Discussion:
eagerly pursuing Brenda James
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Arthur Neuendorffer
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(And are you a committee member this year?)
Lea wrote:

<<I am not permitted by my vow of obedience to comment upon personnel matters, Art.>>
What about your vows of poVERty,
Lea wrote:

<<You don't think that we are paid a living wage, do you, Art?! The Trust has good intentions, of course, but its resources are limited.>>

You trust them?
chastity,
Lea wrote:

<<I'm not the one who has been eagerly pursuing Brenda James, Art; you are.>>

I was just trying to email her about
*Henry Neville* ciphers she might not be familiar with.
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Brenda James's *Henry Neville* :
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_Henry Neville and The SHAKEspeare Code_
Review by P. G. Taylor (Sutton Courtenay, England)
http://www.scripophily.net/cornevisbrid.html
.
<<The code referred to here is in the 144 letter
dedication to the first edition of SHAKEspeare's sonnets:
.
. TOTHEO..-- *N* __..LIEBEGET
. TEROFT.._- *H* __..ESEINSVI
. NGSONN.. *E* __..TSMRWHAL
. LHAPPI..__- *N* __..ESSEANDT
. HATETE.._-- *R* __..NITIEPRO
. MISEDB.._-- *Y* __..OVREVERL
. IVING..__- *POET* __..WISHET
.
It took Brenda James years to figure it out!
.
Henry Neville's own nickname was Falstaff - and he himself was fat!
The first time Falstaff ever appeared in a play by SHAKEspeare
he was called "Oldcastle", a pun on Ne Ville - New Town. Neville
spent nearly 3 years in the Tower of London with Southampton,
to whom the sonnets are dedicated Southampton is the Mr W.H.
in the dedication. He is called Mr, because he lost
the title of Earl when he was put in the Tower.>>
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[N HENRY] (or [HENRY N]) in Sonnets Ded. any skip: Prob. ~1 in 3,100
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1596 (= 114 x 14) *LINES* in first 114 Sonnets
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_______ Sonnet 115
.
1597 THose *LINES* that I before haue writ doe lie,
1598 Euen those that said I could not love you deerer,
1599 Yet the[N] my iudgement knew no reason wh[Y],
1600 My most full flame should afte[R]wards burne cleerer.
.
1601 But recke[N]ing time, whose milliond accid[E]nts
1602 Creepe in twixt vowes, and c[H]ange decrees of Kings,
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______ <= 26 =>
.
. Y e t t h e [N] m y i u d g e m e n t k n e w n o r e
. a s o n w h [Y],M y m o s t f u l l f l a m e s h o u
. l d a f t e [R] w a r d {S} b u r n e c l e e r e r.B u
. t r e c k e [N] i n g t {I} m e,w h o s e m i l l i o n
. d a c c i d [E] n t s C {R} e e p e i n t w i x t v o w
. e s a n d c [H] a n g e d e c r e e s o f K i n g s,
.
{SIR} 26
[HENRY N] -26
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{SIR} [HENRY N]eville was knighted in 1597:
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1603 Tan sacred beautie, blunt the sharp'st intents,
1604 Diuert strong mindes to th' course of altring things:

1605 Alas why fearing of times tiranie,
1606 Might I not then say now I love you best,
1607 When I was certaine ore in-certainty,
1608 Crowning the present, doubting of the rest:

1609 Loue is a Babe, then might I not say so
1610 To giue full growth to that which still doth grow.
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_______ Sonnet 149
.
CAnst thou O cruell, say I love thee not,
When I against my selfe with thee pertake:
Doe I not thinke on t[H]ee when I forgot
Am of my selfe, all tirant for thy sake?
.
Who hateth th[E]e that I doe call my friend,
On whom froun'st thou that I doe faune vpo[N],
{N}ay if thou lowrst on me doe I not spend
Reuenge vpon m{Y} selfe with p[R]esent mone?
.
What merrit do I in my selfe {R}espect,
That is so proude th[Y] seruice to dispise,
Whe{N} all my best doth worship thy defect,
Comma[N]ded by th{E} motion of thine eyes.
.
But love hate on for now I know t{H}y minde,
Those that can see thou lou'st, and I am blind.
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CAnst thou O cruell, say I love thee not,
When I against my selfe with thee pertak-
.
_________ <= 49 =>
.
-e-DoeIn-o-tthin-k-eont[H]e-ewhe-n-I-forg-o-t-Amof-m-yself-e-alltira
-n-tfort-h-ysake-W-hoha-t-e-thth[E]e-that-I-d-oeca-l-lmyfr-i-endOnwh
-o-mfrou-n-sttho-u-that-I-d-oefa-u-n-evpo[N|N}ayif-t-houlo-w-rstonme
-d-oeIno-t-spend-R-euen-g-e-vpon-m{Y}self-e-w-ithp[R]esent-m-oneWhat
-m-errit-d-oIinm-y-self-e{R}espe-c-t-That-i-s-sopr-o-udeth[Y]seruice
-t-odisp-i-seWhe{N}allm-y-b-estd-o-t-hwor-s-h-ipth-y-defectComma[N]d
-e-dbyth{E}motio-n-ofth-i-n-eeye-s-B-utlo-v-e-hate-o-nforn-o-wIknowt
{H}ymind-e-Those-t-hatc-a-n-seet-h-o-ulou's-t,andI-a-mblin-d.
.
{HENRY N} -43
[HENRY N] 55
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4 [HENRY N]'s (or [N HENRY]'s) in Sonnets: Prob. ~ 1 in 1,220
.
(With two of these in the same Sonnet: Prob. ~ 1 in 32,000)
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Shakespeare Oxford Newsletter Vol. 51, No. 3: Summer 2015

<<Since college, I've always wondered about who
"Mr. W.H." could be. Recently, I happened to count the
letters and found that there were 144 not counting the
"T.T." at the end. For fun, I tried putting them in a
12x12 square. I saw the name "Ben" and dismissed it as
a fluke, but the letters "ORIW" going down caught my
eye. Even though I went on to trying something else,
those letters brought me back to it and I realized
you could unscramble them to spell the name "H.
Wriotheslie, SH" ("SH" for Southampton, perhaps),
which isn't the modern spelling, but matches the
"onlie" in the dedication. In the grid below,
you can see the contiguous letters:

"To Wriotheslie"

There's an extra "s" in "Wriotheslie"
(perhaps it should be "Wriothesslie").>>

- Mark Stahley, St Paul MN
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___ 12 X 12
.

. T O{T H E O}N L I E(B)E
. G E T T E{R}O F T H(E)S
. E I N S U{I}N G S O(N)N
. E T S M R{W}H A L L H A
. P P I N E{S}S E A N D T
. H A T E T{E}R[N]I T I E
. P R O M I(s|E]D B Y O U
. R E V E R(L|I}V I N G P
. O E T W[I]S H e T H T H
. E W E[L]L W I S H I N G
. A D(V)E N T U R E R I N
. S[E]T T I N G F O R T H
.

TO {THE/ORIW(s)ESL/I} : Prob. ~ 1 in 4000
_ [NE(V)IL(L)E] : Prob. ~ 1 in 2100
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_______ Sonnet 134
.
SO now I hau[E] confest that he is thine,
And I my se[L]fe am morgag'd to thy will,
My selfe I[L]e forfeit, so that other mine,
Thou w[I]lt restore to be my comfort still:
.
B[U]t thou wilt not, nor he will not be fr[E]e,
For thou art couetous, and he is ki[N]de,
He learnd but suretie-like to wr(I)te for me,
Vnder that bo{N}d that him as fast doth binde.
The statute of thy b{E}auty thou wilt take,
Thou vsurer that put'st fort{H} all to vse,
......................................................
_________ <= 29 =>
.
. S O n o w I h a u [E] c o n f e s t t h a t h e i s t h i n
. e,A n d I m y s e [L] f e a m m o r g a g'd t o t h y w i l
. l,M y s e l f e I [L] e f o r f e i t,s o t h a t o t h e r
. m i n e,T h o u w [I] l t r e s t o r e t o b e m{Y}c o m f
. o r t s t i l l:B [U] t t h o u w i l t n o t,n o r h e w i
. l l n o t b{E}f r [E] e,F o r t h o u a r t c o u e t o u s,
. a n d h e i s k i [N] d e,H e l e a{R}n d b u t s u r e t i
. e-l i k e t o w r (I) t e f o r m e,V n d e r t h a t b o{N}
. d t h a t h i m a -s- f a s t d o t h b i n d e T h e s t a
. t u t e o f t h y -b-{E}a u t y t h o u w i l t t a k e,T h
. o u v s u r e r t -h- a t p u t's t f o r t{H}a l l t o v s e,
.
[NEUILLE] -29 {Prob. in any Sonnet ~ 1 in 60}
{HENR(e)Y} -40
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And sue a friend, came debter for my sake,
So him I loose through my vnkinde abuse.
.
Him haue I lost, thou hast both him and me,
He paies the whole, and yet am I not free.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Neville

