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artificiall flowers and leaves,
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___ Hero and Leander by G.Chapman
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And thereof springs the painted *BEAST*,
That EVER since taints EVERy breast.
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___ Hero and Leander by [K.MARLO]
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Her vaile was artificiall flowers and leaves,
Whose workmanship both man and *BEAST* deceaves.
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http://hollowaypages.com/jonson1692epigrams.htm

Jonson's Epigrams: # 26. On the same *BEAST*.

TAn his Chast Wife, though *BEAST* now [K]now no [M]ore,
He '[A]dulte[R]s stil[L]: his th[O]ughts lye with a *WHORE*.
.......................
. <= 6 =>
.
. h i s C h a
. s t W i f e,
. t h o u g h
. *B E A S T* n
. o w [K] n o w
. n o [M] o r e,
. H e'[A] d u l
. t e [R] s s t
. i l [L]:h i s
. t h [O] u g h
. t s l y e w
. i t h a W h
. o r e.
.
[K.MARLO] 6 : Prob. for #26 any skip ~ 1 in 555,000
Prob. for all of Jonson's *WHORE* EPIGRAMS ~ 1 in 70,000
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. Ben Jonson folio dedication:
.
. These are, as some infamous Baud, or *WHORE*,
. {SHOuld praise a Matron. What could hurt her more?
. But thou a[R]t proofe against them, and indeed
. Above th' ill fortune [O]f them, or the need.
. I, therefore will begin. Soule of the {A|G]e !
. The applause ! delight ! the wonder of our Stage !
. {My Sha{k|E]SPEARE}, rise; I will no{T LODGE} thee by
. Chaucer, or [SPENS{E|R], or bid Beaumont lye
. A little further, to make thee a roo[M]e :
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________ <= 45 =>
.
___ {S H O uldpra iseaMatronW h atcou ldhurthermoreBu
. tt h o u a[R] tproof eagainstthe m andin deedAbovethillf
. or t u n e[O] fthemo rtheneedIth e refor ewillbeginSoule
. of t h e{A|G] eTheap plausedelig h tthew onderofourStage
. {My S H A{k|E] SPEARE} riseIwillno {T LODGE} theebyChauceror
. [SP E N S{E|R] orbidB eaumontlyeA l ittle furthertomaketh
. ee a r o o[M] e
.
[ROGER M] 45
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And such wert thou. Looke how the fathers face
Lives in his issue, even so, the race
Of Shakespeares minde, and *MANNERS* brightly shines
In his well toned, and TRUE-filed lines :
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____ SONNET 42 *ROGER M* : skip = 38

. Louing offendors thus I will excuse yee,
. Thou doost loue her, because thou knowst I loue her,
. And for my sake euen so doth she abuse me,
. Suff[R]ing my friend for my sake to approoue her,
. If I l[O]ose thee, my losse is (M)y loues gaine,
. And loosin[G] her, my friend hath f(O)und that losse,
. Both find[E] each other, and I loo(S)e both *TWAINE* ,
. And both fo[R] my sake *LAY ON ME THI(S) (CROSSE)* ,
. But here's the ioy, [MY FRIEND AND I ARE *ON(E)*] ,
. Sweete flattery, then she loues but me alone.
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_________ <= 38 =>

. Suff [R] ingmyfriendformy s aketoa pprooueher
. IfIl [O] osetheemylosseis (M) yloues gaineAndlo
. osin [G] hermyfriendhathf (O) undtha tlosseBoth
. find [E] eachotherandIloo (S) ebotht waineAndbo
. thfo [R] mysakeLAYONMETHI (S)(CROSSE)Butheresth
. eioy [M YFRIENDANDIAREON (E)]

[ROGER M] 38: Prob. of with skip <39 ~ 1 in 21
(MOSSE) 38
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http://tinyurl.com/jq8h944
.
. This Shadowe is renowned Shakespea{R}'s?
. Soule o[F] th' [A]ge [T]he [A]pplause? delight?
The wonder {O}f the Stage.
. Nature her selfe, was proud of his desi{G}nes
. [A]nd joy'd to weare the dressing of his lines,
. [T]h{E} learned will confess his works as such
. [A]s neithe{R MAN, NOR MUSE} can praise to much
. [F]or *EVER* live thy [FAME], the worl[D] to tell,
. Th[Y] like, no ag[E], shall *EVE[R]* paralell
....................................................
. <= 41 =>
.
. ThisShadoweisrenownedShakespe a {R} sSoule oFth
. AgeTheApplausedelightThewonde r {O} ftheSt ageN
. atureherselfewasproudofhisdes i {G} nesAnd joyd
. towearethedressingofhislinesT h {E} learne dwil
. lconfesshisworksassuchAsneith e {R MANNOR MUSE}
. canpraisetomuchForEVERlivethy F A MEthew orld
. totellThylikenoageshallEVERpa r a lell
.
{ROGER/MANNOR} 41 :Prob. ~ 1 in 2,550
[FATA] 3 : Prob. ~ 1 in 66
[DYER] 9
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Ben Jonson from the First Folio, 1623
http://shakespeare.palomar.edu/Folio1.htm#Beloved

To the [M]emory of my beloved,
The Author MR. WI(LLI)AM SHAKESPE[A]RE :
AND what he hath left us.

