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ET IN ARCADIA EGO SUM-> And I (death?) too am in Arcadia
ARCAM DEI IESU TANGO-> I touch the tomb of GOD: Jesus
I TEGO ARCANA DEI -> I Conceal the Secrets of God.
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_Molière : A Theatrical Life_ by Virginia Scott
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"There are no letters or documents in Moliere's hand."
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CYRANO: Look you, it was my life
To be the prompter every one forgets!
. . .
There was the allegory of my whole life:
I, in the shadow, at the ladder's foot,
While others lightly mount to Love and Fame!
Just! very just! Here on the threshold drear
Of death, I pay my tribute with the rest,
To Moliere's genius,--Christian's fair face!
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Francis Beaumont dies March 6, 1616
Cyrano de Bergerac born March 6, 1619
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.....Les Bergers d'Arcadie

..........ET IN ARCADIA EGO
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(idea) by dreamword (8.3 mon) (print)

<<Latin phrase first used by Nicolas Poussin in his painting of the same
name.
Shepherds gather around a tomb on which the words are written.
The phrase can have two meanings:

And I (death) too am in Arcadia

I (the guy in the tomb) used to live in Arcadia

As you can tell, the phrase can have a bunch of meanings & evoke
some fairly deep questions about the nature of Arcadian peace.
The phrase has been used by many writers, and its complex message
evoked by its invocation. Notable among them are Evelyn Waugh,
whose book Brideshead Revisited takes the phrase as its epigram,
and Tom Stoppard, who explores the phrase in his play Arcadia.>>
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(idea) by dido (1.8 d) (print) ? Fri Dec 14 2001 at 4:54:32

<<Also is allegedly the motto of the mysterious secret society
called the Prieure de Sion, and of the Plantard family,
which is very important in it. Someone pointed out that
it's also an anagram for another Latin phrase whose meaning
is relevant to what the society seems to stand for:

"I Tego Arcana Dei." -> I Conceal the Secrets of God.>>
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(idea) by WolfDave (5.5 hr) (print) ? Tue Jan 01 2002 at 18:55:27


<<The most enigmatic thing concerning the phrase "et in Arcadia ego" is
that it contains no verb (literally it means "and in arcadia I...").
In order to translate it, therefore, a verb must be inserted.
The usual one used for this purpose, and the one which
Pierre Plantard implied should be there, is "sum" (I am).
This makes the phrase a double anagram, as with the sum in place
it can be re-arranged to Arcam Dei Iesu tango,
(I touch the tomb of Jesus the God).

Rennes-le-Chateau conspiracy theorists consider this very significant.>>
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(idea) by Clockmaker (8.7 mon) (print) ? Sun Sep 29 2002 at 19:46:42

<<Actually, this phrase was not coined by Nicolas Poussin.
It was used by the ancient romans to illustrate
the impossibility of Paradise
(sort of like we use Utopia, in modern times)
and the inevitability of death
(as the Reaper finds his way even into Paradise).
Poussin apparently thought it was fitting,
as the motif of Shepherds pondering death
while observing a grave was a common one.
I don't think Poussin came up with it.
Also, the implied verb is indeed "sum",
and as far as I've been taught,
this is an acceptable if not common way
to treat that verb in Latin;
if you omit a verb it is presumed to be "sum".>>
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Art Neuendorffer
Art Neuendorffer
2003-09-23 01:50:16 UTC
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Shugborough Hall

<<The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail mentions a monument at Shugborough Hall,
Staffordshire, England, which reproduces Nicolas Poussin's Les Bergers
d'Arcadie
(also known as Et in Arcadia Ego) in mirror image.

The building of this monument was commissioned by Admiral Lord Anson in the
18th century.

The following letters appear on an inscription below the picture :
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The meaning of these letters has never been satisfactorily explained>>

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<<Some details of the original painting have been altered. To the top of
Poussin's tomb has been added another ogee-sided sarcophagus surmounted by a
pyramid! Subtle alterations to the figures may also be noted. Particularly
revealing is the alteration to the hand of the kneeling shepherd. In
reversing the image one thing that could not be reversed was, of course, the
inscriiption, so the kneeling shepherd still poinst to the first line of the
inscriiption with his forefinger, but the angle of his thumb has been
changed slightly. Why should this be? So that he may still point to the same
part of the phrase - - as in the painting; namely, to the letters ARCA
(Latin for TOMB), but now with his thumb. >> -- _The Tomb of God_ by Richard
Andrews & Paul Schellenberger
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_ET IN ARCADIA EGO_ by Paul Smith.
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Virgil (70BC-19BC)
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The first appearance of the 'Tomb in Arcadia' appeared in Virgil's Eclogues
V, 42ff:
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"A lasting monument to Daphnis raise
With this inscription to record his praise;
'Daphnis, the fields' delight, the shepherds' love,
Renown'd on earth and deifi'd above;
Whose flocks excelled the fairest on the plains,
But less than he himself surpassed the swains."
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1431 Filelfo, Canzone Morale - during the Renaissance the traditional figure
of Justice
with sword and scales was identified with the goddess Astraea.
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c1470s Lorenzo the Magnificent and his circle (which included Pico della
Mirandola)
identified the Medici Villa at Fiesolo (built between 1458 and 1461 for
Cosimo the Elder by Michelozzo) with Arcady and the Arcadian shepherds
(being the inspiration to Signorelli's Realm of Pan [now lost]).
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1502 Jacopo Sannazaro, Arcadia (Virgil's Arcadia now representing a Utopian
world
of bliss and beauty - with Sannazaro concentrating upon funeral hymns,
yearning love songs and melancholy memories in his poem).
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1590s Sir Philip Sidney, The Countess of Pembroke's Arcadia.