Armorial of Neville: Gules, a *SALTIRE* argent
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The moon into *SALT TEARS*: the earth's a thief,
- Timon of Athens: IV, iii
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Your *SALT TEARS*' head:
- All's Well that Ends Well: I, iii
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Upon his face an ocean of *SALT TEARS*,
- King Henry VI, part II: III, ii
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Those eyes of thine from mine have drawn *SALT TEARS*,
- King Richard III: I, ii
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Our isle be made a nourish of *SALT TEARS*,
- King Henry VI, part I: I, i
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How came her eyes so bright? not with *SALT TEARS*:
- A Midsummer Night's Dream: II, ii
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Her *SALT TEARS* fell from her, and soften'd the stones;
- Othello: IV, iii
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Drown the lamenting fool in sea-*SALT TEARS*.
- Titus Andronicus: III, ii
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<<Memorial to Thomas Neville, Canterbury Cathedral

1544 to 1614 - a man who was held in affection and trust by his fellow countrymen as a person of culture, integrity and good taste. He achieved considerable status as Master of Trinity College Cambridge and subsequently as Dean of Canterbury Cathedral. Such was the trust and regard in which Neville was held that he was chosen by the Archbishop of Canterbury for the important function of bearing the united greetings of the clergy of England to King James in Scotland on his accession to the throne. When King James visited him at Cambridge in 1614, he stated that he was "proud of such a subject". A contemporary at Cambridge said of him: "he never had his like for a splendid, courteous and bountiful gentleman". With the motto "Ne Vile Velis" Neville was able to embody his personal philosophy in a phrase that incorporated his own name (which he spelt Nevile). Its meaning is essentially: "Nothing distasteful or vulgar".>>
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*The Two Gentlemen of Verona*, Act I Scene 1 (Folio 1, 1623)

VALENTINE: Ceease to perswade, my louing Protheus;
____ Home-keeping youth, haue *EU[ER HO(m)ELY WITS]*
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[ER HO(m)ELY WITS]
[WRIOTHESLEY](m)
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http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/33585

Rare Shakespeare first folio found in French library
Wednesday, November 26th, 2014

<<One of only 233 known copies of the First Folio edition of Shakespeare’s plays has been discovered in the library of Saint-Omer, a small town in northern France 30 miles south of Calais. Missing its telltale title page, the volume was wrongly classified as an 18th century edition. The Saint-Omer copy is also missing the entire text of *The Two Gentlemen of Verona*; the pages were deliberately torn out. There are also annotations that suggest the volume was used for performances. Some of the words are replaced with more modern language, and a character in Henry IV is changed from “hostess” to “host” and from “wench” to “fellow” with utter disregard for iambic pentameter.

The library has had the book in its stacks for 400 years, thanks to its arrangement with the now-defunct college of Jesuits in Saint-Omer which used the city library’s Heritage Room as its own library. Saint-Omer is a small town now, but in the Middle Ages it was an important city with the fourth greatest library in Western Europe. The Jesuit college was founded in the late 16th century when Catholics were forbidden by law to attend college in English. They could just cross the Channel and get an education in France instead, and Saint-Omer was well attended by English Catholics.

One particularly intriguing note is the name “Nevill” written on the first page of The Tempest (also the first page of the book entire since the title pages are gone).>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Neville_%28died_1615%29

<<Sir Henry Neville (1564 – 10 July 1615) was an English courtier, politician and diplomat, noted for his role as ambassador to France and his unsuccessful attempts to negotiate between James I of England and the Houses of Parliament. In 2005 Neville was put forward as a candidate for the authorship of Shakespeare's works.

In December 1584 Neville married Anne Killigrew (died 1632), the daughter of Sir Henry Killigrew (died 1603) and Catherine Cooke, sister-in-law of William Cecil, 1st Baron Burghley, by whom he had Sir Henry Neville (II), 1588–29 June 1629, married Elizabeth Smyth; among his children was Henry Neville (writer).>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Neville_%28writer%29

<<Henry Neville (1620–1694) was an English politician, author and satirist, best remembered for his tale of shipwreck and dystopia, The Isle of Pines published in 1668. In 1651, he was elected to the English Council of State, where he played a part in foreign policy. Later, he was in opposition to Oliver Cromwell, against whom he wrote some political pamphlets.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Isle_of_Pines

<<The Isle of Pines is a book by Henry Neville published in 1668. It has been cited as the first robinsonade before Defoe's work. An example of arcadian fiction, the book presents its story through an Epistolary frame: a "Letter to a friend in London, declaring the truth of his Voyage to the East Indies" written by a fictional Dutchman "Henry Cornelius Van Sloetten," concerning the discovery of an island in the southern hemisphere, populated with the descendants of a small group of castaways.

The book explores the story of these castaways—the British George Pine and four female survivors, who are shipwrecked on an idyllic island. Pine finds that the island produces food abundantly with little or no effort, and he soon enjoys a leisurely existence, engaging in open sexual activity with the four women.

Each of the women gives birth to children, who in turn multiply to produce distinct tribes, by which Pine is seen as the patriarch. One of the women, a black slave girl, gives rise to a tribe called the Phills, who increasingly reject the impositions of laws, rules, and Bible readings which are established in an effort to create some form of social order. Eventually one of the Phills tribe rapes a woman from the stark tribe, starting a civil war. At this point some Dutch explorers arrive, bringing with them guns which are used to quell the uprising.

The narrative is written from the viewpoint of the Dutch explorers and begins with their arrival and the discovery of a primitive white English-speaking native race. The explorers discover that the islanders are the grand and great-grandchildren of George Pine, and that in just three generations the islanders have lost the technological and industrial advantage of their British origins. They later discover that they possess an axe which lay blunt and never sharpened. The island itself is so productive in terms of food and shelter that the islanders leave newborn babies exposed to the elements with no harm.

While the island is bounteous and abundant the narrative raises questions concerning the morality of idleness and dependence on nature. Questions also exist over the status of the piece as utopian literature; elements of utopian writing are apparent, but there are inversions of the usual pattern. Instead of finding an advanced society from which the travellers can learn, the explorers discover a primitive island race in need of rescue from the brink of civil war. Although the island initially seems a paradise of sexual freedom and idyllic plenty, the story is one of dystopia, a devolution into a primitive and crucially unproductive state. The lack of creativity and industry are heightened by the fact that the islanders themselves reproduce in great numbers, leaving in three generations a large population with no scientific or artistic development.

Some critics have pointed to the possibility of Pines deriving from an anagram of penis, alluding to the sexual preoccupation of the early settlers.

The book also has political overtones. Neville was an anti-Stuart republican, and as a political exile he was clearly conscious of the socio-political concerns of the end of the early modern period. The island narrative is framed by the story of the Dutch explorers who are more organized and better equipped than the English voyage of three generations earlier, and who are needed to rescue a small English colonial nation-state from chaos. It is interesting to note that the book was written at the end of the Second Anglo-Dutch War.>>
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. last lines of Hamlet (Q1 1603)
.
*PRINCE FORTINBRAS*:
. I have some rights of memory to this kingdome,
. Which now to claime my leisure doth inV{I}te mee:
. Let fo{U}re of our chi{E}fest Captai{N}es
. Bear[E] Ham{L}et like a sou{L}dier to his grav[E]:
. For he was likely, had he lived,
. To a p[R]ov'd most royall.
. Take up the bodie, such a sight as this
. Becomes the fieldes, but here doth much amisse.
..............................................
. <= 11 =>
,
. W h i c h n o w t o c
. l a i m e m y l e i s
. u r e d o t h i n V {I}
. t e m e e:L e t f o {U}
. r e o f o u r c h i {E}
. f e s t C a p t a i {N}
. e s B e a r[E]H a m {L}
. e t l i k e a s o u {L}
. d i e r t o h i s g r
. a v[E]F o r h e w a s
. l i k e l y,h a d h e
. l i v e d,T o a p[R] o
. v'd m o s t r o y a l l.
.
{LL-NEUI} Prob. at end ~ 1 in 1660
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. *PRINCE FORTINBRAS*
.
. F S
. R I
. B A C O N
. P R I N T E R
.
. SIR FRANCIS BACON, PRINTER
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http://www.sirbacon.org/nmsaunders.htm

THE NORTHUMBERLAND MANUSCRIPT AND
A REMARKABLE DISCOVERY BY SIMON MILES
by Walter Saunders 2007

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Nevill / ne vile velis 2
(Sir Henry Nevil: Bacon's nephew & Southampton's cellmate.)