To draw no en(V)y (Shakespea[R]e) on thy name,
Am I thus ample to thy Book(E), and Fame;
Whi[L]e I confesse thy writings to be such,
As (N)eithe{R MAN, N[O]R MUSE} , can praise too much.
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. <= 43 =>
.
. Tothe [M] emory ofmybelovedTheAuthorMRWI (LLI) AMSHA
. KESPE [A] REAND whathehathleftusTodrawnoen (V) yShak
. espea [R] eonth ynameAmIthusampletothyBook (E) andFa
. meWhi [L] eIcon fessethywritingstobesuchAs (N) eithe
. {R MANN[O]R MUSE} canpraisetoomuchTisTRUEand a llmen
. ssuff r age.
.
[MARLO] 43 (Prob. ~ 1 in 550)
(NEVI/LL) -43
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I first got excited about Oxfordian ciphers from reading about 2
amazing near anagrams in Michell's book _Who Wrote Shakespeare_:
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. OUR EVER-LIVIN(g) POET
. VERO NIL VERIU(s) POET

. and:

. ENVIOU(s) SLIVER broke
. NIL VE(r)O VERIUS broke
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. Hamlet (Quarto 2, 1604) Act 4, Scene 7
.
Queen: There is a Willow growes ascaunt the Brooke
. That showes his horry leaves in the glassy streame,
. Therewith FANTASTIQUE gaRLANDs did she make
. Of Crowflowers, Nettles, Daises, and long *PURPLES*
. That liberall Shepheards giue *A GROSSER NAME* ,
. But our cull-cold maydes doe dead mens fingers call them.
. There on the pendant boughes her *CRONET WEEDES*
. Clambring to hang, an *ENVIOU(s) SLIVER* broke,
. When downe her weedy trophiEs and her selfe
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JULY 6, 1604 - Edward de Vere buried
. on St. GodeliEVE's Day
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July 6, 1070 - St. GodeliEVE murdered by
. *DROWNING IN A POND* after being strangled into
. unconciousness by her mother-in-law's servants.
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David Roper Stratford Monument array:
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<= 34 =>

TE RRAT E (G) I TPOP U L U S M Æ R E T O{L Y M P U S H A B E}T
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ST AYPA S (S) E NGER W H Y G O E S T T H O U B Y S O F A S T R
EA DIFT (H)(O) U CANS T W H O M[E N V I O U S]D E A T H H A T H
PL ASTW (I)(T) H INTH I S {M O N[U]M E N T|S H A K S P E A R E}W
IT HWHO (M)(E) Q UICK(N)a {T U R[E|D]I D E|W H O S E N A M E D}O
<TH DECK> Y (S) T OMBE F A R M O[R|E]t H E N C O S T{S I E H}A L
LY THEH A (T) H WRIT T L E[A.V|E|S L I V]I N G A R T B U T P A
GE TOSE R V E HISW I T T
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"[ENVIOUS SLIV/ER] broke"
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I read Michell's hardback book 25 years ago and it
soon after fell apart so I bought a new paperback.

Michell not only sold me on ciphers but also on group theory...

I think Oxford wrote the (self referential) Hamlet 1603
Quarto while others (including Rutland & Lord STRANGE)
improved upon it for the 1604 Quarto.

After Rutland died in 1612
William Stanley honored him in Hamlet's letter:
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1623 Folio (Act 4, Scene 7)
Claudius reads Hamlet's letter to Laertes:

'High and mighty, You shall know I am set naked on
your kingdom. To-morrow shall I beg leave to see
your kingly eyes: when I shall, first asking your
pardon thereunto, recount the occasion of my sudden
*AND MORE STRANGE RE(t)URN*.' 'HAMLET.'
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____ *AND MORE STRANGE RE(t)URN*
____ *ROGER MANNERS, E. RUT(l)AND*
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. *GROS(s)ER NAME* : *ENVIOU(s) SLIVER*
. *ROGE(r) MANERS* : *NIL VE(r)O VERIUS*
..................................................
. Hamlet (Quarto 2, 1604) Act 4, Scene 7
.
Queen: There is a Willow growes ascaunt the Brooke
. That showes his horry leaves in the glassy streame,
. Therewith FANTASTIQUE gaRLANDs did she make
. Of Crowflowers, Nettles, Daises, and long *PURPLES*
. That liberall Shepheards giue *A GROS(s)ER NAM{E}* ,
. But our cull-c{O}ld maydes doe [D]ead mens fing[E]rs call them.
. There on the pen[D]ant boughes h[E]r *CRONET WEED{E}S*
. Clamb(RING) t{O} hang, an *ENVIO[U](s) SLIVER* brok[E],
. When downe he[R] weedy trophi[E]s and her selfe
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. <= 12 =>
.
. *A G R O S (s) E R N A M {E}*
. B u t o u r c u l l -c {O}
. l d m a y d e s d o e [D]
. e a d m e n s f i n g [E]
. r s c a l l t h e m. T h
. e r e o n t h e p e n [D]
. a n t b o u g h e s h [E]
. r *C R O N E T W E E D {E}
. S* C l a m b (R I N G) t {O}
. h a n g, a n *E N V I O [U]
. (s) S L I V E R* b r o k [E]
. W h e n d o w n e h e [R]
. w e e d y t r o p h i [E]
. s a n d h e r s e l f e
.
[DE{E.O.}UERE] 12
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[THOMAS SHELTON]: Don Quixote, The First Part
http://www.bartleby.com/14/101.html

I. Wherein Is Rehearsed the Calling and Exercise
of the Renowned Gentleman, Don Quixote of the Mancha

[T] HE {R} E lived not long since, in a certain village of the
Manch [A],th {E} name whereof I purposely omit, a gentleman of their
cal [L] in {G} that use to pile up in their halls old lances, halberds,
m [O] ri {O} ns, and such other armours and w{E}apons. He was, besides,
*MA [S] TE {R}* of an an{C}ient target, a lean stallion, and a sw{I}ft greyhound.