Mary Sidney, Countess of Pembroke,
A Dialogue betweene two Shepheards, Thenot and Piers,
in praise of Astrea.
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c1621-1623 First version of Et In Arcadia Ego by "Guercino" (Galleria
Corsini).
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* The Family Palace of Giulio Rospigliosi (Pope Clement IX in 1667)
contained Aurora by "Guercino".
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c1630 Poussin's first version of Et In Arcadia Ego - containing the element
of drama
and surprise on the part of the shepherds that encounter the tomb
- being a counterpart to Poussin's other painting,
Midas Washing His Face In The River Pactolus.
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1632 Honoré d'Urfé, L'Astrée.
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c1640 Poussin's second version of Et In Arcadia Ego -
with the element of drama and surprise on the part of the shepherds
being eliminated - instead displaying pensive contemplation.
Quoting Erwin Panofsky: "Poussin's Louvre picture no longer shows
a dramatic encounter with Death but a contemplative absorption
in the idea of mortality". The tomb itself has been transformed
from being a decorative design into a rectangular block.
Poussin has used Sannazaro's poem as the basis for his 2nd version,
from Arcadia lines 257-267 (relating to the tomb of Phyllis):

"I will make thy tomb famous and renowned among these rustic folk.
Shepherds shall come from the hills of Tuscany and Liguria
to worship this corner of the world solely because
thou hast dwelt here once.
And they shall read on the beautiful square monument
the inscription that chills my heart at all hours,
that makes me strangle so much sorrow in my breast:
'She who always showed herself so haughty and rigid
to Meliseo now lies entombed, meek and humble,
in this cold stone'."
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1672 Poussin's first biographer, Giovanni Pietro Bellori,
interpreted Et In Arcadia Ego as:
"...the grave is to be found even in Arcady
and that death occurs in the very midst of delight".
Also stating that the theme of Poussin's Et In Arcadia Ego
had been "suggested by Pope Clement IX, when still a prelate".
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1677 Fabio Camillo Massimo inherited Poussin's first version
of Et In Arcadia Ego from his brother, Cardinal Camillo Massimi.
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1685 King Louis XIV bought Poussin's second version
of Et In Arcadia Ego from C.A. Hérault.
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1685 Poussin's second biographer, Andre Felibien,
interpreted Et In Arcadia Ego as:
"This inscription emphasizes the fact that the person
buried in this tomb has lived in Arcady".
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1690 Group of poets form The Arcadian Academy in Rome,
electing the late Queen Christina of Sweden (died in 1689)
as its symbolical head ("Basilissa"), lasting for two hundred years.
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1758 First known reference to the Shepherds' Monument
at Shugborough Hall, contained in a poorly composed poem,
partially written by Anna Seward.
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1761 First mention of Poussin's Et In Arcadia Ego at Chatsworth House.
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1773 George Keate's poem, The Monument In Arcadia.
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1817 Jean Pierre Jacques Auguste de Labouisse-Rochefort,
Les Amours, A Éléonore, recueil D'élégies divisé en Trois Livres.

- containing the phrase Et In Arcadia Ego on the frontispiece in both
editions
of the book (undoubtedly being a reference to the group of poets called
The Arcadian Academy that were formed in Italy in 1690).
- Jean Pierre Jacques Auguste de Labouisse-Rochefort married Eleonore Musard
de Saint-Michel in 1802 in Toulouse (a composer of sonnets). 1828-1829

Vicomte de François-Auguste-René Châteaubriand (1768-1848) Ambassador in
Rome
- raised a monument to Poussin above the artist's mausoleum in the church
of St Lorenzo, Lucino; with the dedication
"F-R de Châteaubriand to Nicolas Poussin,
for the glory of the Arts and the honour of France."