By Mr ffrauncis Bacon 2
Anthony Comfort and consorte (an allusion to Anthony Bacon)
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. Nevill, Nevill, *NE VILE Velis* .
. Multis annis iam transactis
. Nulla fides est in pactis
. Mell in ore Verba lactis
. *f(FEL)l* in Corde ffraus in factis
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. *Cunnin* in heart and false in practice.
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___ King Henry IV, part II > Act III, scene II
.
SHALLOW: I commend you well. *FRANCIS FEEBLE* !
.
*FEEBLE* : HERE , sir.
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Probability of *FEEBLE* showing up in the first
line of the Sonnet's dedication: ~ 1 in 1,000,000
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. t{O}.th[E].on[L]ie.[B]eg[E]tt[E]r.o[F].
.
. [F]er[E]tt[E]ge[B]ei[L]on[E]ht{O}t
.
. [F]ee[B]le{O}
- r__- a
. a__. c
. n__ o
. c__- n
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. s
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. (Only Sonnet *FEEBLE*) Sonnet 7
.
But when from high-most pich with wery car,
Like *FEEBLE* age [H]e reeleth from the day,
Th[E] eyes (fore dutious) now co[N]uerted are
From his low t[R]act and looke an other wa[Y]:
.
So thou, thy selfe out-goi[N]g in thy noon:
Vnlok'd on diest vnlesse thou get a sonne.
...............................................
. <= 21 =>
.
. L i k e*F E E B L E*a g e [H] e r e e l e t
. h f r o m t h e d a y T h [E] e y e s(f o r
. e d u t i o u s)n o w c o [N] u e r t e d a
. r e F r o m h i s l o w t [R] a c t a n d l
. o o k e a n o t h e r w a [Y]:S o t h o u t
. h y s e l f e o u t g o i [N] g i n t h y n
. o o n:V n l o k'd o n d i (e) s t v n l e s
. s e t h o u g e t a s o n n e

[HENRY N(e)] 21
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The Queen's Cipher - David Taylor

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themanyfavorswehavereceived fromyourLL
wearefalneupontheillfortune tomingle
twothemostdiversethingsthat canbeefear e
andrashnesserashnesseinthee nterprizea n d
feareofthesuccesseForwhenwe valewthepl a cesyourHH
sustainewecannotbutknowthei rdignitygr e aterthentodescendto
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untotheirparentThereisagrea tdifferenc [E] vvhetheranyBooke
choosehisPatronesorfindethe mThishathd [O] nebothFor
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bleofferofhisplayestoyourmo stnoblepat r onageWhereinas
wehavejustlyobservednomanto comeneerey [O] urLLbutvvith
akindofreligiousaddresseith athbintheh [E] ightofourcarewho
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myLordsWecannotgobeyondouro wnepowersC [O] untryhands
reachfoorthmilkecreamefruit esorwhatth [E] yhaveandmany
Nationswehaveheardthathadno tgummes&in {C} enseobtai
nedtheirrequestswithaleaven edCakeItvv {A} snofaulttoapproach
theirGodsbywhatmeanestheyco uldAndthem {O} stthough
meanestofthingsaremademorep reciouswhe {N} theyarededicated
toTemplesInthatnametherefor ewemosthum {B} lyconsecrateto
yourHHtheseremainesofyourse rvant [SHAKESPEARE] that
whatdelightisinthemmaybeeve ryourLLthe r eputation
histhefaultsoursifanybecomm ittedbyapa y resocarefullto
shewtheirgratitudebothtothe livingandt h edeadasis
YourLordshippesmostbounden

{BACON} anagram adjacent to a [SHAKESPEARE] Prob. ~ 1 in 1400.
[E.O. (by) E.O.]
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dead, to procure his Orphanes, Guardians; vvithout ambitio{N} ei
iher of selfe-profit, or fame: onely to keepe the memor{Y} of so worthy
a Friend, & Fellow alive, as was our S H A K E S P E A{R}E , by hum
ble offer of his playes, to your most noble patro{N}age. Wherein, as
we have justly observed, no man to come ne{E}re your L.L. but vvith
a kind of religious addresse; it hat{H} bin the height of our care,
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. <= 46 =>
.
. toprocurehisOrphanesGuardiansvvitho utambiti o{N(e)}
. iiherofselfeprofitorfameonelytokeep ethememo r{Y}O]
. fsoworthyaFriendFellowaliveaswasour[SHAKESPE A{R}E]
. byhumbleofferofhisplayestoyourmostn oblepatr[O{N}a
. geWhereinaswehavejustlyobservednoma ntocomen[E{E}r
. eyourLLbutvvithakindofreligiousaddr esseitha t{H}b
. intheheightofourcare
.
{HENRY N(e)} -46 : Prob. anywhere ~ 1 in 645
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. The Original 1590 quarto edition!
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http://tinyurl.com/pma5gmz
http://tinyurl.com/nsvfzdm
.
The Covntesse of Pembrokes Arcadia,
. written by Sir Philippe [SIDNEI].
.
London, Printed (For) William Ponsonbie,
. Anno Domini, 1590.
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Mr. Edw. Dyer "bore the canopy" {For}[SIDNEI]:

http://tinyurl.com/ptpxsdu
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. Sonnet 125

. WEr't ought to me I "bore the canopy",
. With my extern the outward honoring,
. Or layd great bases (For) eternity,
. Which proues more [S]hort then wast or ruining?
. Haue [I] not seene dwellers o{N} f{O}r{M}e {A}n[D] fauor
. Lose all,and more by payi[N]g too much rent
. For compound sw[E]et;Forgoing simple sauor,
. Pitt[I]full thriuors in their gazing spent.
. Noe,let me be obsequious in thy heart,
. And take thou my oblacion,poore but free,
. Which is not mixt with seconds,knows no art,
. But mutuall render onely me for thee.
. Hence,thou subbornd Informer, a trew soule
. When most impeacht,stands least in thy controule.
.......................................................
. <= *26* =>
.
. O r l a y d g r e a t b a s e s(F o r) e t e r n i t
. y W h i c h p r o u e s m o r e[S]h o r t t h e n w
. a s t o r r u i n i n g?H a u e[I]n o t s e e n e d
. w e l l e r s o{N}f{O}r{M}e{A}n{D}f a u o r L o s e
. a l l,a n d m o r e b y p a y i[N]g t o o m u c h r
. e n t F o r c o m p o u n d s w[E]e t;F o r g o i n
. g s i m p l e s a u o r,P i t t[I]f u l l t h r i u
. o r s i n t h e i r g a z i n g s p e n t

(For)[SIDNEI] *26*
{DAMON} -2
----------------------------------------------------------------
. Hamlet (First Folio, 1623) Act II, scene ii

Hamlet: What a piece of worke is a man! how Noble in
. Reason? how infinite in faculty? i{N} f{O}r{M}e {A}n{D} mouing
. how expresse and admirable? in Action, how like an An-
. gel? in apprehension, how like a Go[D]? the beauty of the
. world, the P[A]rragon of Animals; and yet to [M]e, what is
. this Quintessence [O]f Dust? Man delights not me; no,
. [N]or Woman neither; though by your smiling you seeme
. to say so.
.......................................................
. <= 24 =>
.
. W h a t a p i e c e o f w o r k e i s a m a n!h
. o w N o b l e i n R e a s o n?h o w i n f i n i
. t e i n f a c u l t y?i{N}f{O}r{M}e{A}n{D}m o u
. i n g h o w e x p r e s s e a n d a d m i r a b
. l e?i n A c t i o n,h o w l i k e a n A n-g e l?
. i n a p p r e h e n s i o n,h o w l i k e a G o
. [D]?t h e b e a u t y o f t h e w o r l d,t h e P
. [A] r r a g o n o f A n i m a l s;a n d y e t t o
. [M] e,w h a t i s t h i s Q u i n t e s s e n c e
. [O] f D u s t?M a n d e l i g h t s n o t m e;n o,
. [N] o r W o m a n n e i t h e r;t h o u g h b y y
. o u r s m i l i n g y o u s e e m e t o s a y s o.
.
[DAMON] -2,24 : Prob. in speech ~ 1 in 19,300
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Dr. John Rollett points to an actual letter where
Henry Howard refers to Southampton's failure to obtain
for his " *DEAR DAMON* " (Harry Neville) the office of
Secretary of State. - [Notes, _The Truth Will Out_]
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. This Figure, that thou here seest put,
. It vvas for ge[N]tle Shak[E]speare c[U]t:
. VVhere[I]n the Graver had a strife
. vvith Nature, to out-doo the life:
. O, could he but have dravvne his vvit
. As vve{LL I}n brasse, as he hath h{I}t
. Hisface; the Print {V}vould the[N] surpass{E}
. All, that [V]vas ever [I|N} brasse.
. But, since he cannot, Reader, looke
. Not on his picture, but his Booke.
.........................................
. <= 17 =>
.
. O,c o u l d h e b u t h a v e d r
. a v v n e h i s v v i t A s v v e
. {L L I}n b r a s s e,a s h e h a t
. h h{I}t H i s f a c e;t h e P r i
. n t{V}v o u l d t h e[N]s u r p a
. s s{E}A l l,t h a t[V]v a s e v e
. r[I|N}b r a s s e.

[NEUI] 8
[NEVI] 8
{NEVI} -17 : Prob. of 3[NEVI] ~ 1 in 128
.................................................
[NEVI] (Latin) I was spining; weaving, entwining.
------------------------------------------------------
. Hamlet, (Quarto 2, 1604) Act 3, Scene 2
.
Hor. Halfe a share.
.
Ham. A whole one I,
. For thou dost know: Oh *DAMON DEERE* ,
. This Realme dismantled was of Iove himselfe,
. And [N|O|W) reig{N|E|S) he(E)r{E}.
. A *[V]ER(I)E {V|E)R[I]E (P)a{I|O)cke*.
...........................................
. <= 7 =>
.
. A n d[N|O|W)r
. e i g{N|E|S)h
. e(E)r{E}A[V]E
. R(I)E{V|E)R[I]
. E(P)a{I|O)c k e
.
(PIE) -7
(E.O.) -7,7
[NEVI] 7,8 : Prob. in last 2 lines ~ 1 in 32,000
...................................................
Hora. You might haue Rim'd.