His pot consisted dai{L}y of somewhat more beef than mutton: {A} gallimaufry
each night, collops and eggs on Saturdays, lentils on Fridays, and now and
then a lean pigeon on Sundays, did consume three parts of his rents; the rest
and remnant thereof was spent on a jerkin of fine puce, a pair of velvet hose,
with pantofles of the same for the holy-days, and one suit of the finest vesture;
for ther[E]withal he honoured and set out his person on the work[D]a{YS}.
He had in his house a woman-se{R}vant of about fort[Y] years old, {A}nd a niece
not yet twenty, and a {M}an that serv[E]d him both in field and at home,
and could saddle his ho[R]se, and likewise manage a pruning-hook.
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[TALOS] 49 : Prob. from start ~ 1 in 600
{ROGER} -49
{ALICE} -30 : Prob. near start ~ 1 in 47
{MARY/S} -25 : Prob. near start ~ 1 in 40
[E.DYER] 44 : Prob. near start ~ 1 in 35
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The master himself was about fifty years old, of a strong complexion, dry flesh,
and a withered face. He was an early riser, and a great friend of hunting.
Some affirm that his surname was Quixada, or Quesada (for in this there is some
variance among the authors that write his life), although it may be gathered,
by very probable conjectures, that he was called Quixana. Yet all this concerns
our historical relation but little: let it then suffice, that in the narration
thereof we will not vary a jot from the truth. [Y]ou shall the[R]efore wit,
that this ge[N]tleman above *NAM[E]D, the spurts that [H]e was idle
(which was the longer part of the year), did apply himself wholly to the
reading of books of knigh{T}hood, and that with such gusts {A}nd delights,
as he almost whol{L}y neglected the exercise of h{U}nting; yea,
and the VERy admini{S}tration of his household affairs.
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[HENRY] -15
{TALUS} 25
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And his curiosity and folly came to that pass, that he made away many acres
of arable land to buy him books of that kind, and therefore he brought to
his house as many as ever he could get of that subject. And among them all,
none pleased him better than those which famous Felician of Silva composed.
For the smoothness of his prose, with now and then some intricate sentence
meddled, seemed to him peerless; and principally when he did read the
courtings, or letters of challenge, that knights sent to ladies, or one
to another; where, in many places, he found written: ‘The reason of the
unreasonableness which against my reason is wrought, doth so weaken my reason,
as with all reason I do justly complain on your beauty.’ And also when he read:
‘The high heavens, which with your divinity do fortify you divinely with the stars,
and make you DE(ser)VERE(ss) of the deserts which your greatness deserves,’ etc.
With these and other such passages the poor gentleman grew distracted, and was
breaking his brains [D]ay and night, to understand [A]nd unbowel their sense,
an e[N]dless labour; for even Aris[T]otle himself would not und[ER]stand them,
though he were [A]gain resuscitated only for that purpose. He did not like so
much the unproportionate blows that Don Belianis gave and took in fight; for, as
he imagin{E}d, were the surgeo{N}s never so cunnin{G} that cured them, y{E}t was
it impossib{L}e but that the pat{I}ent his face and all his body must remain full
of scars and tokens. Yet did he praise, notwithstanding, in the author of that
history, the conclusion of his book, with the promise of the Endless Adventure;
and many times he himself had a desire to take pen and finish it exactly, as it
is there promised; and would doubtless have performed it, and that certes with
happy success, if other more urgent and continual thoughts had not disturbed him.
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[DANTE.A] 23
{ENGELI} 15 : Prob. at start ~ 1 in 455
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Many times did he fall at variance with the curate of his village (who was
a learned man, graduated in Ciguenca) touching who was the better knight,
Palmerin of England, or Amadis de Gaul. But Master Nicholas, the barber
of the same town, would affirm that none of both arrived in worth to the
Knight of the Sun; and if any one knight might paragon with him, it was
infallibly Don Galaor, Amadis de Gaul’s brother, whose nature might fitly
be accommodated to anything; for he was not so coy and whining a knight
as his brother, and that in matters of valour he did not bate him an ace.

In resolution, he plu{N}ged himself so deeply in his reading of these books,
{A|S|HE} spent many times in the lecture of them whole days [A]nd nights;
and in the end, through his little (S)le(E)p a(N)d [M|U)ch (R)eading, he dried up his
brains in such sort as he l[O]st wholly his judgment. His fantasy was filled
with t[H]ose things that he read, of enchantments, quarrels, ba[T]tles,
challenges, wounds, wooings, loves, tempests, and other impossible follies.
And these toys did so firmly possess his imagination with an infallible
opinion that all that machina of dreamed inventions which he read was true,
as he accounted no history in the world to be so certain and sincere as
they were. He was wont to say, that the Cid Ruy Diaz was a very good knight,
but not to be compared to the Knight of the Burning Sword, which, with one
thwart blow, cut asunder two fierce and mighty giants. He agreed better wi{T}h
Bern{A}rdo de{L} Carpi{O}, becau{S}e he slew the enchanted Roland in Roncesvalles.
He likewise liked of the shift Hercule[S] used when he smothered Anteon, the
son of the earth, between [H]is arms. He praised the giant Morgant marvellously,
becaus[E], though he was of that monstrous progeny, who are commonly a[L]l
of them proud and rude, yet he was affable and courteous. Bu[T] he agreed
best of all with Reinauld of Mount Alban; and most [O]f all then, when he
saw hi{M} sally out of his castle to rob as ma[N]y {A}s ever he could meet;
and when, moreove{R}, he robbed the idol of Mahomet, made al{L} of gold, as
his history recounts, and w{O}uld be content to give his old woman, y{E}a,
and his niece also, for a good opportunity on the traitor Galalon,
that he might lamb-skin and trample him into powder.
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. <= 44 =>
.
. Inresolut i on h ep l u{N} g e dhimselfsodeeplyinhisrea
. dingofthe s eb o ok s {A|S| H E}spentmanytimesinthelectu
. reofthemw h ol e da y s[A] n d nightsandintheendthrough
. hislittle(S)le(E)pa(N) d[M](U)c h(R)eadinghedrieduphisbrai
. nsinsuchs o rt a sh e l[O] s t whollyhisjudgmentHisfant
. asywasfil l ed w it h t[H] o s ethingsthathereadofencha
. ntmentsqu a rr e ls b a[T] t l eschallengeswoundswooing
. slovestem p es t sa n d o t h erimpossiblefollies
.
[SHELTON] 49 : Prob. at start ~ 1 in 363
{TALOS} 6
(RUNES) -4
[THOMAS] -44 : Prob. in same paragraph ~ 1 in 112
{N.A[S]HE}
{MARLOE} 31 : Prob. in same paragraph ~ 1 in 500
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[THOMAS] {N}ashe in _Have with you to Saffron-Walden_ (1596)
.
"I nEVER abusd {MARLOE}, Greene, Chettle,
in my life, or anie of my friends that usde me
like a friend; which both {MARLOE} and Greene
(if they were alive) under their hands would testifie,
even as Harry Chettle hath in a short note here;"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Concanen#An_Essay_Against_Too_Much_Reading

