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STRADLING family, Glam.
The Stradlings first appear on the British scene at the end of the
13th cent.
They cannot be traced to Norman times.
Their original home may have been Strättligen, near Thun, in
Switzerland.
They appear in the retinue of Sir Otto of Granson (or de Grandison),
friend of Edward I, his captain in Anglesey during the wars against
Llywelyn, and justiciar of North Wales for some years after 1284.
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Sir JOHN DE STRATELINGES, STRADELINGES, or ESTRATELINGES, also called
Rousselet, was nephew to Sir Otto. He held lands in Berkshire and
Warwickshire, and had interests in Ireland. He d. in 1293.
MATILDA and MARGARET DE STRATELYNG accompanied the princess Margaret
to Brabant in 1297. Sir PETER DE STRATELINGES was a follower of Sir
Otto, and he was the first to settle in Glamorgan. He m. JOAN DE HAWEY
or HALWEIA, heiress of S. Donats, Combe Hawey in Somerset, and other
estates in southern England. They were both in Ireland in 1298. He may
have been the same person as the Sir Peter de Straddeley who was
commanded to deliver Neath castle to Walter Hakelute in 1297.
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The manor of S. Donats was held by JOHN DE STRATELYNGGE in 1314-5, but
by 1316 the head of the family in Glamorgan and Somerset was EDWARD
STRADLYNG, who was knighted in 1327. He had m. Ellen, daughter and
heiress of Sir Gilbert Strongbow (brother to the earl of Pembroke),
before 1317.
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He was ordered to seize the goods late of Hugh le Despenser in
Glamorgan, 1330. In 1337 he witnessed a grant of lands in Glamorgan to
the church of S. Mary, Tewkesbury. He held offices in Somerset and
Dorset and was Member of Parliament for Somerset in 1343. He was one
of the chief patrons of Neath abbey in the 14th cent., and the abbot
and convent in 1341 undertook to keep his anniversary after his death.
He held the manor of S. Donats in 1349, but it is difficult to
distinguish between him and his son, EDWARD STRADLING, in the records
of the middle of the 14th cent. He was alive in 1352 at least. The son
m. Gwenllian, daughter of Sir Roger Berkerolles and heiress of her
brother Sir Lawrence.
Their son, Sir WILLIAM STRADLING, was mainpernor for the prior of
Ewenny in 1400, and was placed on a commission to inquire about the
goods of Welsh rebels carried into Somerset and Dorset, 1403-5.
He went on pilgrimage to Jerusalem in 1408, and d. before 1412, for
Combe Hawey was held by his widow, Elizabeth, in that year. According
to G. T. Clark his wife was Isabel S. Barbe. His second son, Sir John
Stradling, m. Joan, heiress of her brother Walter Dauntesey, without
licence about 1417, and became head of the Wiltshire branch of the
family, though he seems to have maintained associations with the
diocese of Llandaff, where he was allowed to have a portable altar in
1428.
The heir was SIR EDWARD SRRADLING, who became prominent in South Wales
and the west of England in the first half of the 15th cent. He held a
variety of offices, being, for example, chamberlain and receiver of
South Wales, 1423, sheriff of Somerset and Dorset, 1424, on a
commission of oyer and terminer in Wales, 1424, on a commission to
inquire into treasons done by Matthew ap Llewelyn Dduy, canon of
Talley, 1427, on a commission of oyer and terminer for treasons in
Cardiganshire, 1431, acting in the absence of the chief justice of
South Wales, 1431, on a commission to take custody of the priory of S.
John the Evangelist at Carmarthen, 1431, sheriff of Carmarthenshire,
1438, and J.P. in Somerset, 1423-51. He appears to have been a friend
of Humphrey, duke of Gloucester.
Like his father and grandfather, he was styled Knight of the
Sepulchre, and he d. in Jerusalem. His wife was Jane, daughter of
cardinal Beaufort.
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JOHN STRADLYNGE, receiver of Ogmore, 1462, may have been their son.
The eldest son and heir was Sir HARRY STRADLING, who was captured by
Colyn Dolphyn and forced to sell portions of his estate in Glamorgan,
Mon., and Oxon, to buy his freedom.
He also went to Jerusalem, 1476-7, and d. on the island of Cyprus on
his way home. He had m. Elizabeth, daughter of Sir William ap Thomas
of Raglan.