Ham. Oh good Horatio, Ile take the Ghosts word for
. a thousand pound. Did'st perceiue?

Hora. *VERiE* well my Lord.
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Poets are borne not mad{E}, whe{N} I wo{U}ld p{R}ove
This *TRUTH* , the glad r[E]memberance I must lo[V]e
Of n[EVER] dying Shak[E]speare, who alone,
Is a[R]gument enough to mak[E] that one.
First, that he was a Poet none would {D}oubt, (if only he knew!)
That hard th' {A}pplause of what he sees set out
I{M}printed; where thou hast (I will n{O}t say)
Reader his Workes (for to co{N}trive a Play:

[E.VERE] 18
{DAMON} 27
---------------------------------------------
. Sonnet 21

So is it not with me as with that Muse,
Stird by a painted beauty to his verse,
Who heauen it selfe for ornament doth vse,
And EVERy faire with his faire [D]oth reherse,

M[A]king a coo{P}el[M]ent of proud c[O]mpare
With Su[N]ne and Moone, with earth and se{A}s rich gems:
With Aprills first borne flowers and all things ra{R}e,
That heauens ayre in this huge rondure hems,

O let me t[R]ue in lo{V|E] but trul[Y] write,
An[D] then bel[E]eue me, my love is as faire,
As any m{O}thers childe, though not so bright
As those gould candells fixt in heauens ayer:

Let them say more that like of heare-say well,
I will not prayse that purpose not to sell.

[DAMON] 12
{PARVO} 52
[E.DYER] -8
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_______ Sonnet 102

MY LOVE IS Strengthned though more weake in seeming
I love not lesse, thogh lesse the show appeare,
That love is marchandiz'd, whose ritch esteeming,
The owners tongue *DOTH PUBLI(S)H {EVER[Y] WH}E)re* .
Ou[R] lov(E) was [N]ew, an(D) th[E]n but in t[H]e spring,
{WH}en I was wont to greet it with my laies,
As Philomell in summers front doth singe,
And stops his pipe in growth of riper daies:
.
Not that the summer is lesse pleasant now
Then when her mournefull himns did hush the night,
But that wild musick burthens *EVERy bow* ,
And sweets growne common loose their deare delight.
.
Therefore like her, I some-time hold my tongue:
Because I would not dull you wiTH MY SONGE.
..................................................
Ferris (9 x 57) *perfect* Sonnet array:
.
. <= 9 =>
.
. M Y L O V E I S S
......................
......................
. D O T H P U B L I
. (S)H{E V E R[Y]W H}
. (E)r_e O u[R]
. (E)w a s[N] l o v
. (D)t h[E] e w a n
. -n-t[H] n b u t i
. -g{W H} e s p r i n
. e n I w a s
......................
......................
. T H M Y S O N G E
.
[W., HENRY] -8
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_______ Sonnet 11

AS fast as thou shalt wane so fast thou grow'st,
In one of thine, from that which thou depar(TEST),
And that fresh bloud which yongly thou bestow'st,
Thou maist call thine, when thou from [Y]outh conuer(TEST),

Herein liues wisdome, beauty, and inc[R]ease,
Without this follie, age, and could decay,
If all we[R]e minded so, the times should cease,
And threescoore ye[A]re would make the world away:

Let those whom nature hat[H] not made for store,
Harsh, featurelesse, and rude, barre[N]ly perrish,
Looke whom she best indow'd, she gaue the more;
Which bountious guift thou shouldst in bounty cherrish,

. She caru'd thee for her seale, and ment therby,
. *Thou shouldst PRINT MORE, not let that coppy die*.
...............................................
______ <= 45 =>
.
. ASfastasth o ushaltwane sofa s ttho ugrowstInoneoft
. hinefromth a twhichthou depa r(TEST)Andthatfreshblo
. udwhichyon g lythoubest owst T houm aistcallthinewh
. enthoufrom [Y] outhconuer(TEST)H erei nliueswisdomebe
. autyandinc [R] easeWithou tthi s foll ieageandcouldde
. cayIfallwe [R] emindedsot heti m essh ouldceaseAndthr
. eescooreye [A] rewouldmak ethe w orld awayLetthosewho
. mnaturehat [H] notmadefor stor e Hars hfeaturelessean
. drudebarre [N] lyperrish

[N., HARRY] -45
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. King Richard III Act 1, Scene 1

GLOUCESTER: Now, by Saint Paul, this news is bad indeed.
. O, he hath kept *AN EVIL* diet long,
. And overmuch consumed his royal person:
. 'Tis very grievous to be thought upon.
. What, is he in his bed?
------------------------------------------------------
. The Merchant of Venice Act 1, Scene 3

ANTONIO: Mark you this, Bassanio,
. The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
. *AN EVIL* soul producing holy witness
. Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
. A goodly apple rotten at the heart:
. O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!
------------------------------------------------------
. Measure for Measure Act 2, Scene 3

JULIET: I do repent me, as it is *AN EVIL*,
. And take the shame with joy.
------------------------------------------------------------
. King Henry VI, Part iii Act 5, Scene 6

KING HENRY VI: The owl shriek'd at thy birth,--*AN EVIL* sign;
. The night-crow cried, aboding luckless time;
. Dogs howl'd, and hideous tempest shook down trees;
. The raven rook'd her on the chimney's top,
. And chattering pies in dismal discords sung.
------------------------------------------------------
. The Comedy of Errors Act 3, Scene 2

LUCIANA: Shame hath a bastard fame, well managed;
. Ill deeds are doubled with *AN EVIL* word.

. Act 4, Scene 3

DROMIO OF SYRACUSE: he that goes in the calf's
. skin that was killed for the Prodigal; he that came
. behind you, sir, like *AN EVIL* angel, and bid you
. forsake your liberty.
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. Othello, The Moor of Venice Act 1, Scene 1

BRABANTIO: It is too true *AN EVIL*: gone she is;
. And what's to come of my despised time
. Is nought but bitterness.
------------------------------------------------------
. The Tempest Act 1, Scene 2

PROSPERO: I, thus neglecting worldly ends, all dedicated
. To closeness and the bettering of my mind
. With that which, but by being so retired,
. O'er-prized all popular rate, in my false brother
. Awaked *AN EVIL* nature; and my trust,
. Like a good parent, did beget of him
. A falsehood in its contrary as great
. As my trust was; which had indeed no limit,
. A confidence sans bound. He being thus lorded,
. Not only with what my revenue yielded,
. But what my power might else exact, like one
. Who having into truth, by telling of it,
. Made such a sinner of his memory,
. To credit his own lie, he did believe
. He was indeed the duke; out o' the substitution
. And executing the outward face of royalty,
. With all prerogative: hence his ambition growing--
. Dost thou hear?
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Neville is prominent in the Northumberland Manuscript
along with other probable conspirators:

1) Mr ffrauncis Bacon
2) {T}homas {NASHE} and
3) Sir [E]dward [DYER] {Rosicrucian}

The Northumberland Manuscript suggestive _Rape of Lucrece_ 'quote':
.......................................................
http://www.sirbacon.org/nmfacbig%20copy.jpg
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Neville_%28dean%29
..............................................................
http://www.orientalrugsofbath.com/orbnevil.htm

<<*NE VILE Velis* was originally the personal motto of Thomas Neville,
who lived from 1544 to 1614 - a man who was held in affection and
trust by his fellow countrymen as a person of culture, integrity
and good taste. He achieved status as Master of Trinity College
Cambridge and subsequently as Dean of Canterbury Cathedral. Such was
the trust and regard in which Neville was held that he was chosen by
the Archbishop of Canterbury for the important function of bearing the
united greetings of the clergy of England to King James in Scotland
on his accession to the throne. When King James visited him at
Cambridge in 1614, he stated that he was "proud of such a subject".
A contemporary at Cambridge said of him: "he never had his like
for a splendid, courteous and bountiful gentleman".

With the motto *NE VILE Velis* ("nothing distasteful or vulgar")
Neville was able to embody his personal philosophy in a phrase
that incorporated his own name (which he spelt *NE VILE*).