<<Matthew Concanen (1701 – 22 January 1749) was a writer, poet & lawyer born in Ireland He criticised Alexander Pope and was rewarded with a passage in Pope's Dunciad ridiculing him as "A cold, long-winded native of the deep" (Dunciad, ii. 299-304). He was co-author of The history and antiquities of the parish of St. Saviour's, Southwark.

The 1728 anonymous pamphlet, An Essay Against Too Much Reading, has been attributed to Concanen, though it has also been identified (probably wrongly) as the work of a certain "Captain Goulding" (Thomas Goulding) of Bath. The author proposed "a short account of Mr Shakespeare's proceeding, and that I had from one of his intimate acquaintance..." Shakespeare is described as merely a collaborator who "in all probability cou'd not write English." With regard the Bard's grasp of history, the Essay related that Shakespeare "not being a scholar" employed a "chuckle-pated historian" who gave him a set of notes to save the trouble of research. The historian also corrected his grammar.>>
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. THE STORY OF THE LEARNED PIG
. As related by himself to the Author
. of the following letter.
.
Dear Sir,
.
. I have the pleasure to be v[E]ry
. intimate with the man w[H]o shews
. th(E) learned pig at[S]adl(E)r’s We(L)ls.
. As (I) was o(N)e d[A]y sitting (I)n
. his parlour, a[N]d no perso(N) in
. the house bu[T] myself, I was alarmed by a gentle
. rap at the door, which I immediately opened, and
. discovered the learned pig erect on his hinder legs,
. and bowing very gracefully with his head and body.
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. <= 22 =>
.
. I h a v e t h e p l e a s u r e t o b e v [E]
. r y i n t i m a t e w i t h t h e m a n w [H]
. o s h e w s t h (E) l e a r n e d p i g a t [S]
. a d l(E)r’s W e (L) l s.A s(I)w a s o(N)e d [A]
. y s i t t i n g (I) n h i s p a r l o u r,a [N]
. d n o p e r s o (N) i n t h e h o u s e b u [T]
. m y s e l f,

[T.NASHE] -22 : Prob. in first 2 sent. ~ 1 in 410
(NILE) -22,-5
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. *STRANGE* Newes, 1592 by {T}homas {NASHE}
. Printed at London by *{I}ohn {DANTER}*, 1592.
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. Sonnet 76 : 4 X 19 (Metonic cycle)
.
. <= 19 =>
.
. E V E R {T} h e s a m e[A]n d k(E|E)p e
. i n u(E){N}(T)i o n i n a*N O T(E)D W(E)
. E D*T h {A}(T)E V E R y w o r(D|D]o t h
. a l m o {S}(T)F E L m[Y]n a m<E>S h e w
. i n g t {H}[E]i r b i r t h a n d w h e
. [R]e t h {E} y(D)i d p r o c e[E]d
.
{T.NASHE} 19 Prob. in Sonnet 76 ~ 1 in 450
[only *TNASHE* in Sonnets of any skip!]
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Alfred, Lord Tennyson (1809–1892)

Lady Clara Vere de Vere,
You put *(S){T}RANGE* memories in my head.
Not thrice your bra(A){N}ching lines have blown
Since I beheld young (L){A}urence dead.
O your sweet eyes, your low repli(E){S}:
A great enchantress you may be;
But there was (T)H}at across his throat
Which you had hardly car{E}d to see.
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. <= 2 X 19 =>
.
. LadyClaraVeredeVereYouput *(S) {T} RANGE* memori
. esinmyheadNotthriceyourbr (A) {N} ching linesh
. aveblownSinceIbeheldyoung (L) {A} urenc edeadO
. yoursweeteyesyourlowrepli (E) {S} Agrea tencha
. ntressyoumaybeButtherewas (T) {H} atacr osshis
. throatWhichyouhadhardlyca r {E} dtose e

