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Arthur Neuendorffer
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WHO WROTE DON QUIXOTE? By Francis Carr
Book Review by Mather Walker 2008

Francis Carr shows us that the book itself states
emphatically 33 times that Cid Hamet Benengeli, not Cervantes
was the author. For example, the Thomas Shelton translation,
in chapter 1 of Book 2 of the Part One of Don Quixote, says:

. "The historie of Don-Quixote of the Mancha,
. . written by Cid Hamet Benegeli"
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. . . . . . . . SONNET 33
.
. Full many a glorious morning have I seen
. Flatter the mountain tops with *soVEREign EYE*
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. . . <= SONNET 33 (=3[H]s+{I}) =>
.
T O T [H] E O N L I E B E G E T T E R O F T H E S E I N S V I N G S
O N N [E T] S M R W H A L L H A P P I N E S S E A N D T H A T E T E
R N I [T{I}E] P R O M I S E D B Y O V R E V E R L I V I N G P O E T
W I S [H E T H] T H E W E L L W I S H I N G A D V E N T V R E R I N
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. . . . . . <= 33.5 =>
.
. .T O T [H] E O N L I E B E G E T T E R O F T H E S E I N S V I N G S
. O N N [E T] S M R W H A L L H A P P I N E S S E A N D T H A T E T E
.R N I [T{I}E] P R O M I S E D B Y O V R E V E R L I V I N G P O E T
W I S [H E T H] T H E W E L L W I S H I N G A D V E N T V R E R I N
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. . . <= SONNET 34 (=3[HETH]s+{YODH}) =>

T O T [H] E O N L I E B E G E T T E R O F T H E S E I N S V I N G S O
N N [E T] S M R W H A L L H A P P I N E S S E A N D T H A T E T E R N
I [T{I}E] P R O M I S E D B Y O V R E V E R L I V I N G P O E T W I S
[H E T H] T H E W E L L W I S H I N G A D V E N T V R E R I N
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ABRAHAM purchased the Cave Of Machpelah from the sons of [HETH].
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Bridge_(Virginia)

<<Herman Melville alluded to Virginia’s [HETH?]
. Natural Bridge bridge in describing Moby-Dick:
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. . THE WHALE : CHAPTER 133. THE CHASE—FIRST DAY
.
And thus, through the serene tranquillities of the tropical sea, among
waves whose hand-clappings were suspended by exceeding rapture, Moby
Dick moved on, still withholding from sight the full terrors of his
submerged trunk, entirely hiding the wrenched hideousness of his jaw.
But soon the fore part of him slowly rose from the water; for an
instant his whole marbleized body formed a high arch, like Virginia’s
Natural Bridge, and warningly waving his bannered flukes in the air,
the grand god revealed himself, sounded, and went out of sight.
Hoveringly halting, and dipping on the wing, the white sea-fowls
longingly lingered over the agitated pool that he left.
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. . THE WHALE : CHAPTER 79. THE PRAIRE
.
<<Champollion deciphered the wrinkled granite hieroglyphics. But there
is no Champollion to decipher the Egypt of EVERy man’s and EVERy being’s
face. Physiognomy, like EVERy other human science, is but a passing fable.
If then, Sir William Jones, who read in thirty languages, could not read
the simplest peasant’s face, in its profounder and more subtle meanings,
how may unlettered Ishmael hope to read the awful Chaldee of
the Sperm Whale’s brow? I but put that brow before you.
. . . . Read if it you can.>>
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Finnegans Wake p.332 (8th 100 letter *THUNDER* word)
http://everything2.com/title/thunderword

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Snip snap snoody. *Noo err historyend goody*.
Of a lil trip trap and a big treeskooner for he
put off the ketyl and they made three (for fie!) and
if hec dont love alpy then lad you annoy me. For hanigen
with hunigen still haunt ahunt to finnd their hinnigen

where - Pappappapparrassannuaragheallach[N]atullaghm[O]ngan
macma[C]macwhackf[A]lltherdeb[B]lenonthedubblandaddydoodled
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Joyce would have been familiar with the
simple gematria cipher the letters of [BACON] = #33
and :FRANCIS BACON: = #100