Jane, one of their daughters, m. Miles ap Harry,
and had
Blanche Parry (q.v.) as grand-daughter.
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The heir, THOMAS STRADLINGE, d. 1480, under 26 years of age. His wife
was Jenet, daughter of Thomas Mathew of Radyr, and afterwards wife of
Sir Rhys ap Thomas (q.v.). During this period the family became more
prominent in Welsh life, and secured a place among the patrons of
Glamorgan bards. By the marriage of one of the daughters of this
Thomas Stradling to Sir William Griffith of Penrhyn (see Griffith of
Penrhyn, in Appendix) the family took another step towards the centre
of Welsh life. The heir was a minor. He was knighted at Tournai in
1513 as Sir EDWARD STRADLING. In 1488, it is reported that Sir Rhys ap
Thomas had taken the profits of his lands for three years.
Lewys Morgannwg (q.v.) regarded himself as a household bard to this
Sir Edward. He d. in 1535, leaving issue by his wife and by a
concubine. His second son, John, was rector of Neath, 1551-1569. The
heir was Sir THOMAS STRADLING. He was sheriff of Glamorgan, 1547-8,
Member of Parliament for East Grinstead, 1553, Arundel, 1554, on the
commission of peace for the march shires, 1554, on a commission to
inquire into heresies and seditious books, 1557, and muster-master of
the queen's army, 1557.
He was knighted in 1549. A staunch Romanist, he did not change his
religion on the accession of Elizabeth. In 1560 he was imprisoned in
the Tower for causing pictures to be made of a likeness of the cross
which appeared in the grain of a tree blown down at S. Donats. He is
named by Nicholas Sanders as one imprisoned for hearing mass, 1558-61.
He was granted his liberty but was bound to appear in person if called
upon. He d. 1573. His wife was the eldest daughter of Sir Thomas
Gamage of Coity.
He was succeeded by his eldest son Sir EDWARD STRADLING (1529-1609),
the scholar and owner of the celebrated library at S. Donats. He was
Member of Parliament for Steyning, 1554, and Arundel, 1557-8, and his
name appears on the pardon roll of queen Elizabeth, 1559. He was
knighted, 1573, and was sheriff of Glamorgan in 1573-4, 1582-3, and
1595-6. He was responsible for great improvements in the buildings and
gardens of S. Donats and on his estate, including sea-walls and a
harbour at Aberthaw. He was the patron of Dr. John David Rhys (q.v.),
and bore the expense of printing 1;250 copies of his Grammar in 1592.
A selection of his correspondence was published from a transcript in
the Stradling Correspondence 1840. Between 1561 and 1571 he wrote a
treatise on the Norman conquest of Glamorgan which was included by Dr.
David Powel (q.v.) in the Historie of Cambria, 1584. Lewys Dwnn (q.v.)
also acknowledges indebtedness to him. His wife was Agnes (1547-1624),
daughter of Sir Edward Gage, but they had no children.
They adopted a kinsman who inherited the estate on Sir Edward's death
in 1609 — Sir JOHN STRADLING, son of Francis Stradling of S. George,
Bristol, son of Henry Stradling, second son of Thomas Stradling (d.
1480) and Jenet Mathew. This JOHN STRADLING received his education at
Oxford (B.A. 1584), and travelled on the Continent. He was sheriff of
Glamorgan 1607, 1609, 1620, and was knighted 1608, and created
baronet, 1611. He was Member of Parliament for S. Germans, Cornwall,
1623-4, Old Sarum 1625, and Glamorgan 1625-6, and commissioner to
collect loans to the Crown in Glamorgan. It was he who founded the
grammar school at Cowbridge which had been planned by his
predecessor.
He was author or translator of A Direction for travailers taken out of
Epistola de Peregrinatione Italica … for the behoofe of the … Earl of
Bedford, 1592; Two bookes of constancie … Englished by J.S., … 1595;
De vita et morte contemnenda libri duo, 1597; J. Stradlingi
epigrammatum libri quatuor … 1607; Beati Pacifici; a divine poem …
1623; and Divine Poems, 1625 (containing commendatory verses by
Theophilus Field (q.v.), bishop of Llandaff). He left in manuscript an
account of litigation over lands in Glamorgan, written between 1598
and 1601, and dedicated to Sir Edward Stradling, which was published
as The Storie of the Lower Borowes of Merthyrmawr in 1932.