{T.NASHE} 38 : Prob. ~ 1 in 130
(TELAS) -38 : Web (Latin)
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. Sonnet 76 (1609)
.
. WHy is my verse so barren of new pride?
. So far from variation or quicke *CHANGE*?
. Why with the time do I not glance aside
. {T}o new found methods, and to compounds *STRANGE*?
. {W}hy write I still all one, [EVER] the same,
. {A}nd keepe inuention in a *NOT{ED WEED}*,
. {T}hat {EVERy WORD} [D]oth almost fel {M[Y] NAME},
. {S}hewing th[E]ir birth, and whe[R]e {T}hey did proce[E]d?
. {O} k{N}ow sweet love I alw{A}ies writ[E] of you,
. A\n\{D} (Y)ou an[D] love are s(T|I|L)l my argument:
. So (A)ll my best is dressing old words new,
. Spending againe what is already spent:
. For as the Sun is daily new and old,
. So is my loue still telling what is told,
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[T.WATSO\n\] Acrostic Prob. ~ 1 in 5500
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Meres: "As {I|TALY) had {DANTE}, Boccace, Petrarch, ...
so England had {T}homas {WATSO\n\}, Thomas Kid, ..."
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____ <= 15 =>
.
(N O T){E D W E E D}(T) h A T {E V
. E R y w o r D}[D](O) t h a l m o
. S T F E L {M [Y](N) A M E},S h e w
. i n g t H [E] I r b i r t h a n
. (D) w h e [R] e {T} h E y D i d p r
. (O) c e [E D] O K {N} o w s w e E t
. (L) o [V E] I a l w {A} i e s w r i
. (T)[E] o f y o u A n {D}(Y) o u a n
. [D] l O v E a r e s (T){I}(L) l m y
. a r g u m e n t: S o (A) l l m y
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{I.DANTE/R} skip -16 {found by James Ferris}
(DOLT) skip 15
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[DEVERE] skip -14 {found by James Ferris}
[DYER] skip 14 {found by A.W.Burgstahler}
[DYEREVED] Prob. in any Sonnet ~ 1 in 3,000
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{T.NASHE}'s _Haue with you to Saffron-walden_ was
printed at London by {I}ohn {DANTE/R} in 1596 when
{T.NASHE} was living with Mr. & Mrs. {I}ohn {DANTE/R}
.......................................................
{T.NASHE}'s _Haue with you to Saffron-walden_ (1596)

"Page, hee beginnes with one 100. againe to make it seeme little,
(if I lye you may look and conuince mee); & in halfe a quire of
paper besides, hath left the Pages vnfigured. I haue read that
the Gian[T] A[N]t[A]u[S] S[H]i[E]ld askt a whole Elephants
hyde to couer it, bona fide I v [...]ter it, scarce a
whole Elephants hyde & a half would serue for a couer"
..................................................
. Othello (Quarto 1, 1622) last scene
.
Emillia: Thou hast not halfe the power to doe me harme,
. As I haue to be hurt: O gull, O (DOLT),
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http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A73861.0001.001/1:12?rgn=div1;view=fulltext

ELEGIES VP ON SVNDRY OCCASIONS
Of his Ladies not Comming to London.
By *MICHAELL DRAYTON*, Esquire.

LONDON, Printed by A. M. for WILLIAM LEE, and are to be sold at the
*TURKES* Head in Fleete-Streete, next to the Miter and Phaenix. 1631.
.......................................................
But when the unpittying [FATES] her end decreed,
They to the same did instantly proceed,
For well they knew (if she had languish'd so)
As those which hence by naturall causes goe,
So many prayers and teares for her had spoken,
As certainly th[E|I)r Iron lawes had broken,
And had awak'd heav'n, who clearely would have show'[D]
{T}hat change of Kingdoms to her death it ow'd,
And that the World still of her [E|N}d might thinke,
It would have let some neighboring mountain sinke
Or the [V|A}st Sea it in on us to cast,
As Severne did about some five yeares past:
Or som[E] {S}terne Comet his curld top to reare,
Whose length should measure halfe ou[R] {HE}misphere,
Holding this height, to say some will not sticke,
That now I rav[E], and am growne lunaticke:
You of what sexe so ere you be, you lye,
'Tis thou thy selfe is lunatique, not I.
...................................................
. <= [61] = [5+4+5+20+5+17+5] =>
.
. Ascertainlyth [E] I rIronlaweshadbrokenAndhadawakdheavnwhoclearely
. wouldhaveshow [D]{T} hatchangeofKingdomstoherdeathitowdAndthattheWo
. rldstillofher [E]{N} dmightthinkeItwouldhaveletsomeneighboringmount
. ainsinkeOrthe [V]{A} stSeaitinonustocastAsSevernedidaboutsomefiveye
. arespastOrsom [E]{S} terneComethiscurldtoptoreareWhoselengthshouldm
. easurehalfeou [R]{He} misphereHoldingthisheighttosaysomewillnotstic
. keThatnowIrav [E] a ndamgrownelunaticke
.
[E.DEVERE] 61 : = Gematria value [5+4+5+20+5+17+5]
{T.NASH/e} 61
..............................................................
Prob. of {T.NASH/e} to right of [E.DEVERE] ~ 1 in 5,000,000
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In 1598 Meres placed:

*THOMAS NASH next to (grand father-in-law) SHAKESPEARE*
.....................................................
*THOMAS NASH* owned in 1642 the house next New Place in Chapel St.
. *His stone, to the right of Shakespeare's in the chancel*
. http://tinyurl.com/kevdr6g
...................................................
. ... the best for Comedy amongst vs bee,
.
_ Edward Earle of Oxforde,
.
_ Doctor Gager of Oxforde,
_ Maister Rowley once a rare Scholler of learned Pembrooke Hall,
_ Maister Edwardes one of her Maiesties Chappell,
_ eloquent and wittie Iohn Lilly,
_ Lodge,
_ Gascoyne,
......................
_ *GREENE* ,
_ *Shakespeare* ,
_ *THOMAS NASH* ,
......................
_ Thomas Heywood,
_ Anthony Mundye OUR BEST PLOTTER,
_ Chapman,
_ [PORTER],
.
_ *WILSON, HATHWAY* , and Henry Chettle.
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shakespeare/books/chambers/a...
.
William Shakespeare - A Study of The Facts & Problems
E K Chambers [Appendix A, Section]
.
RECORDS 1. CHRISTENINGS, MARRIAGES, AND BURIALS
.
1626, Apr. 22. M. Mr *THOMAS NASH* to Mrs Elizabeth Hall.
1647, Apr. 5. B. *THOMAS NASH* , Gent.
.
[His stone, to the right of Shakespeare's in the chancel, has under
the arms of *NASH* (<Az. > on a chevron between three ravens' heads
erased <arg. > a pellet between four crosses crosslet <sa. >),
quartered with Bulstrode, impaling Hall quartered with Shakespeare:
.
. HEERE RESTETH YE BODY OF THOMAS
. NASHE, ESQ. HE MAR. ELIZABETH, THE
. DAVG: & HEIRE OF IOHN HALLE, GENT.
. HE DIED APRILL 4. A. 1647, AGED 53.
.
."[FATA] manent omnes, hunc non virtute carentum
. {UT} necque divitiis, abstulit atra dies;
. Abstulit, at referet lux ultima; *SIST[E V|I}ATOR*,
. si p[E|R}itura pa[R|A}s per mal[E] {P}arta peri{S}."
...............................
. <= 9 =>
.
. *S I S T [E V] {I} A T
. O R*s i p [E] {R} i t
. u r a p a [R] {A} s p
. e r m a l [E] {P} a r
. t a p e r i {S}
.
[E/VERE] 9 : Prob. ~ 1 in 160
{SPARI} m (LATIN) of a hunting *SPEAR*
.......................................................
"[(F)ATE] (A)wai(T)ing (A)ll of this and not to be
deprived of power or wealth, has stolen a day
and taken away the last light; *STAY TRAVELER*;
As perishable ingredients may be obtained through the rocks."
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1597 Woodcut deriding {T.NASHE} with *CHAINS* around his ankles.
Richard Lichfield's _The Trimming of {T}homas {NASHE}, Gentleman_.
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. Antony and Cleopatra Act 5, Scene 2
.
CLEOPATRA: Shall they hoyst me up,
. And shew me to the showting Varlotarie
. Of cen(S)uring Rom(E)? Rather a d(I)tch in Egy(P)t.
. Be gentle grave unto me, rather on *NYLUS mudd(E)*
. Lay me starke-nak'd, and let the water-Flies
. B(L)ow me into abhorring; rather make
. My Countr(I|E}s h{I}gh {P}YRAMIDES my Gibbet,
. And HANG me up *I(N) CHAINES*.
.
(NILE) -36
(PIES) -9
{PIE} -3
.............................................
*Victorious though IN CHAINS* ) "In Vinculus Invictus"
Motto in Tower Painting: http://www.gorki.net/Art/fa12.html
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http://www.philological.bham.ac.uk/anagrams/
.............................................
. HENRICUS URIOTHESLEUS
_____ per anagramma
. THESEUS NIL REUS HIC RUO
.
. [I]ure quidem poteras hanc fundere ab ore querelam,
. [S]ors tibi dum ficto crimine dura fuit:
."[N]IL reus en Theseus censura sortis iniquae
. [H]ic ruo, livoris traditus arbitrio."
. [A]t nunc mutanda ob mutata pericla querela est.
. [I]nclite, an innocuo pectore teste rues?
. [N]on sane. Hac haeres vacuo dat *VIVERE* cura,
. [C]ollati imperii sub Iove sceptra gerens.
.............................................
. *ISNHAINC* {anagram} *IN CHAINS*
.
*Victorious though IN CHAINS* ) "In Vinculus Invictus"
Motto in Tower Painting: http://www.gorki.net/Art/fa12.html
.............................................
. HENRY WRIOTHESLEY by an anagram
. ('HERE I FALL, *THESEUS, GUILTY OF NOTHING* ')
.
http://www.philological.bham.ac.uk/anagrams/text.html
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. HENRICUS URIOTHESLEUS
. THESEUS NIL REUS HIC RUO
_____ per anagramma
. {CHETH} SS [UERO NIL UERIUS]
.............................................
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heth

{CHETH} is the eighth letter of the Semitic abjads.

The letter shape ultimately goes back to a hieroglyph for "courtyard."
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(1603) Francis Davison’s
Anagrammata in Nomina Illustrissimorum Heroum
.............................................
http://www.philological.bham.ac.uk/anagrams/text.html
.
____ *EDOUDARUS V(e)IERUS*
_____ per anagramma
____ *AURE SURDUS VIDEO*
.
{A} uribus hisce licet studio, Fortuna, susurros
{PE} r[F]idiae et technas efficis esse procul,
. [A]ttamen accipio (quae mens horrescit e[T] auris)
. Rebus facta malis corpora surd[A] tenus.
. Imo etiam cerno Catilinae¶ fraude propinquos
. Funere solventes [FATA] aliena suo.

[FATA] 1,32
.............................................
_______ *EDWARD VERE*
______ by an anagram
____ *DEAF IN MY EAR, I SEE*

Though by your zeal, FORTUNE, you keep perfidy's
murmurs & schemings at a distance, nonetheless I learn
(at which my mind & ear *QUAKE*) that our bodies have
been deafened with respect to evil affairs. Indeed,
I perceive men who come close to Catiline* in deception,
freeing other men's [FATES] by their death.
----------------------------------------------------
. Romeo and Juliet (Quarto 1, 1597) The Prologue.
.
Tvvo houshold Frends alike in dignitie,
(In faire VEROna, where we lay our Scene)
From ciuill broyles broke into enmitie,
VVhose ciuill warre makes ciuill hands vncleane.
.
[F]rom forth the *[FATA]ll* loynes of these two foes,
[A] paire o{F} starre-crost Louers tooke their life:
. {VV}hose mis{A}duentures, piteous ouerthrowes,
[T]hrough the con{T}inuing of their Fathers strife,
[A]nd death-markt p{A}ssage of their Parents rage
...............
{FATA} 41
...............
Is now the two howres traffique of our Stage.
The which if you with patient EARES attend,
. {VV}hat *HERE we [WANT]* wee'l studie to amend.
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http://www.sourcetext.com/sourcebook/etexts/pandora/01.htm
..........................................................
PANDORA, The Musyque of the beautie of his Mistresse Diana.
Composed by John Soowthern / Gentleman,
and dedicated to the right / Honorable,
Edward Deuer, Earle / of Oxenford, & c. 1584.
...................................................
To the ryght honourable the Earle of Oxenford. & c.
...................................................
Epode #1