[BACON] cipher starts on the #33rd letter of #100 letters:
..................................
. . . . <= 10 x 10 =>
.
. . P a. p (p) a. p p a p p
. . a r. r (a) s. s a n n u
. . a r. a (g) h. e a l l a
. . c h [N](a) t. u l l a g
. . h m [O](n)(g) a n m a c
. . m a [C] m (a) c w h a c
. . k f [A] l (l) t h e r d
. . e b [B] l (e) n o n t h
. . e d. u .b. b .l a n d a
. . d d. y .d. o .o d l e d
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James Joyces' Finnegans Wake : _____ . . . 628 pages
Francis Bacon's *PROMUS* : ________ . . . . 628 pages
Francis Meres's *Palladis Tamia, Wits Treasury* : 628 pages
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Alan Green - presenting "Dee-Coding Shakespeare"


got me thinking about the mispagination of page: 273/265
http://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/283/?zoom=850

So I did an ELS search for the top of page: 264
http://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/282/?zoom=850

...and discovered: {M}[MASONS]{r} skip 33 = 264/(273-265) :
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. Twelfth Night (First Folio, 1623) top of page 264: II, v
.
{M}al. Ioue knowes I loue, but who, Lips do not [M]ooue, no
. man must know. No man must know. Wh[A]t followes?
. The numbers alter'd: No man mu[S]t know,
. If this should be thee Maluolio?
.
T[O]. Marrie hang thee brock(E).
.
Mal. I may comma[N]d where I adore, but silenc(E) like a Lu-
. cre[S]se knife:
. With bloodlesse st(R)oke my hea{r}t doth gor(E), {M}.O.A.I. d{O}th
. sw{A}y my l{I|F|E).
.
Fa. *A FUSTIAN RIDDLE*!
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............ <= 33 = 264/(273-265) =>
.
. {M} alIou. e kn o. w e s I l. o. uebu. t w h o L i p. sdonot
. [M] oouen. o ma n. m u s t k. n. owNo. m a n m u s t. knowWh
. [A] tfoll. o we s. T h e n u. m. bers. a l t e r d N. omanmu
. [S] tknow. I ft h. i s s h o. u. ldbe. t h e e M a l. uolioT
. [O] Marri. e ha n. g t h e e. b. rock (E)M a l I m a. ycomma
. [N] dwher. e Ia d. o r e b u. t. sile. n c(E)l i k e. aLucre
. [S] sekni (F)eW i. t h b l o. o. dles. s e s t(R)o k. emyhea
. {r} tdoth. g or(E){M O A I}d {O} thsw {A}y m y l{I|F)(E)
.
{M}[MASONS]{r} 33 : [MASONS] Prob. here ~ 1 in 1470
(FREE) -35,18 : Prob. of both here ~ 1 in 135
{MOAI} 5,1
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There are 33 degrees in Scottish Rite Freemasonry

The House of the Temple, Home of The Supreme Council, 33°,
{A}ncient & {A}ccepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in D.C.,
has 33 outer columns which are each 33 feet high.

A normal human spine has 33 vertebrae when the bones
that form the coccyx are counted individually

33 is the number of years that it takes for the Lunar phase to
return to its original position in relation to the Solar calendar.

33 is the largest positive integer that cannot be
expressed as a sum of different triangular numbers.

33 is the sum of the first four positive factorials.

33 is the sum of the sum of the divisors of the first 6 positive integers.

33 is the first double digit centered dodecahedral number.
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from: _Big Secrets_ William Poundstone
https://sites.google.com/site/zprime21/

Masonic Secret Word: Not to be confused with the password. The Word (always capitalized) is so secret that initiates are taught it one letter at a time. First they learn A, then O, then M, and finally I. The Word is *IAOM*. You never get a straight story as to what it means. As best as anyone can figure, it is the ineffable name of god, or some approximation thereof. The Word (or Name) is a internal linktongue-internal linktwister. It takes some practice to get it right.
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_Masonry and Its Symbols in the Light of Thinking and Destiny_
by Harold Waldwin Percival (15 April 1868 - 6 March 1953):

https://tandd.org/hlib/masonry-and-its-symbols/section06.html

<<The Word, an English translation of the Logos, as used by St. John, is not the Name. It is an expression of the full Triune Self powers, each of the three parts being represented in it by a sound, and the perfect body in which the Triune Self dwells being also represented by a sound. The Doer part is expressed as A, the Thinker part as U or O, the Knower part as M, and the perfect body as I. The Word is I-A-O-M, in four syllables or letters. The expression of the perfect body and the Triune Self as these sounds is an expression of the Conscious Light of the Intelligence through that Self and body. When a part in its physical body sounds as *IAOM* each of the parts sounds AOM, and each represents a Logos. The Knower is then the First Logos, the Thinker the Second Logos and the Doer the Third Logos.