Alan Webb, proprietor of Oriental Rugs of Bath comments:
"Thomas Neville created a model for the qualities of good taste
and standards of conduct that are singularly worth perpetuating.
Although the passage of time has made him less widely known,
I feel that his personal qualities make him worthy of emulation".>>
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{T.NEVILE} kneeling on two toned cushion with tassels:
..........................................
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2636709
http://www.hollowaypages.com/images/STRATF.JPG
---------------------------------------------------
. *NE VILE VELIS* ( *NOT VILE IS THY WILL* )
.
http://www.philological.bham.ac.uk/owen/2eng.html
.
The Epigrammata of John Owen (Ioannis Audoenus) (1606-1613)
.
66 (33 X 2) THE MOTTO OF SIR [HENRY NEVIL] HIS SON-IN-LAW.
. NE VILE VELIS (NOT VILE IS THY WILL)
.
Neville, thy will ne-vile, or vain brings brings forth:
Sith vile things little, vain are Nothing worth.
------------------------------------------------------------
<<the Northumberland MS. was discovered in 1867 in
. an old black box of papers at Northumberland House>>
.
. http://www.baconscipher.com/North1.html
. http://home.att.net/~tleary/northclb.htm
. http://www.sirbacon.org/links/northumberland.html
. http://www.sirbacon.org/northumberlandmanuscriptfa.htm
.
<<At the top of the right-hand column stands the name "Mr. ffrancis
Bacon," followed by the list of "Praises," which again is succeeded
by what Mr. Spedding has called the table of contents. At the top
of the left-hand column stands the name of Nevill, twice written,
and not far below it is the punning motto of the Nevill family,
.
. *NE VILE Velis*
.
"Perhaps,'' says Mr. Burgoyne, "this gives a clue to the original
ownership of the volume as it seems to indicate that the collection
was written for or was the property of some member of the Nevill
family." It is suggested that this was Sir [HENRY NEVIL]
(1564- 1615), Bacon's nephew, and a friend of Essex.>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis

<<(OUTIS) (Ancient Greek ??t??, in capitals ????S, from ??t?? "nobody" or "no one")
is an often used pseudonym. Artists, writers and others in public life use this
pseudonym in order to hide their identity. The Latin equivalent Nemo is also often
used. "??t??" was used as a pseudonym by the Homeric hero Odysseus, when he fought
the Cyclops Polyphemus, and had put out the monster's eye. Polyphemus shouted in
pain to the other Cyclopes of the island that "Nobody" was trying to kill him,
so no one came to his rescue.

The name Nobody can be found in five different lines of the Odyssey, book 9:
..............................................................
First of all in line 366: "'Cyclops, you asked my noble name, and I will tell it;
but do you give the stranger's gift, just as you promised. My name is Nobody.
Nobody I am called by mother, father, and by all my comrades.'

"So I spoke, and from a ruthless heart he straightway answered:
'Nobody I eat up last, after his comrades; all the rest first;
and that shall be the stranger's gift for you.'

Then in line 408: "Then in his turn from out the cave big Polyphemus answered:
'Friends, Nobody is murdering me by craft. Force there is none. But answering him in
winged words they said: If nobody harms you when you are left alone, illness which
comes from mighty Zeus you cannot fly. But make your prayer to your father, lord Poseidon".

In line 455: "Are you sorry
because that wicked Nobody brought your master down with drink and blinded him?".

And in line 460:
"I should thus have some revenge for the harm that no-good Nobody has done me".
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_______ Sonnet 11

AS fast as thou shalt wane so fast thou grow'st,
In one of thine, from that which thou depar(TEST),
And that fresh bloud which yongly thou bestow'st,
Thou maist call thine, when thou from [Y]outh conuer(TEST),

Herein liues wisdome, beauty, and inc[R]ease,
Without this follie, age, and could decay,
If all we[R]e minded so, the times should cease,
And threescoore ye[A]re would make the world away:

Let those whom nature hat[H] not made for store,
Harsh, featurelesse, and rude, barre{N}ly perrish,
Looke whom she best indow'd, she gaue the mor{e};
Which bountiou(S) gu(I)ft (T)ho(U) sh(O)uldst in bounty cherrish,

. She caru'd thee for her seale, and ment therby,
. *Thou shouldst PRINT MORE, not let that coppy die*.
.........................................................
______ <= 45 =>
.
. ASfastasth o ushaltwane sof a s t t ho u gr o ws t Inoneoft
. hinefromth a twhichthou dep a r(T E ST)A nd t ha t freshblo
. udwhichyon g lythoubest ows t T h o um a is t ca l lthinewh
. enthoufrom [Y] outhconuer(TES T) H e r ei n li u es w isdomebe
. autyandinc [R] easeWithou tth i s f o ll i ea g ea n dcouldde
. cayIfallwe [R] emindedsot het i m e s sh o ul d ce a seAndthr
. eescooreye [A] rewouldmak eth e w o r ld a wa y Le t thosewho
. mnaturehat [H] notmadefor sto r e H a rs h fe a tu r elessean
. drudebarre [N] lyperrishL ook e w h o ms h eb e st i ndowdshe
. gauethemor {e};Whichbount iou(S) g u(I)ft(T)ho(U)sh(O)uldstinb

[{Ne}, HARRY] -45 : Prob. ~ 1 in 17
(OUTIS) -3
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_______ Sonnet 67

AH wherefore with infection should he liue,
And with his presence grace impietie,
That sinne by him aduantage should atchiue,
And lace it selfe with his societie?

Why should false painting immitate his cheeke,
And steale dead seeing of his liuing hew?
Why should poore beautie indirectly seeke,
Roses of shaddow, since his Rose is true?

Why should h[E LIVE, N]ow Nature banckr(OUT IS),
Beggerd of blood to blush through liuely vaines,
For she hath no exchecker now but his,
And proud of many, liues vpon his gaines?

O him she stores, to show what welth she had,
In daies long since, before these last so bad.

[NE VILE] -1
(OUTIS) 1
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THE GOLDEN ASSE: THE FORTY-EIGHTH CHAPTER
http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/ga/ga49.htm

THE FORTY-SIXTH CHAPTER

How a certaine Matron fell in love with Apuleius, how hee
had his pleasure with her, and what other things happened.
................................................................
................................................................
*the last sentence in chapter*

When I perceived that no man had regard to mee, that
was so tame and gentle an Asse, I stole out of the
gate that was next me, and then I ran away with all
force, and came to Cenchris, which is the most
famous towne of all the Carthaginians, bordering

upon the Seas call[E]d Ageum, and
Saronicum, whe[R]e is a great
and mighty Hav[E]n, frequented
with many a s[U]ndry Nation.
There becaus[E] I would avoyd
the multitu[D]e of the people,
I went to a s[E]cret place of the Sea coast,

where I laid me down upon the sand, to ease and
refresh my selfe, for the day was past and the
Sunne gone downe, and lying in this sort
on the ground, did fall in a sound sleepe.
.
[EDEUERE] -22 : Prob. in any last sentence ~ 1 in 40
------------------------------------------------------
THE GOLDEN ASSE: THE FORTY-EIGHTH CHAPTER
http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/ga/ga49.htm

THE FORTY-EIGHTH CHAPTER

How the parents and friends of Apuleius
heard news that he was alive and in health.
................................................................
................................................................
*the last 6 paragraphs*

the gods supernall doe honour thee the gods infernall have thee
in r{EVERE}nc[E]: {Thou} environest all the worl[D], {Thou}
givest light to the Sunn[E], {Thou} governest the world, tho[U]
treadest downe the power of h[E]ll: By thy meane the times
retu[R]ne, the Planets rejoyce, the [E]lements serve:
........................................................
_____ <= 25 =>
.
. t h e g o d s s u p e r n a l l d o e h o n o u r

. t h e e t h e g o d s i n f e r n a l l h a v e t
. h e e i n r{E V E R E}n c [E] {T h o u}e n v i r o n
. e s t a l l{t h e(W)o r l [D]}{T h o u}g i v e s t l
. i g h t t o{t h e(S)u n n [E]}{T h o u}g o v e r n e
. s t t h e w o r l d{T h o [U]} T r e a d e s t d o w
. n e t h e p o w e r o f h [E] l l:B y t h y m e a n
. e t h e t i m e s r e t u [R] n e,t h e P l a n e t
. s r e j o y c e,t h e E l [E] m e n t s s e r v e:
.
[EDEUERE] 25 : Prob. in last 6 paragraphs ~ 1 in 190
................................................................
................................................................
*the last paragraph*

After this sort, the divine majesty perswaded me in my sleepe, whereupon by and by I went towards the Priest, and declared all that which I had seene, then I fasted ten dayes according to the custome, and of mine owne proper will I abstained longer then I was commanded: an[D VERE]ly I did nothi{N}g repent of the paine which I had taken, and of th{E} charges which I was at, considering that the di{V}ine providence had given me such an order, *that {I} gained much money in pleading of causes*: Final{L}y after a few dayes, the great god Osiris appear{E}d to me in the night, not disguised in any other forme, but in his owne essence, commanding me that I should be *an Advocate in the court*, and not feare the slander and envie of ill persons, which BEARE me stomacke and grudge by reason of my doctrine, which I had gotten by much labour: moreover, he would not that I should be any longer of the number of his Priests, but he allotted me to be one of the Decurions and Senatours: and after he appointed me a place within the ancient pallace, which was erected in the time of Silla, where I executed my office in great joy with a shaven Crowne.
...................................................................................
. <= 39 =>
.
a n[D V E R E]l y I d i d n o t h i{N} g r e p e n t o f t h e p a i n e w h i
c h I h a d t a k e n,a n d o f t h{E} c h a r g e s w h i c h I w a s a t,c o
n s i d e r i n g t h a t t h e d i{V} i n e p r o v i d e n c e h a d g i v e
n m e s u c h a n o r d e r,t h a t{I} g a i n e d m u c h m o n e y i n p l e
a d i n g o f c a u s e s:F i n a {L L} y a f t e r a f e w d a y e s,t h e g r
e a t g o d O s i r i s a p p e a r{E} d t o m e i n t h e n i g h t

{NE VI(L)LE} 39 : Prob. in last paragraph ~ 1 in 1635
---------------------------------------------------------------------
. Francis Meres's _Palladis Tamia, Wits Treasury_ (1598):
.
As Euripedes is the most sententious among the Greek Poets: so
is Warner amo[N]g our English Poets. As the soul[E] of *EUPHORBUS*
was thought to li[V]e in *PYTHAGORAS*: so the sweete w[I]ttie soule
of Ovid lives in mel[L]ifluous and HONY-TONGUED *SHAK[E]SPEARE*
, witnes his Venus and Adonis, his Lucrece,
his sugred Sonnets among his private friends, &c.
................................................................
__________ <= 26 =>

. s o i s W a r n e r a m o{N} g o u r E n g l i s h P
. o e t s.A s t h e s o u l{E} o f *E U P H O R B U S*w
. a s t h o u g h t t o l i{V} e i [N]*P Y T H A G O R A
. S*s o t h e s w e e t e w{I} t t [I] e s o u l e o f O
. v i d l i v e s i n m e {L L} i f [L] u o u s a n d h o
. n y-t o n g u e d *S H A K{E} S P [E] A R E*
.
{NE VILE} 26
[NILE] 26
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http://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/doc/PP_O2/complete/

THE PASSIONATE PILGRIME. By W. Shakespeare.