Another of his works remains in manuscript: ‘A Politike Discourse
between a Knight of the Commons-howse of Parliament, and a gent: his
friend beinge a moderate Roman Catholique, diuided into two parts,
afore-noones and after-noones Discourse, 1625’ (N.L.W. MS. 5666). He
d. 9 Sept. 1637 and was buried at S. Donats. His wife was Elizabeth,
daughter of Edward Gage, and niece to his predecessor's wife.
The heir was Sir EDWARD STRADLING, knight and bart. (2), b. 1601, and
educated at Oxford. He took an active interest in business
enterprises, such as the soap monopoly and London water undertakings
(1631). He was Member of Parliament for Glamorgan, 1640, a colonel of
a regiment of foot at Edgehill, 1642, where his brother Thomas served
as an officer under him. He was taken prisoner and d. at Oxford, being
buried in Jesus College chapel, 21 June 1644. He had m. Mary, daughter
of Sir Thomas Mansel of Margam, and she gave refuge to archbishop
Ussher at St. Donats in 1645.
He had three other brothers — captain JOHN STRADLING, who fell at the
siege of Rhé, Sir HARRY STRADLING, one of the two naval officers who
refused to join Parliament, and GEORGE STRADLING (1621-1688), M.A.,
D.D., chaplain to bishop Sheldon, canon of S. Paul's and of
Westminster, dean of Chichester, 1672-88, a skilled lutenist, author
of A Sermon preached before the King …, 1675, and Sermons and
Discourses … with an account of the author (ed. J. Harrington), 1692,
and a man who declined election as principal of Jesus College, 1661.
The 3rd baronet, Sir EDWARD STRADLING, who was knighted at Oxford in
1643, was a son of the 2nd bart. Like other members of his family he
served king Charles in the Civil War. He was only 20 years old at the
battle of Newbury, 1644. (His brothers John and Thomas took a leading
part in the Glamorgan risings of 1647-8. John was taken prisoner at
the battle of S. Fagans, and d. in Windsor Castle. Thomas confessed in
1650 that he had borne arms against Parliament in Pembrokeshire. He
was knighted by James II, and d. at Merthyr-mawr.) About 1642 Sir
EDWARD STRADLING (III) m. Catherine, daughter of Sir Hugh Perry,
sheriff of London (1632-3); he d. before 1661. His widow m. Bussy
Mansel (q.v.) of Briton Ferry.
When Sir EDWARD STRADLING (IV) took his degree of M.A., at Oxford, 12
Sept. 1661, he had already succeeded to the title. He m. Elizabeth,
daughter of Anthony Hungerford, and d. 5 Sept. 1685. Their heir, Sir
EDWARD STRADLING (V), was b. about 1672. He was Member of Parliament
for Cardiff, 1698, 1700-1, 1710-22, and sheriff of Glamorgan, 1709-10.
He m. Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Edward Mansell, and d. 1735. Their
eldest son, also named EDWARD STRADLING, was b. in 1699, when Hopkin
the Weaver composed englynion to mark the occasion.
He was elected Member of Parliament for Cardiff, 1722, but d. in 1726
in his father's lifetime. His elegy was composed by Llywelyn ab Ifan.
The heir was his brother Sir THOMAS STRADLING (b. 1710), who was
killed in a duel at Montpellier, 27 Sept. 1738. The title became
extinct and the estates after prolonged litigation were divided into
three parts. Towards the end of the 18th cent. the fine library at S.
Donats was sold, and many of its treasures have disappeared.
G. T. Clark in Limbus Patrum gives particulars of several branches of
the family which were established at Roath, Llantwit Major, Gelligaer,
Broviscin, Wiltshire, Merthyr-mawr, and Kenffig.
The WILLIAM STRADLING (son of William son of Sir William Stradling and
Isabel S. Barbe) who held a canonry in Abergwili, 1486, and was
chancellor of S. Davids from 1509 to 1539, was of the Merthyr-mawr
branch. He built the chancellor's house at S. Davids.
Bibliography:
* D.N.B.;
* G. E. Cokayne, Baronetage;
* G. T. Clark, Limbus Patrum and Cartae;
* Cal. S.P. Dom., Cal. Inquisitions, Cal. Close Rolls, Cal. Pat.