The Word is symbolized by a circle in which are a hexad of two interlaced triangles, and the point in the center. The point is the M, the triangle Aries, Leo, Sagittary is the A, the triangle Gemini, Libra, Aquarius is the U or the O, and the circle is the fully expressed point M as well as the line of the body I. The hexad is made up of the macrocosmic signs standing for the sexless triad and the androgynous triad, the triangle of God as Intelligence and the triangle of God as nature. These letters in which the perfect Self sounds, are symbolized in Masonry by the square and compass or the emblem of the interlaced triangles.

There is a succinct relationship of the Word with the Ineffable Name. The Word is feeling-and-desire, the Doer. The Doer is lost in the body of flesh and blood in the world of life and death. Thus the Doer is the lost Word. The body, when perfected, serves as the instrument through which the Doer pronounces the Ineffable Name. The Ineffable Name and the embodied Word, when one is fitted to speak it, is IAOM. By so doing the body is raised from a horizontal to an upright position.

The Name is pronounced as follows: It is started by opening the lips with an “ee” sound graduating into a broad “a” as the mouth opens wider with the lips forming an oval shape and then graduating the sound to “o” as the lips form a circle, and again modulating to an “m” sound as the lips close to a point. This point resolves itself to a point within the head.

Expressed phonetically the Name is “EE-Ah-Oh-Mmm” and is pronounced with one continuous outbreathing with a slight nasal tone in the manner described above. It can be correctly and properly expressed with its full power only by one who has brought his physical body to a state of perfection, that is, balanced and sexless.>>
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hreget wrote:

http://home.uchicago.edu/~jorgea/untitled%20folder/Riddle%20simplified.pdf
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*MA[LVOL]IO* : *MO[VOLL]AI* : *MO[FULL]AI*
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Twelfe Night, Or what you will.
Actus Primus, Scaena Prima.
Enter Orsino Duke of Illyria, Curio, and other
Lords.

Duke : IF Musicke be the food of Loue, play on,!
Giue me excesse of it: that surfetting,
The appetite may sicken, and so dye.
That straine agen, it had a dying fall:
O, it came ore my eare, like the sweet sound
That breathes vpon a banke of Violets;
Stealing, and giuing Odour. Enough, no more,
'Tis not so sweet now, as it was before.
O spirit of Loue, how quicke and fresh art thou,
That notwithstanding thy capacitie,
Receiueth as the Sea. Nought enters there,
Of what validity, and pitch so ere,
But falles into abatement, and low price
Euen in a minute; so [FULL] of shapes is fancie,
That it alone, is high fantasticall.
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*MA[LVOL]IO* : *MO[VOLL]AI* :
I haue lymde her, but it is Ioues doing, and Ioue make me
thanke[FULL]. And when she went away now, let this Fel-
low be look'd too: Fellow? not *MA[LVOL]IO*, nor after my
degree, but Fellow. Why [EVERY] thing adheres togither,
that no dramme of a scruple, no scruple of a scruple, no
obstacle, no incredulous or vnsafe circumstance: What
can be saide? Nothing that can be, can come betweene
me, and the [FULL] prospect of my hopes. Well Ioue, not I,
is the doer of this, and he is to be thanked.
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Toby : That defence thou hast, betake the too't: of what
nature the wrongs are thou hast done him, I knowe not:
but thy intercepter [FULL] of despight, bloody as the Hun-
ter, attends thee at the Orchard end: dismount thy tucke,
be yare in thy preparation, for thy assaylant is quick, skil-
[FULL], and deadly.
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Art Neuendorffer
nordicskiv2
2021-08-14 19:15:28 UTC
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http://youtu.be/vYIXW8BMUdY
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WHO WROTE DON QUIXOTE? By Francis Carr
I refer you to the third stanza of the following short poem by an unknown poet, Art:
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No doubt Art N.'s a myst'ry: catagenesis can best
Explain an MIT alum's descent to butt of jest.
Art's ciphering and anagramming clamor for improvements ——
Indeed, his "anagrams" amount at best to vowel movements.
Not even the most trenchant-tongued and wittiest weblogger'll
Surpass Art Neuendorffer in composing slapdash doggerel.
He's the bafflement of newsgroups, the Goon Squad's droll despair:
For when he posts his claptrap, Neuendorffer's not all there!