Printed for W. Iaggard, and are to be sold by W. Leake,
at the Greyhound in Paules Churchyard. 1599.

# 13 (In the same 6-line stanza format as Venus & Adonis.)

BEauty is but a vaine and doubtfull good,
A shining glosse, that vadeth sodainly,
A flower that dies, when first it gins to bud,
A brittle glasse, that s broken presently.
A doubtfull good, a glosse, a glasse, a flower,
Lost, vaded, broken, dead within an houre.
A{N}d as goods lost, are s{E}ld or never found,
As {V}aded glosse no rubb{I}ng will refresh:
As f{L}owers dead, lie with{E}red on the ground,
As broken glasse no symant can redresse.
So beauty blemisht once, for ever lost,
In spite of phisicke, painting, paine and cost.
................................................
. <= 17 =>
.
. A {N} d a s g o o d s l o s t,a r e
. s {E} l d o r n e v e r f o u n d,A
. s {V} a d e d g l o s s e n o r u b
. b {I} n g w i l l r e f r e s h:A s
. f {L} o w e r s d e a d,l i e w i t
. h {E} r e d o n t h e g r o u n d,

{NE VILE} 17
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Piers Gaveston II by Michael Drayton
https://www.poetrynook.com/poem/piers-gaveston

Which they to purpose prosp'rously effect,
Then at full strength, to counterpoyse his force,
Ha{V}ing w{I}thal{L} the C{L}ergi{E} to direct,
Them th[E] best way, in their resistlesse course,
Til[L] at the last King EDWARD they procure,
By so[L]emne Oath Me ever to abjure.
Th'uncertaiNE [I]ssue of each earthly thing,
Set out most li[V]ely in my star-crost State,
That doth remai[NE] in Fortunes managing,
Appearing in my variable *FATE*:
On Me that frown'd and flatt'red Me so oft,
Casting Me downe, then setting Me aloft.
................................................
. <= 35 =>
.
. Ha {V} ingw{I}thal{L}theC{L}ergi{E}todirectThem
. th [E] best w ayin t heir r esis t lessecourseT
. il [L] atth e last K ingE D WARD t heyprocureBy
. so [L] emne O athM e ever t oabj u reThuncertai
. NE [I] ssue o feac h eart h lyth i ngSetoutmost
. li [V] elyi n myst a rcro s tSta t eThatdothrem
. ai [NE] inF o rtun e sman a ging A ppearinginmy
. va r iabl e*FATE*

[NE/VILLE] -35
{VILLE} 5
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Art Neuendorffer
nordicskiv2
2018-01-09 00:51:12 UTC
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Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
(And are you a committee member this year?)
<<I am not permitted by my vow of obedience to comment upon personnel matters, Art.>>
What about your vows of poVERty,
<<You don't think that we are paid a living wage, do you, Art?! The Trust
has good intentions, of course, but its resources are limited.>>
You trust them?
Of course, Art -- Trust is its VERy name!
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
chastity,
<<I'm not the one who has been eagerly pursuing Brenda James, Art; you are.>>
I was just trying to email her about
*Henry Neville* ciphers she might not be familiar with.
A word to the wise (and to you too, Art): What will happen if St. Carolyn learns that have been emailing Brenda James, and subsequently googles her out of curiosity? Even St. Carolyn's patience is not limitless, so there will be the Neville to pay!
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
..............................................
_Henry Neville and The SHAKEspeare Code_
Review by P. G. Taylor (Sutton Courtenay, England)
http://www.scripophily.net/cornevisbrid.html
.
<<The code referred to here is in the 144 letter
.
. TOTHEO..-- *N* __..LIEBEGET
. TEROFT.._- *H* __..ESEINSVI
. NGSONN.. *E* __..TSMRWHAL
. LHAPPI..__- *N* __..ESSEANDT
. HATETE.._-- *R* __..NITIEPRO
. MISEDB.._-- *Y* __..OVREVERL
. IVING..__- *POET* __..WISHET
.
It took Brenda James years to figure it out!
That's probably because she was sane for most of those years, Art.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
Henry Neville's own nickname was Falstaff - and he himself was fat!
The first time Falstaff ever appeared in a play by SHAKEspeare
he was called "Oldcastle", a pun on Ne Ville - New Town.
But Art -- "Neuendorf" means "new town"!

Incidentally, Art, in what language do you think (usual disclaimer) that the phrase "ne ville" means "new town"? It certainly cannot be English -- indeed, the *only* adjectival sense of _ne_ recorded in the Oxford English Dictionary is _né_, which means "originally called", not "new". The main adVERbial use is as a particle of negation or denial, as in French -- but an adVERbial sense is meaningless here, since there is no VERb for it to modify.

Nor can the tongue be French -- indeed, the word meaning "new" in French is _nouveau_ (or in its feminine form, _nouvelle_), not _ne_. I realize, of course, that your French is, if anything, even worse than your English, impossible though that may seem.

[Crackpot cryptography snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
___ 12 X 12
.
. T O{T H E O}N L I E(B)E
. G E T T E{R}O F T H(E)S
. E I N S U{I}N G S O(N)N
. E T S M R{W}H A L L H A
. P P I N E{S}S E A N D T
. H A T E T{E}R[N]I T I E
. P R O M I(s|E]D B Y O U
. R E V E R(L|I}V I N G P
. O E T W[I]S H e T H T H
. E W E[L]L W I S H I N G
. A D(V)E N T U R E R I N
. S[E]T T I N G F O R T H
.
TO {THE/ORIW(s)ESL/I} : Prob. ~ 1 in 4000
The string "THEORIWESELI [sic]" -- which is moronic nonsense in any case -- does not appear as an equidistant letter sequence of skip 12 -- or indeed, of *any* skip -- in the above text, Art.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
_ [NE(V)IL(L)E]
The string "NEVILLE" does not appear as an equidistant letter sequence of skip 12 -- or indeed, of *any* skip -- in the above text, Art. The string "NELILVE" appears as an equidistant letter sequence of skip 11, but "NELILVE" is meaningless, moronic nonsense.

[Crackpot cryptography snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Neville
Armorial of Neville: Gules, a *SALTIRE* argent
--------------------------------------------------
The moon into *SALT TEARS*: the earth's a thief,
- Timon of Athens: IV, iii
................................................
- All's Well that Ends Well: I, iii
................................................
Upon his face an ocean of *SALT TEARS*,
- King Henry VI, part II: III, ii
................................................
Those eyes of thine from mine have drawn *SALT TEARS*,
- King Richard III: I, ii
................................................
Our isle be made a nourish of *SALT TEARS*,
- King Henry VI, part I: I, i
................................................
- A Midsummer Night's Dream: II, ii
................................................
Her *SALT TEARS* fell from her, and soften'd the stones;
- Othello: IV, iii
................................................
Drown the lamenting fool in sea-*SALT TEARS*.
- Titus Andronicus: III, ii
A saltire has nothing whatever to do with salt tears, Art.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
[ER HO(m)ELY WITS]
[WRIOTHESLEY](m)
That's not an anagram, Art. Moreover, "Er [sic] homely wits" is moronic nonsense.

Have you completely lost your homely wits, Art?! Or did you simply neVER possess any?
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/33585
Rare Shakespeare first folio found in French library
Wednesday, November 26th, 2014
<<One of only 233 known copies of the First Folio edition of Shakespeare’s
plays has been discovered in the library of Saint-Omer,
But Art -- "Saint Omer" is an anagram of "Mason rite"!

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Neville_%28writer%29
<<Henry Neville (1620–1694)
...was was born after Shakespeare's death...
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
was an English politician, author and satirist,
best remembered for his tale of shipwreck and dystopia, The Isle of Pines
published in 1668. In 1651, he was elected to the English Council of State,
where he played a part in foreign policy. Later, he was in opposition to
Oliver Cromwell,
But Art -- "Oliver Cromwell" is an anagram of "I'll lowe Mr. O. C. -- Ver". Of course, "O. C." must be Orazio Cogno. And don't forget that Cromwell was a member of the Rump Parliament!