. No, no, the finger is his
. Alone : that in the ende must bee
. Made proude, with a garland lyke this,
. [A]nd not ev'rie ryming novice,
. [T]hat writes with small wit, and much paine:
. [A]nd the (Gods knowe) idiot in vaine,
. [F]or it's not the way to Parnasse,
. Nor it wyll neither come to passe,
. If it be not in some wis(E) fic(T)ion,
. (A)nd o(F) an ingenious invension :
. And in(F)anted with pleas(A)nt travaill,
. [F]or i(T) alone must win th(E) Laurell.
. [A]nd onelie the Poet well borne,
. [M]ust be he that goes to Parnassus :
. [A]nd not these companies of Asses,
. That have brought verce almost to scorne.
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V E N V S A N D A D O N I S

Vilia miretur vulgus: mihi flavus Apollo
Pocula Castalia plena ministret aqua.
.....................................................
P. Ovidius Naso, Amores, Elegy 15

Vilia miretur vulgus; mihi flavus Apollo
Pocula Castalia plena ministret aqua,
Sustineamque coma metuentem (F)rigor(A) myrtu(M),
Atque (A) sollicito multus amante legar!
Pascitur in vivis Livor; post [FATA] quiescit,
Cum suus ex merito quemque tuetur honos.
Ergo etiam cum me supremus adederit ignis,
Vivam, parsque mei multa superstes erit.

(FAMA) 6
[FATA] 1
.....................................................
Ben Jonson translation:

Kneele hindes to trash: me let bright Phoebus swell,
With cups [F]ull (F)lowing from the Muses well.
(T)he frost-drad myrtle sh[A]ll imp{A}le my head,
(A)nd of s(A)d lovers Ile be often read.
(E)nvy [T]he living, not {T}he dead, doth bite.
(F)or after dea(T)h all men r[E]ceive their right.
Th{E}n when this body falls in funeral fire,
My nam(E) shall live, and my best part aspire.

[FATE] 47,53,64 : Prob. of 3[FATE]s ~ 1 in 143
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. [ON POET-{APE}] EPIGRAMS by Ben Jonson
.
Poor *POET-APE* , that would be thought our chief,
. Whose works are {E}'en the {F}rippery of wit,
[F]rom brokage is become so bold a {T}hief,
. As we, the robb'd, le{A}ve rage, and pity it.
[A]t {F}irst he m{A}de low shifts, would pick and gle{A}n,
. Buy {T}he rEVERsion o{F} old plays ; now grown
[T]o a little wealth, and credit in th{E} scene,
. H{E} takes up all, makes each man's wit his own :
[A]nd, told o{F} this, he slights it. Tut, such crimes
. The sluggish gaping {A}uditor devours ;
. He marks not whose 'twas first : and after-{T}imes
. May judge it to be his, as well as ours.
. Fool ! as if half {E}yes will not know a fleece
. From locks of wool, or shreds from the whole piece ?

{FATE} 35,-45,46,58 : Prob. of 4{FATE}s ~ 1 in 27
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. Wm Shaxpere & Anna *WHATEley* of Temple Grafton
....................................................
<<There is an old English word *WHATE* ,
. meaning fortune, [FATE] , or destiny,
I think that in a desperate moment of inspiration,
confused before the clerk, Shakespeare reached into
his heart and came out with the name of that Anne
who would have been his choice, his [FATE], his destiny.>>
...................................................
. - _The Late Mr. Shakespeare_ by Robert Nye
-------------------------------------------------------------
. http://home.freeuk.net/sidsoft/pensinfo.html
.
The Sidney Family arms shows a *PORCUPINE* & a lion
. on either side of the Sidney PHEON.
.
"Whither the [FATES] call" is the meaning of Sidney's motto:
____ *QUO [FATA] VOCANT*

"Whither the [FATES] carry" is the meaning of Bermuda's motto:
____ *QUO [FATA] FERUNT*
----------------------------------------------------
. Hamlet > Act I, scene IV
.
HAMLET: My *FATE CRIES OUT* ,
. And makes each petty artery in this body
. As hardy as the Nemean lion's nERVE.
. *STILL am I CALL'D* .
----------------------------------------------------
. Sonnet 87
.
. [F]or how do I hold thee but by thy granting,
. [A]nd for that ritches where is my deSERVing?
. [T]he cause of this *FAIRE* guift in me is wanting,
. [A]nd so my pattent back againe is sweruing.
----------------------------­-------------­-----------
. . . Sonnet 70