Droll Neufer, dimwit Neufer, he is unlike any other ——
Indeed, he thinks* Anne Hathaway was William Shakespeare's mother! ——
And proffers other pratfalls that are almost as bizarre:
He thinks* that Aleksandr Nevskii once was Russia's tsar!
Authoritative, like a mage, he'll brandish Aaron's rod at us,
Declaring _ex cathédra_: Virgil came before Herodotus**.
You seek him at the Fellowship, that online Tudor Heir
Adherents' loony bin —— but Neuendorffer's not all there!

To paraphrase Bush Junior***, it's an open- and a shut-case
That Arthur Neuendorffer is the drollest newsgroup nutcase:
He swallows every crackpot theory Alex Jones could want -- he's
An advocate of Francis Carr's insane book on Cervantes!
He dotes on crackpot web sites with the insight of a sheep†,
And when you think he's wide awake, his mind is sound asleep.

With ciphers, crackpot codes, and bungled anagrams he plays,
And when he reads the newsgroup, Neuendorffer oft displays
Credulity that's perfect to try out Hermetic lore on ——
For no one does a better imitation of a moron.
He "reads" and he "researches" with an anti-Stratford flair:
As is typical of Antis, Neuendorffer's not all there!

Believing life's a code, Art scorns coincidences —— but
His ISP (coincidence?) was comicass.nut.
(He's changed his ISP, and used a different name thereafter ——
Since then, his trolling _nom de plume_’s been Arthur Noonedafter.)
His talk in Baltimore made all the Fellowshippers stare ——
For when Art took the lectern, he was plainly not all there!

He's outwardly respectable. (He cheats at anagrams††.)
He stalks the bogus Freemasonic fakes: Lieutenant Hamms,
The William Wilsons, Whateleys, Burbages, and Hathaways,
And yet his great achievement lies in sorting Peter Gays.
Such cluelessness elicits not just mirth, but also pity:
Art thinks* that someone traveling from Yale to New York City
Who’s shuttling from New Haven to Manhattan for the day
Would surely board a nonstop flight from Boston to LA!

They say that all the anti-Strat eccentrics who've appeared
(I might mention "Dr." Faker, I might mention Lizzie Weird)
Recount hallucinations from a vivid acid trip,
But Art outstrips††† them all: he's the Clouseau of authorship!

* Usual disclaimer: One is reluctant to misuse the verb "to think" with Art as its subject, since Art's mental processes clearly require some alternative designation.

** In his effort to keep up with the Caruanas and the Streitzes, Art surpasses both in his comic Reign of Error.

*** George W. Bush, that consummate prose stylist whose English Art's most closely resembles.

† This line is perhaps unfair to sheep:


<http://tinyurl.com/opg9m7b>.

†† He cheats at equidistant letter sequences as well. Perhaps the most charitable explanation for both anomalies is that Neuendorffer cannot count or cannot read -- not that the two possibilities are necessarily mutually exclusive.

††† In view of Art's lengthy track record of stumbles and pratfalls, perhaps "out-trips" is more the _mot juste_.
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Speaking of George W. Bush in that third stanza, Art, do you know two ways in which Bush resembles Oxford -- besides the obvious fact that both were incompetent in the use of English?