Rolls, etc.;;
* G. J. Williams, Tradd. Llen. Morgannwg;
* L. D. Nicholl, The Normans in Glamorgan;
* Cardiff Records, 1898-1911;
* J. S. Corbett, Glamorgan, 1925.
Author:
Evan David Jones, F.S.A., (1903-87), Aberystwyth
Corrections and additions:
STRADLING FAMILY (DWB, 925-7). In the second column on p. 925 add 1389
as the year of Sir Edward Stradling's birth, and 3 May 1453 as the
date of his death. His son, Sir Harri Stradling, d. 31 Aug. 1476. Sir
Thomas Stradling d. 27 Jan. 1571, (not ‘1573’). Add to the
bibliography the detailed article by Ralph Griffiths, ‘The rise of the
Stradling of St. Donats’, Morgannwg, VII, 15-47, and Ceri W. Lewis,
‘Syr Edward Stradling, (1529-1609)’, Ysgrifau Beirniadol, 19 (1993),
139-207.
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Research into the early history of the Stradlings disclose how widely
spread were their manors and estates throughout England, Wales and
Ireland. Ancient records give various spellings of the name but all
can be traced down to the first Stradling in 1258. Earlier ones were
Estratelinge, Esterling and Straddeley.
The earliest trace of them is in Switzerland at a place named
"Strattligen"", near Thun (Canton Berne) or the adjacent department of
France, Haute Savoy, from where Edward I obtained some of his ablest
supporters.
They were kinsmen of that distinguished Savoyard Soldier, Sir Otto de
Grandison
and Sir John Stradling accompanied him to the court of Edward I.
This first representative of the family in England lived in the
village of Wellesbourn Hastings (Nat Grid Ref S.P.2755) close to
Warwick.
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ANCIENT STRADLINGS
by Group Captain Stradling between 1963-1969
The Stradlings of St. Donat's 1292 - 1738.
The history of every castle is built around that of those who occupied
it. The Stradling family were at St Donat's for more than four
centuries and the story of their lives gives a living tradition to
this ancient castle. What kind of men were they?
The earliest existing record of this family concerns Sir John
Stradling who died in 1292. In recognition of his valuable services,
Edward I paid considerable debts which Sir John owed to the Italian
bankers, the Riccardi of Lycca. Other records of that time show that
the family fortunes were restored by the marriage of Sir Peter to a
rich heiress (Joan, daughter of Thomas Hawey) through whom he
inherited the castle of St Donats.
It would seem that from then onwards they were a family of great
influence in Britain, adding many other manors to their estates by
marrying into other equally rich and influential families. Like all
great families of those times they served with distinction in the army
and navy, were scholarly and encouraged the pursuit of learning. ( In
the early 17th century, Sir John - third of that name - founded the
Grammar School at Cowbridge).
They were devout and loyal both in their religion and sovereign,
although this often brought hardships, but they accepted any adversity
on such occasions with fortitude.
They travelled extensively and four in successive generations made the
pilgrimage to Jerusalem and became Knights of the Holy Sepulchre. In
1476, Sir Harry, aged 24, died on his return journey and was buried at
Famagusta in Cyprus.
They probably reached the peak of their influence in the reign of
Elizabeth I, and indication of which is to be seen in the printed
volume of the "Stradling Correspondence", which includes personal
letters to the fifth Sir Edward from such notable men as Sir Walter
Raleigh, Sir Philip Sydney, Sir Francis Walsingham, Robert Dudley, Sir
Richard Grenville, William Cecil, and Sir Francis Drake.
Existing records concerning their activities in public life are very
incomplete, particularly during the earlier period, but from those
still available, it is clear that this family took a prominent part.
In the religious sphere, one was the Archdeacon of Llandaff, another
suffered imprisonment in the Tower of London from 1561 to 1563, for
refusing to change his religious beliefs, Georgius Stradling was Dean
of Chichester and Gloucester and Prebendary of Westminster Abbey,
where he was buried on 9/4/1688.
Among the scholars were the 5th Sir Edward, educated at Jesus College
Oxford, who became an Historian and wrote many books and poems. And
Sir John who became a commoner of Brasenose College in 1579, aged 16,
graduated in the arts in 1583 from Magdalen College.
Most of the Stradlings served as members of parliament and Sherriffs
of Glamorgan in the 16th and 17th centuries, much as they had done in
the 14th and 15th centuries in Somerset and Dorset where their chief
estates were then.
