflated pig bladders, alas), but you could still
renew your old friendships with Marty Hyatt, Nina Green, Dr. antiStratnutter,
Mr. Streitz, Stephanie Caruana, etc. As a bonus, "Zoom" is an anagram of
_mozo_, a Spanish translation of the Ossetian word _тæрин_! How could you
possibly pass up such an opportunity, Art?>>
I'm already virtually ignored.
That's all to the good, Art -- it means that I don't have to worry about your health and well-being. Indeed, the fact that even the most demented among your Oxfordian coreligionists discreetly cross to the other side of the street when they see you coming with that "URL by T. Ross" draped around your neck means that social distancing takes care of itself in your case.

Here's an idea, Art -- you could Zoom-bomb the proceedings! You could interrupt Dr. antiStratnutter's latest literary lunacy with your *own* lunacy! You would have a captive audience! How can you pass up such an opportunity, Art?!
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