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. . . <= SONNET 33 (=3[H]s+{I}) =>
.
T O T [H] E O N L I E B E G E T T E R O F T H E S E I N S V I N G S
No Art; that's not Shakespeare's sonnet 33. That sonnet begins as follows: "Full many a glorious morning have I seen..."
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
O N N [E T] S M R W H A L L H A P P I N E S S E A N D T H A T E T E
R N I [T{I}E] P R O M I S E D B Y O V R E V E R L I V I N G P O E T
W I S [H E T H] T H E W E L L W I S H I N G A D V E N T V R E R I N
Huh? Was there supposed to have been any point to the above effusion of crackpot cryptography, Art? If so, what was it?
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
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. . . . . . <= 33.5 =>
Huh?! Are you referring to the (nonexistent) Sonnet 33.5, or to an equally nonexistent equidistant letter sequence, supposedly of skip 33.5?

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
. . . <= SONNET 34 (=3[HETH]s+{YODH}) =>
T O T [H] E O N L I E B E G E T T E R O F T H E S E I N S V I N G S O
No, Art; that's not Shakespeare's sonnet 34. That sonnet begins: "Why didst thou promise such a beauteous day..."

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
ABRAHAM purchased the Cave Of Machpelah from the sons of [HETH].
Huh? So what?

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
Joyce would have been familiar with the
simple gematria cipher the [sic] letters of [BACON] = #33
and :FRANCIS BACON: = #100
Is English your native tongue, Art?

[Crackpot cryptography snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
James Joyces' Finnegans Wake : _____ . . . 628 pages
No, Art; the number of pages depends upon the edition that one has in mind (or in your case, Art, in whateVER is left of it).
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
Francis Bacon's *PROMUS* : ________ . . . . 628 pages
Francis Meres's *Palladis Tamia, Wits Treasury* : 628 pages
Yawn. So what?
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
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Alan Green - presenting "Dee-Coding Shakespeare"
http://youtu.be/upzjM7-83LE
got me thinking
Don't forget the usual disclaimer, Art! How many times must I remind you?!
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
about the mispagination of page: 273/265
http://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/283/?zoom=850
So I did an ELS search
You would be best advised to confine yourself to searches for ESL for the time being, Art.

[Crackpot cryptography snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
There are 33 degrees in Scottish Rite Freemasonry
The Scottish Rite did not even exist until 1801, Art; thus it is utterly irrelevant to discussions of Shakespeare. Indeed, the earlier system that eventually became the Scottish Rite had only 25 degrees.

[Lunatic logorrhea snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
A normal human spine has 33 vertebrae when the bones
that form the coccyx are counted individually
Huh? So What?
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
33 is the number of years that it takes for the Lunar phase to
return to its original position in relation to the Solar calendar.
33 is the largest positive integer that cannot be
expressed as a sum of different triangular numbers.
33 is the sum of the first four positive factorials.
33 is the sum of the sum of the divisors of the first 6 positive integers.
33 is the first double digit centered dodecahedral number.
Don't forget your earlier nutcase numerology, Art -- it is also both the sum of two consecutive integers and the difference of their squares.

[Hermetic horse manure snipped]
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
http://home.uchicago.edu/~jorgea/untitled%20folder/Riddle%20simplified.pdf
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*MA[LVOL]IO* : *MO[VOLL]AI* : *MO[FULL]AI*
No, Art; "FULL" is not an anagram of "VOLL".

Incidentally, Art, do you know what distinguishes real scholarship from your crackpot cryptography?
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
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Art Neuendorffer (aka Noonedafter)
Arthur Neuendorffer
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ABRAHAM purchased the Cave Of Machpelah from the sons of [HETH].
DWEB wrote: <<Huh? So what?>>

Unlike Ulysses,
. . FW "ends" NOT with a *YES* but a *THE*:

<<"A way a lone a last a loved a long *THE* [...] riverrun,
past Eve and Adam's, from SW-ERVE of shore to bend of bay,...>>
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. . . . . . . . SONNET 33
.
. Full many a glorious morning have I seen
. Flatter the mountain tops with *soVEREign EYE*
......................................................
. . . . . . . . <= 33.5 =>
.
. .T O T [H] E O N L I E B E G E T T E R O F T H E S E I N S V I N G S
. O N N [E T] S M R W H A L L H A P P I N E S S E A N D T H A T E T E
.R N I [T{I}E] P R O M I S E D B Y O V R E V E R L I V I N G P O E T
W I S [H E T H] T H E W E L L W I S H I N G A D V E N T V R E R I N
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Finnegans Wake p.332 (8th 100 letter *THUNDER* word)
http://everything2.com/title/thunderword
http://youtu.be/5dVI2FnK4-Q
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Snip snap snoody. *Noo err historyend goody*.
Of a lil trip trap and a big treeskooner for he
put off the ketyl and they made three (for fie!) and
if hec dont love alpy then lad you annoy me. For hanigen
with hunigen still haunt ahunt to finnd their hinnigen