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. <= 11 =>
,
. W h i c h n o w t o c
. l a i m e m y l e i s
. u r e d o t h i n V {I}
. t e m e e:L e t f o {U}
. r e o f o u r c h i {E}
. f e s t C a p t a i {N}
. e s B e a r[E]H a m {L}
. e t l i k e a s o u {L}
. d i e r t o h i s g r
. a v[E]F o r h e w a s
. l i k e l y,h a d h e
. l i v e d,T o a p[R] o
. v'd m o s t r o y a l l.
.
{LL-NEUI}
"LLNEUI [sic]" is moronic nonsense, Art.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. <= *26* =>
.
. O r l a y d g r e a t b a s e s(F o r) e t e r n i t
. y W h i c h p r o u e s m o r e[S]h o r t t h e n w
. a s t o r r u i n i n g?H a u e[I]n o t s e e n e d
. w e l l e r s o{N}f{O}r{M}e{A}n{D}f a u o r L o s e
. a l l,a n d m o r e b y p a y i[N]g t o o m u c h r
. e n t F o r c o m p o u n d s w[E]e t;F o r g o i n
. g s i m p l e s a u o r,P i t t[I]f u l l t h r i u
. o r s i n t h e i r g a z i n g s p e n t
(For)[SIDNEI] *26*
The string "For Sidnei" does not appear as an equidistant letter sequence of skip 26 -- or indeed, of *any* skip -- in the above text, Art.

It's really a pity that George Mason Elementary was unable to teach you either to read *or* to count, Art!

[Reams of crackpot cryptography snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
---------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter)
Arthur Neuendorffer
2018-01-09 05:15:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
(And are you a committee member this year?)
<<I am not permitted by my vow of obedience
to comment upon personnel matters, Art.>>
You seem to be struggling to find a replacement for liddle Marco.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
What about your vows of poVERty,
<<You don't think that we are paid a living wage, do you, Art?! The
Trust has good intentions, of course, but its resources are limited.>>
You trust them?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art -- Trust is its VERy name!

Indeed:
--------------------------------------------------------
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition_law#United_States_antitrust

<<Trusts first appeared in the US railroads, where the capital requirement of railroad construction precluded competitive services in then scarcely settled territories. This trust allowed railroads to discriminate on rates imposed and services provided to consumers and businesses and to destroy potential competitors. Different trusts could be dominant in different industries. The Standard Oil Company trust in the 1880s controlled a number of markets, including the market in fuel oil, lead and whiskey. Vast numbers of citizens became sufficiently aware and publicly concerned about how the trusts negatively impacted them that the Sherman Act of 1890 became a priority for both major parties.>>
--------------------------------------------------------
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
chastity,
<<I'm not the one who has been eagerly pursuing Brenda James, Art; you are.>>
I was just trying to email her about
*Henry Neville* ciphers she might not be familiar with.
Lea:

<<A word to the wise: What will happen if St. Carolyn learns that have been emailing Brenda James, and subsequently googles her out of curiosity? Even St. Carolyn's patience is not limitless, so there will be the Neville to pay!

Neville gonna happen, Dave!

Rubinstein told me that Brenda had been sick so he wouldn't give me her email address.
------------------------------------------------------
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
..............................................
_Henry Neville and The SHAKEspeare Code_
Review by P. G. Taylor (Sutton Courtenay, England)
http://www.scripophily.net/cornevisbrid.html
.
<<The code referred to here is in the 144 letter
.
. TOTHEO..-- *N* __..LIEBEGET
. TEROFT.._- *H* __..ESEINSVI
. NGSONN.. *E* __..TSMRWHAL
. LHAPPI..__- *N* __..ESSEANDT
. HATETE.._-- *R* __..NITIEPRO
. MISEDB.._-- *Y* __..OVREVERL
. IVING..__- *POET* __..WISHET
.
It took Brenda James years to figure it out!
--------------------------------------------------
Lea wrote:

<<That's probably because she was sane for most of those years, Art.>>

She coulda just read Rollett.
------------------------------------------------------
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
..............................................
_Henry Neville and The SHAKEspeare Code_
Henry Neville's own nickname was Falstaff - and he himself was fat!
The first time Falstaff ever appeared in a play by SHAKEspeare
he was called "Oldcastle", a pun on Ne Ville - New Town.
------------------------------------------------------
Lea wrote: <<But Art -- "Neuendorf" means "new town"!>>

Wow... I Neville Neu!

Lea wrote:

<<Incidentally, Art, in what language do you think (usual disclaimer) that the phrase "ne ville" means "new town"? It certainly cannot be English -- indeed, the *only* adjectival sense of _ne_ recorded in the Oxford English Dictionary is _né_, which means "originally called", not "new". The main adVERbial use is as a particle of negation or denial, as in French -- but an adVERbial sense is meaningless here, since there is no VERb for it to modify.

Nor can the tongue be French -- indeed, the word meaning "new" in French is _nouveau_ (or in its feminine form, _nouvelle_), not _ne_. I realize, of course, that your French is, if anything, even worse than your English, impossible though that may seem.>>

This is all Brenda's work, Dave.
(Should she be sent to Newcastle?)
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
___ 12 X 12
.
. T O{T H E O}N L I E(B)E
. G E T T E{R}O F T H(E)S
. E I N S U{I}N G S O(N)N
. E T S M R{W}H A L L H A
. P P I N E{S}S E A N D T
. H A T E T{E}R[N]I T I E
. P R O M I(s|E]D B Y O U
. R E V E R(L|I}V I N G P
. O E T W[I]S H e T H T H
. E W E[L]L W I S H I N G
. A D(V)E N T U R E R I N
. S[E]T T I N G F O R T H
.
TO {THE/ORIW(s)ESL/I} : Prob. ~ 1 in 4000
Lea wrote:

<<The string "THEORIWESELI [sic]" -- which is moronic nonsense in any case.>>

It's an anagram, Dave.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
_ [NE(V)IL(L)E]
Lea wrote:

<<The string "NEVILLE" does not appear as an equidistant letter sequence of skip 12 -- or indeed, of *any* skip -- in the above text, Art. The string "NELILVE" appears as an equidistant letter sequence of skip 11, but "NELILVE" is meaningless, moronic nonsense.>>

It's an anagram, Dave.

Lea wrote:

<<A saltire has nothing whatever to do with salt tears, Art.>>

More crocodile tears, Dave?
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
[ER HO(m)ELY WITS]
[WRIOTHESLEY](m)
Lea wrote:

<<That's not an anagram, Art. Moreover, "Er [sic] homely wits"
is moronic nonsense. Have you completely lost your homely wits, Art?! >>

I once tried to eat hominy grits ... and I almost lost them.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/33585
Rare Shakespeare first folio found in French library
Wednesday, November 26th, 2014
<<One of only 233 known copies of the First Folio edition of Shakespeare’s
plays has been discovered in the library of Saint-Omer,
Lea wrote: <<But Art -- "Saint Omer" is an anagram of "Mason rite"!>>

Well...there you go!
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Neville_%28writer%29
<<Henry Neville (1620–1694)
was an English politician, author and satirist,
best remembered for his tale of shipwreck and dystopia, The Isle of Pines
published in 1668. In 1651, he was elected to the English Council of State,
where he played a part in foreign policy. Later, he was in opposition to
Oliver Cromwell,
Lea wrote:

<<But Art -- "Oliver Cromwell" is an anagram of "I'll lowe Mr. O. C. -- Ver".>>

We own a condo out in O.C., Md. You must come & visit sometime, Dave.
(They just got 11" of snow and the skiing should be great!)
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. <= 11 =>
,
. W h i c h n o w t o c
. l a i m e m y l e i s
. u r e d o t h i n V {I}
. t e m e e:L e t f o {U}
. r e o f o u r c h i {E}
. f e s t C a p t a i {N}
. e s B e a r[E]H a m {L}
. e t l i k e a s o u {L}
. d i e r t o h i s g r
. a v[E]F o r h e w a s
. l i k e l y,h a d h e
. l i v e d,T o a p[R] o
. v'd m o s t r o y a l l.
.
{LL-NEUI}
Lea wrote: <<"LLNEUI [sic]" is moronic nonsense, Art.>>

It's an anagram, Dave.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. <= *26* =>
.
. O r l a y d g r e a t b a s e s(F o r) e t e r n i t
. y W h i c h p r o u e s m o r e[S]h o r t t h e n w
. a s t o r r u i n i n g?H a u e[I]n o t s e e n e d
. w e l l e r s o{N}f{O}r{M}e{A}n{D}f a u o r L o s e
. a l l,a n d m o r e b y p a y i[N]g t o o m u c h r
. e n t F o r c o m p o u n d s w[E]e t;F o r g o i n
. g s i m p l e s a u o r,P i t t[I]f u l l t h r i u
. o r s i n t h e i r g a z i n g s p e n t
(For)[SIDNEI] *26*
Lea wrote:

<<The string "For Sidnei" does not appear as an equidistant letter sequence of skip 26 -- or indeed, of *any* skip -- in the above text, Art. It's really a pity that George Mason Elementary was unable to teach you either to read *or* to count, Art!>>

I distinctly recall that I subscribed to _My Weekly Read *or*_ at GME.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_Reader