The bas-relief of Les Bergers d'Arcadie was executed
by Léon Vaudoyer (1803-1872), whilst the bust of Poussin,
above it, is signed "P. Lemoyne".
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1832 Jean Pierre Jacques Auguste de Labouisse-Rochefort,
Voyages à Rennes-les-Bains, containing the opening words
"From your happy Alphaeus, Oh darling Arethusa!"
(possibly written in 1803). Labouisse-Rochefort compared
the landscape of Rennes-les-Bains with Arcadia.
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1832 Jean Pierre Jacques Auguste de Labouisse-Rochefort
becomes accepted as a member of The Arcadian Academy
- in a "Letter of thanks to the Arcadian Academy of Rome"
published on 16 September at Castelnaudary, he wrote:
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"A Shepherd of Arcady by the gentle inclination of my heart,
I could not help but want to be a member of this illustrious
Arcadian Academy. I was therefore delighted to receive the happy news
that the Arcadians have deigned to admit me to membership..."
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1834 Jean Pierre Jacques Auguste de Labouisse-Rochefort,
Mélanges politiques et littéraires, faisant suite
au Voyage à Rennes-les-Bains (Labouisse-Rochefort was a Royalist).
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ARTISTS AND ET IN ARCADIA EGO

Giovanni Francesco Barbierini - "Guercino" (1591-1666)
Nicolas Poussin (1594-1665)
Laurent de la Hyre (1606-1656)
Peter Scheemakers (1691-1781)
Francesco Zuccarelli (1702-1788)
Richard Wilson (1714-1782)
Sir Joshua Reynolds (1723-1792)
Honoré Fragonard (1732-1806)
Léon Vaudoyer (1803-1872)
Aubrey Beardsley (1872-1898)
George Wilhelm Kolbe (1877-1947)
Augustus John (1878-1961)
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Art Neuendorffer
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Shugborough Hall
<<The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail mentions a monument at Shugborough Hall,
Staffordshire, England, which reproduces Nicolas Poussin's Les Bergers
d'Arcadie
(also known as Et in Arcadia Ego) in mirror image.
The building of this monument was commissioned by Admiral Lord Anson in the
18th century.
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O.U.O.S.V.A.V.V.
D M
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The meaning of these letters has never been satisfactorily explained>>
A quick visit to Shugborough Hall!...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/stoke/360/shugborough_1.shtml

A nice 360 degree vista.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/stoke/360/index.shtml

http://www.bbc.co.uk/stoke/going_out/venues/n_s/shugborough_hall.shtml
Art Neuendorffer
2003-09-27 23:07:38 UTC
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Shugborough Hall
<<The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail mentions a monument at Shugborough Hall,
Staffordshire, England, which reproduces Nicolas Poussin's Les Bergers
d'Arcadie (also known as Et in Arcadia Ego) in mirror image.
The building of this monument was commissioned by
Admiral Lord Anson in the18th century.
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O.U.O.S.V.A.V.V.
D M
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The meaning of these letters has never been satisfactorily explained>>
A quick visit to Shugborough Hall!...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/stoke/360/shugborough_1.shtml
A nice 360 degree vista.
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Is "Shug" the past tense of "to Shag"?

<<The broker-heartened shugon! Hole affair is rotten
muckswinish porcupig's draff. Enouch!>> - FW p. 535.
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Shug v. i. 1. To writhe the body so as to produce friction against one's
clothes, as do those who have the itch.

2. Hence, to crawl; to sneak. [Obs.]

"There I 'll shug in and get a noble countenance." - Ford.
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Shugborough Hall
http://www.bbc.co.uk/stoke/features/2003/01/tolkien.shtml

"A Shug is a little mischievous imp."

<<Tolkien enlisted in the army and in 1916, was stationed at Cannock Chase
in south Staffordshire. His wife, Edith, whom he married in March of that
year took a cottage at the village of Great Haywood, near Stafford, just to
be close to him. But, in June, he was sent to France, where he saw action on
the Western Front, just in time for the Somme offensive. Though he survived
that terrible battle, after four months in and out of the trenches, he
succumbed to "trench fever" - a form of typhus-like infection - and in early
November 1916, was sent back to England.

He spent that winter convalescing with Edith in the cottage at Great
Haywood. The Staffordshire surroundings can thus lay claim to inspiring
Tolkien's early fantasy writings. During his leave in Great Haywood, in
January and February 1917, Tolkien started to write the 'Book of Lost
Tales'. This book was the basis of a much more famous publication and indeed
the book which describes the early history of Tolkien's mythical
Middle-Earth - the Silmarillion.

Tavrobel

The Staffordshire connection can also be found in Tolkien's writings after a
careful reading of these Tales. In "The Tale of the Sun And The Moon", there
is reference to the village of Tavrobel. Christopher Tolkien, JRR's son and
literary executor, says this village is based on Great Haywood. In evidence,
Tavrobel has a bridge where two rivers (the Gruir and the Afros) meet. In
Great Haywood, the Trent and the Sow meet at its "Essex" bridge. In the same
tale, there is a gnome, Gilfanon, "whose ancient house - the House Of A
Hundred Chimneys - stands nigh the bridge of Tavrobel". Could this be
Shugborough Hall, the nearby ancestral home of the Earls of Lichfield? A
count of the chimneys in the Hall reveals that, in all, there are eighty
chimneys! Even if he never visited the Hall, it is likely he saw the
numerous blazing fires through the windows, as he walked along the adjacent
public footpath.

And in these months of romance, could there have been an even stranger
connection? Tolkien and Edith had married in early 1916, but had only had a
few months together, so to all intents, were still newlyweds in the winter
of 1916/17. Exactly nine months later, their first son John was born. And
Father John Tolkien - conceived in the hideaway cottage - went on to work
for over thirty years in the county as a parish priest in Stoke on Trent.>>
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