where - Pappappapparrassannuaragheallach[N]atullaghm[O]ngan
macma[C]macwhackf[A]lltherdeb[B]lenonthedubblandaddydoodled
............................................................
[BACON] cipher starts on the #33rd letter of #100 letters:
..................................
. . . . <= 10 x 10 =>
.
. . P a. p (p) a. p p a p p
. . a r. r (a) s. s a n n u
. . a r. a (g) h. e a l l a
. . c h [N](a) t. u l l a g
. . h m [O](n)(g) a n m a c
. . m a [C] m (a) c w h a c
. . k f [A] l (l) t h e r d
. . e b [B] l (e) n o n t h
. . e d. u .b. b .l a n d a
. . d d. y .d. o .o d l e d
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Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
Joyce would have been familiar with the
simple gematria cipher of *THE* letters
of [BACON] = #33 and :FRANCIS BACON: = #100
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Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
James Joyces' Finnegans Wake : _____ . . . 628 pages
DWEB wrote:

<<No, Art; the number of pages depends upon the edition.>>

. . . Faber & Faber, Viking, Penguin . . . 628 pages
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https://finwakeatx.blogspot.com/2017/

Saturday, December 2, 2017
Some Fun with "riverrun"

<<Our local Wake reading group recently cycled from the somber lines of Anna Livia Plurabelle's bittersweet closing monologue back over to the first page of Finnegans Wake: "A way a lone a last a loved a long the [...] riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs." (FW 628-3)

Bill Cole Cliett's excellent book Riverrun to Livvy adds some further threads of meaning. He describes ALP as "the river of life, the universal solvent in which all dissolves to mix and mingle and recombine, *EVER* changing, *EVER* the same." (Cliett p. 110) He mentions that Joyce likely got his "riverrun" from Coleridge's poem "Kubla Khan":

. . "Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
. . Through caverns measureless to man
. . . . Down to a sunless sea."

"Alph" certainly suggests ALP. Cliett notes that Alph is supposedly "based on Alpheus from Greek mythology, a river that was believed to run under the sea. In a similar sense, ALP may run under a literary sea from page 628 to page 3." (Cliett p. 111)>>
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https://joycegeek.com/2015/01/08/artmath/

The Mathematics of Art / The Aesthetics of Math
by JoyceGeek

<<No surprise then that circles should be ubiquitous in Finnegans Wake – from the frequent use of words like ’round’, ‘ring’, ‘circle’, etc. in its pages to the circular structure of the book as a whole. Joyce was pleased when his book wound up being exactly 628 pages long, for 6.28 is 2π – the formula for the circumference of a circle.>>
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Say Dave, you should be teaching about 2π
just like Mike Penn does:

. .

Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
Francis Bacon's *PROMUS* : ________ . . . . 628 pages
Francis Meres's *Palladis Tamia, Wits Treasury* : 628 pages
DWEB wrote: <<Yawn. So what?>>
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https://finwakeatx.blogspot.com/2015/03/yawn-wails.html

. . . . . Yawn Wails

<<The opening finds a giant sleeping figure, Yawn, whose yawns and sleepy groans create huge gusts of wind. His Brobdingnagian sleeping body is also an enormous, otherworldly mountain. Four chroniclers (and their donkey) approach the mountain-body, braving treacherous winds and an impossible ascent, "traversing climes of old times gone by of the days not worth remembering" (FW p. 474), and screaming in fear (in seven different languages) at the imposing, astronomical size of Yawn. "His bellyvoid of nebulose with his neverstop navel... his veins shooting melanite phosphor, his creamtocustard cometshair and his asteroid knuckles, ribs, and members... His electrolatiginous twisted entrails belt." (p. 475)