(I also subscribed to Martin Gardner's _Humpty Dumpty Magazine_ in
the 1950s, before your group promoted him to Scientific American.)
--
Art Neuendorffer
nordicskiv2
2018-01-10 18:44:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
(And are you a committee member this year?)
<<I am not permitted by my vow of obedience
to comment upon personnel matters, Art.>>
You seem to be struggling to find a replacement for liddle [sic] Marco.
Is English your native tongue, Art?
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
What about your vows of poVERty,
<<You don't think that we are paid a living wage, do you, Art?! The
Trust has good intentions, of course, but its resources are limited.>>
You trust them?
Lea wrote: <<Of course, Art -- Trust is its VERy name!
--------------------------------------------------------
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition_law#United_States_antitrust
<<Trusts first appeared in the US railroads, where the capital requirement
of railroad construction precluded competitive services in then scarcely
settled territories. This trust allowed railroads to discriminate on rates
imposed and services provided to consumers and businesses and to destroy
potential competitors. Different trusts could be dominant in different
industries. The Standard Oil Company trust in the 1880s controlled a number
of markets, including the market in fuel oil, lead and whiskey. Vast numbers
of citizens became sufficiently aware and publicly concerned about how the
trusts negatively impacted them that the Sherman Act of 1890 became a
priority for both major parties.>>
That sort of trust has nothing whateVER to do with the Birthplace Trust, Art; it's a pity that you don't understand even rudimentary English.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
chastity,
<<I'm not the one who has been eagerly pursuing Brenda James, Art; you are.>>
I was just trying to email her about
*Henry Neville* ciphers she might not be familiar with.
<<A word to the wise: What will happen if St. Carolyn learns that have been
emailing Brenda James, and subsequently googles her out of curiosity? Even
St. Carolyn's patience is not limitless, so there will be the Neville to pay!
Neville gonna happen, Dave!
Rubinstein told me that Brenda had been sick so he wouldn't give me her email address.
Well, no wonder, Art -- being spammed by endlessly repeated and utterly refuted idiotic crap is the *last* thing that she needs!
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
..............................................
_Henry Neville and The SHAKEspeare Code_
Review by P. G. Taylor (Sutton Courtenay, England)
http://www.scripophily.net/cornevisbrid.html
.
<<The code referred to here is in the 144 letter
.
. TOTHEO..-- *N* __..LIEBEGET
. TEROFT.._- *H* __..ESEINSVI
. NGSONN.. *E* __..TSMRWHAL
. LHAPPI..__- *N* __..ESSEANDT
. HATETE.._-- *R* __..NITIEPRO
. MISEDB.._-- *Y* __..OVREVERL
. IVING..__- *POET* __..WISHET
.
It took Brenda James years to figure it out!
--------------------------------------------------
<<That's probably because she was sane for most of those years, Art.>>
She coulda [sic] just read Rollett.
If she were sane, she would not be taken in by Rollett, Art.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
..............................................
_Henry Neville and The SHAKEspeare Code_
Henry Neville's own nickname was Falstaff - and he himself was fat!
The first time Falstaff ever appeared in a play by SHAKEspeare
he was called "Oldcastle", a pun on Ne Ville - New Town.
------------------------------------------------------
Lea wrote: <<But Art -- "Neuendorf" means "new town"!>>
Wow... I Neville Neu!
There is *much* that you don't know, Art; moreoVER, since literacy is a necessary condition for more learning, there is little likelihood that you eVER will.
<<Incidentally, Art, in what language do you think (usual disclaimer) that
the phrase "ne ville" means "new town"? It certainly cannot be English --
indeed, the *only* adjectival sense of _ne_ recorded in the Oxford English
Dictionary is _né_, which means "originally called", not "new". The main
adVERbial use is as a particle of negation or denial, as in French -- but
an adVERbial sense is meaningless here, since there is no VERb for it to
modify.
Nor can the tongue be French -- indeed, the word meaning "new" in French
is _nouveau_ (or in its feminine form, _nouvelle_), not _ne_. I realize,
of course, that your French is, if anything, even worse than your English,
impossible though that may seem.>>
This is all Brenda's work, Dave.
(Should she be sent to Newcastle?)
How about Colney Hatch?
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
___ 12 X 12
.
. T O{T H E O}N L I E(B)E
. G E T T E{R}O F T H(E)S
. E I N S U{I}N G S O(N)N
. E T S M R{W}H A L L H A
. P P I N E{S}S E A N D T
. H A T E T{E}R[N]I T I E
. P R O M I(s|E]D B Y O U
. R E V E R(L|I}V I N G P
. O E T W[I]S H e T H T H
. E W E[L]L W I S H I N G
. A D(V)E N T U R E R I N
. S[E]T T I N G F O R T H
.
TO {THE/ORIW(s)ESL/I} : Prob. ~ 1 in 4000
<<The string "THEORIWESELI [sic]" -- which is moronic nonsense in any case.>>
It's an anagram, Dave.
It is generally agreed that in anagramming, *both* character strings, the unpermuted and the permuted, should make sense, Art; the string to be permuted should not be meaningless moronic rubbish. "THEORIWESELI [sic]" is moronic nonsense.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
_ [NE(V)IL(L)E]
<<The string "NEVILLE" does not appear as an equidistant letter sequence of
skip 12 -- or indeed, of *any* skip -- in the above text, Art. The string
"NELILVE" appears as an equidistant letter sequence of skip 11, but "NELILVE"
is meaningless, moronic nonsense.>>
It's an anagram, Dave.
It is generally agreed that in anagramming, *both* character strings, the unpermuted and the permuted, should make sense, Art; the string to be permuted should not be meaningless moronic rubbish. "NELILVE [sic]" is moronic nonsense.
<<A saltire has nothing whatever to do with salt tears, Art.>>
More crocodile tears, Dave?
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
[ER HO(m)ELY WITS]
[WRIOTHESLEY](m)
<<That's not an anagram, Art. Moreover, "Er [sic] homely wits"
is moronic nonsense. Have you completely lost your homely wits, Art?! >>
I once tried to eat hominy grits ... and I almost lost them.
Your homely wits? The word "almost" is manifestly unnecessary.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/33585
Rare Shakespeare first folio found in French library
Wednesday, November 26th, 2014
<<One of only 233 known copies of the First Folio edition of Shakespeare’s
plays has been discovered in the library of Saint-Omer,
Lea wrote: <<But Art -- "Saint Omer" is an anagram of "Mason rite"!>>
Well...there you go!
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Neville_%28writer%29
<<Henry Neville (1620–1694)
was an English politician, author and satirist,
best remembered for his tale of shipwreck and dystopia, The Isle of Pines
published in 1668. In 1651, he was elected to the English Council of State,
where he played a part in foreign policy. Later, he was in opposition to
Oliver Cromwell,
<<But Art -- "Oliver Cromwell" is an anagram of "I'll lowe Mr. O. C. -- Ver".>>
We own a condo out in O.C., Md. You must come & visit sometime, Dave.
(They just got 11" of snow and the skiing should be great!)
Thank you, Art -- that sounds inviting. I could also collect the ten dollars that you owe me from our bet, as well as those unused Landau volumes that you cannot read.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. <= 11 =>
,
. W h i c h n o w t o c
. l a i m e m y l e i s
. u r e d o t h i n V {I}
. t e m e e:L e t f o {U}
. r e o f o u r c h i {E}
. f e s t C a p t a i {N}
. e s B e a r[E]H a m {L}
. e t l i k e a s o u {L}
. d i e r t o h i s g r
. a v[E]F o r h e w a s
. l i k e l y,h a d h e
. l i v e d,T o a p[R] o
. v'd m o s t r o y a l l.
.
{LL-NEUI}
Lea wrote: <<"LLNEUI [sic]" is moronic nonsense, Art.>>
It's an anagram, Dave.
It is generally agreed that in anagramming, *both* character strings, the unpermuted and the permuted, should make sense, Art; the string to be permuted should not be meaningless moronic rubbish. "LLNEUI [sic]" is moronic nonsense.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. <= *26* =>
.
. O r l a y d g r e a t b a s e s(F o r) e t e r n i t
. y W h i c h p r o u e s m o r e[S]h o r t t h e n w
. a s t o r r u i n i n g?H a u e[I]n o t s e e n e d
. w e l l e r s o{N}f{O}r{M}e{A}n{D}f a u o r L o s e
. a l l,a n d m o r e b y p a y i[N]g t o o m u c h r
. e n t F o r c o m p o u n d s w[E]e t;F o r g o i n
. g s i m p l e s a u o r,P i t t[I]f u l l t h r i u
. o r s i n t h e i r g a z i n g s p e n t
(For)[SIDNEI] *26*
<<The string "For Sidnei" does not appear as an equidistant letter sequence
of skip 26 -- or indeed, of *any* skip -- in the above text, Art. It's
really a pity that George Mason Elementary was unable to teach you either
to read *or* to count, Art!>>
I distinctly recall that I subscribed to _My Weekly Read *or* [sic]_ at GME.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_Reader
That's before me time, Art, but _My Weekly Reader_ was written in English, so it would have been useless to you.
(I also subscribed to Martin Gardner's _Humpty Dumpty Magazine_
What a coincidence, Art -- it seems likely from Arundel's testimony that Oxford subscribed to Humpty Rumpty in his youth.
in
the 1950s, before your group promoted him to Scientific American.)
My group? What group would that, be, Art? And how could any group, other than the editorial staff of _Scientific American_, "promote" him?
--
Art Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter)
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