. That thou are b{L}am'd sh{A}ll not {B}e thy d{E}fect,
. [F|O}r slanders m{A}rke was EUER yet the *(F)AIRE* ,
. The [ORN(A)MENT] of {B}eau(T)y is (SUS)pect,
. [A] Crow that fli[E]s in hea[V|E}ns swe[E]{TEST} ay[R]e.
. {SO} tho[U] be good,[S]lander d{O}th but approue,
. [T]heir *WORTH* the greater beeing woo'd of TIME,
. {F}or Canker vice the sweetest buds doth loue,
. [A]nd thou present'st a pure vnstayined prime.
. {T}hou hast past by the ambush of young daies,
. {E}ither not assayld, or victor beeing charg'd,
. Yet this thy *PRAISE* cannot be soe thy *PRAISE* ,
. To tye vp *ENUY*, EUERmore inlarged,
. If some (SUS)pect of ill *MASKT not thy show*,
. Then thou alone kingdomes of hearts shouldst owe.
....................................................
. <= 7 =>
.
. A C r o w
. t h a t f l i
. [E] s i n h e a
. [V] e n s s w e
. [E]{T E S T}a y
. [R] e{S O}t h o
. [U] b e g o o d,
. [S] l a n d e r
.................................................
. [E.VERUS] 7 : Prob. in any Sonnet ~ 1 in 55
.................................................
__ <= 35 =>
.
. t h ouareb {L} amd s h{A}llnot{B}et h y d{E}fect[F|O}rs
. l a ndersm {A} rke w a s EUERy e tt h e(F)A IRET h e OR
. N(A)MENTof {B} eau(T)y i sSUSp e ct[A]C r o wtha t f li
. e s inheau {E} nss w e e testa y re.S o t h oube g o od
. s l anderd {O} thb u t a pprou e
.
{LABEO} 6,35 : Prob. 2{LABEO}s start any Sonnet ~ 1 in 740
(FATA) 11
.........................................................
. *John Marston* Satire note:
.
. So {LABEO} did complain his love was *STONE*,
. Obdurate, flinty, so relentless none:
. Yet Lynceus knows that in the end of this
. He wrought as *STRANGE a metamorphosis*.
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____ SONNET 60
.
. LIke as the waues make towards the pibled shore,
. So do our minuites hasten to [T]heir end,
. Each [C]hanging plac[E] with that whi[C]h goes before,
. [I]n sequent toi[L]e all forwards do contend.
. Natiuity once in the maine of light.
. Crawles to maturity, wherewith being crown'd,
. *CROOKED ECLIPSES* gainst his glory fight,
. [A]nd time that gaue, doth now his gift confound.
. [T]ime doth transfixe the florish set on youth,
. [A]nd delues the paralels in beauties brow,
.([F]EEDE)s on the rarities of natures *TRUTH* ,
. And nothing stands but for his sieth to mow.
. And yet to times in hope, my verse shall stand
. Praising thy *WORTH*, dispight his cruell hand.
................................................
___ <= 12 =>

. S o d o o u r m i n u (I)
. t e s h a s t e n t o [T]
. h e i r e n d,E a c h [C]
. h a n g i n g p l a c [E]
. w i t h t h a t w h i [C]
. h g o e s b e f o r e,[I]
. n s e q u e n t t o i [L]
. e a l l f o r w a r d s
. d o c o n t e n d.

[T.CECIL] 12 prob. in Sonnets ~ 1 in 67
................................................
[T]homas [CECIL]: only Garter vote for Oxford.
President of the Council of the NORTH: 1599–1603

Robert CECIL: *CROOKED ECLIPSES* ?
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http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~ahnelson/ARMADA/1589Engl.html

Armada Pamphlets Commissioned by Burghley

An Answer to the vntruthes, pvblished and printed in Spaine, in glorie
of their svpposed victorie atchieued against our English Navie, and
the Right Honorable Charles Lord Howard, Lord high Admiral of England,
&c. Sir Francis Drake, and the rest of the Nobles and Gentlemen,
Captaines, and Soldiers of our said Navie. First written and published
in Spanish By a Spanish Gentleman; who came hither out of the Lowe
Countries from the service of the prince of Parma, with his wife
and familie, since the overthrowe of the Spanish Armada, forsaking
both his countrie and Romish religion; as by this Treatise
(against the barbarous impietie of the Spaniards; and
dedicated to the Queenes most excellent Majestie, may appeere.

Faithfully translated by I. L. [Ihon Lyllie?/Iames Leigh?]

London, Printed by Iohn Iackson, for Thomas Cadman. 1589.
.....................................................
. (L. Admirall)
. The Admirall with Lion on his creast,
. {l}ike to {A}lcides on the strond o{F} Troy:
. [A]rmd at {A}ssaie, to ba{T}tell is addre{A}st:
. [T]he sea that sawe his frownes, w{A}xt calme and coy,
. [A]s when that Neptune with three{F}orked mase,
. [F]or Trojans sake, did keepe the winds in chase.

{FATA} 11,-40
.....................................................
. (Earle of Oxford)
. De-Vere whose *FAME* , and loyaltie hath pearst,
. The Tuscan clime, and through the Belgike lands,
. By winged *FAME* , for valor is rehearst:
. Like warlike Mars upon the hatches stands,
. His tusked Bore gan fome for inwarde ire,
. While *PALLAS* fild his breast, with warlike fire.
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Art Neuendorffer
nordicskiv2
2018-04-08 19:19:27 UTC
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On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 8:58:41 PM UTC-4, Arthur Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter) wrote:

[Many moronic megabytes of crackpot cryptography snipped]

Art N.

(Marco is on vacation, so *somebody* has to do it!)
Arthur Neuendorffer
2018-04-08 20:01:40 UTC
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Post by nordicskiv2
[Many moronic megabytes of crackpot cryptography snipped]
(Marco is on vacation, so *somebody* has to do it!)
Is that what the Grand Master told you?

Art N.
nordicskiv2
2018-04-09 13:21:27 UTC
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Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
Post by nordicskiv2
[Many moronic megabytes of crackpot cryptography snipped]
(Marco is on vacation, so *somebody* has to do it!)
Is that what the Grand Master told you?
Even if he existed, why on earth would he bother, Art?! You said yourself that nobody reads your posts!
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