The purpose of their journey is to "hold their sworn *starchamber* quiry on him" (p. 475), conducting an odd examination on this windy, thunderous mountaintop. Out of this sleeping mountain-body the four questioners summon the voices of history like a séance, using some mysterious combination of electromagnetic radio waves and wireless telephony. The sleepy Yawn is resistant to their efforts, but they persist with hypnotic, psychological techniques and eventually summon out the voices of all of the Wake's characters, speaking through the medium of Yawn.>>
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
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Alan Green - presenting "Dee-Coding Shakespeare"
http://youtu.be/upzjM7-83LE
got me thinking about the mispagination of page: 273/265
http://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/facsimile/book/SLNSW_F1/283/?zoom=850
So I did an ELS search
There are 33 degrees in Scottish Rite Freemasonry
DWEB wrote:

<<The Scottish Rite did not even exist until 1801, Art; thus it is utterly irrelevant to discussions of Shakespeare. Indeed, the earlier system that eventually became the Scottish Rite had only 25 >

. . . That can't be Rite!!!
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
A normal human spine has 33 vertebrae when the bones
that form the coccyx are counted individually
DWEB wrote: <<Huh? So What?>>

Stratforians are truly spineless, Dave.
Post by Arthur Neuendorffer
33 is the number of years that it takes for the Lunar phase to
return to its original position in relation to the Solar calendar.
33 is the largest positive integer that cannot be
expressed as a sum of different triangular numbers.
33 is the sum of the first four positive factorials.
33 is the sum of the sum of the divisors of the first 6 positive integers.
33 is the first double digit centered dodecahedral number.
http://home.uchicago.edu/~jorgea/untitled%20folder/Riddle%20simplified.pdf
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*MA[LVOL]IO* : *MO[VOLL]AI* : *MO[FULL]AI*
DWEB wrote:

<<No, Art; "FULL" is not an anagram of "VOLL".>>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voll-Damm

<<[VOLL]-Damm Doble *MALTA* is a lager beer manufactured by S.A. Damm, a [S.A.D.]brewery in Barcelona, Spain. This robust, full-bodied beer emulates a German-style "[VOLL]bier". Its dark-GREEN colored labels display writing in the Gothic script. The name comes from the word [VOLL], which means [FULL] or complete in German.>>
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_THIS STAR OF ENGLAND_ Chap. 8 by Dorothy & Charlton Ogburn

http://www.sourcetext.com/sourcebook/Star/ch08.html

<<IN JANUARY 7, 1575, *LORD OXFORD* set forth with his retinue,
. consisting, as Burghley noted in his diary, of "two gentlemen,
. two grooms, one payend, a harbinger, a housekeeper & a trenchman."
. Before the end of May the traveller reached Venice, where he
. declined a generous offer on the part of [titular Grand Prior]
Sir *RICHARD SHELLEY* of a furnished house, to continue his journey.>>
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TABLE 1C. ENGLISH LANGUE. Priors and Grand Priors of England,
. Sovereign Order of St. John of Jerusalem and of *MALTA*.
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. *THOMAS TRESHAM* 1557-1559
. *RICHARD SHELLEY* 1557-1590
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Tresham_(died_1559)

<<Sir *THOMAS TRESHAM* (died 8 March 1559) was a leading Catholic politician. Tresham was knighted by 1524. In 1530 he served on a Royal Commission inquiring into Cardinal Wolsey's possessions. In 1539 he was one of those appointed to receive Henry VIII's future fourth wife, Anne of Cleves, at Calais. On 18 July 1553 he proclaimed Queen Mary at Northampton, and accompanied her on her entry into London. He was one of those appointed on 3 August 1553, "to staye the assemblies in Royston and other places of Cambridgeshire". He married firstly Mary Parr, youngest daughter and co-heir of William Parr, 1st Baron Parr of Horton, by whom he had two sons.

He was named Grand Prior of England in the Order of Knights Hospitallers of St John of Jerusalem by Royal Charter dated 2 April 1557, qualifying him for a seat in the House of Lords. It was not till 30 November that the order was re-established in England with four knights under him, and he was solemnly invested. In the meantime Sir *RICHARD SHELLEY* had been made turcopolier at *MALTA*.>>
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Art Neuendorffer

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