Many distinguished themselves in military services. It is probable
that Sir Peter was at the siege of Acre in 1292, serving under Sir
Otto de Grandison
who commanded the British contingent of the international force.
Sir Thomas was a Muster-master to Queen Elizabeths army.
The 6th Sir Edward a Colonel of the foot at the battle of Edgehill;
one of his brothers, Thomas, was a Lieutenant Colonel in the Royalist
army, John a Captain under the Duke of Buckingham at the battle of the
Rhee and Sir Harry was Captain of the Royal Ship "Bonaventure".
Personal letters to this Sir Harry signed by Charles the first and
Prince Rupert are still in existence (Shardloes Papers), and of him
Lord Clarence wrote " He and Kitley were the only Captains Parliament
could not corrupt". Francis was a Captain of the foot in Ireland: the
7th Sir Edward brought a troop of horse to the King's aid at the
battle of Newbury, his brother John, a Major-General, led the Royalist
forces at St. Fagans, 1684, and his other brother was a Colonel of the
foot under Charles II.
The family roll of honour after the Civil War included both the 6th
and 7th Edward (buried at Jesus College, Oxford), one John buried on
the Island of Rhee, and another buried at Windsor Castle, and Sir
Harry buried in Ireland.
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Those who occupied the Castle after the Stradlings.
On the death in 1738 of the last direct descendant of the Stradlings,
under his will dated 4.3.1735, the estate passed to a cousin by
marriage, Bussey Mansell, who was later dispossessed of it in a law
suit. (see appendix 1) So it passed to the Tyrwhitt family from 1755
to the end of that century. In 1862 it was purchased by Dr J.D.
Nicholl Carne, a relative of the Stradlings by marriage and a
disputant of the earlier lawsuit. All the Stradling family connection
with St Donats ceased in 1901 when it was sold to the late Morgan
Stuart Williams whose family lived there until 1922 and during which
period commendable restoration work was carried out. It was then
purchased by an American citizen William Pennoyer, who had married the
Dowager Countess of Shrewsbury. He sold the castle to another American
in 1925 to William Randolf Hearst. During this world famous
connoisseur's ownership, vast sums of money were spent upon careful
restoration, several major constructional alterations in keeping with
the rest of the castle were undertaken and such 20th century amenities
essential to modern occupation were installed as well as laying out of
the beautiful gardens and the addition of a swimming pool.
In November 1960, generous gifts of £65,000 by M. Antonin Besse and
later a gift of £30,000 by two British supporters and one American,
made the purchase of St Donats castle possible by Atlantic College. To
what more fitting use could so great family heritage be devoted than
this far-sighted international project.
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Conclusion
So concludes this brief outline of the historical background of St
Donats Castle and those who occupied it for nearly 500 years. Some lie
buried in foreign lands, and others rest in the family chapel where
their epitaphs are there for all to read. That their ancient castle
has now become so eminent a seat of learning will not disturb their
rest and Sir John, who took his degree in arts at the age of 20 and
founded the Cowbridge Grammar School, would undoubtedly commend it.
Should the foregoing help to bring to life the great traditions of St
Donats Castle in the minds of students and so stimulate them to
greater efforts, both in their studies and outdoor adventures, it will
have been worth the effort of research and writing.
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Further notes on the Stradling Family
Research into the early history of the Stradlings disclose how widely
spread were their manors and estates throughout England, Wales and
Ireland. Ancient records give various spellings of the name but all
can be traced down to the first Stradling in 1258. Earlier ones were
Estratelinge, Esterling and Straddeley.
The earliest trace of them is in Switzerland at a place named
"Strattligen"", near Thun (Canton Berne) or the adjacent department of
France, Haute Savoy, from where Edward I obtained some of his ablest
supporters. They were kinsmen of that distinguished Savoyard Soldier,
Sir Otto de Grandison and Sir John Stradling accompanied him to the
court of Edward I. This first representative of the family in England
lived in the village of Wellesbourn Hastings (Nat Grid Ref S.P.2755)
close to Warwick.
There is a charter in which estates are granted to him in Tipperare,
Ireland by Sir Otto. Also records show the confiscation of his estates
by Riccardi of Lucca, Italy, for a debt of £200, but after Sir John's
death in 1292, Edward I restored these estates to the family for Sir
John's valuable services to him during his lifetime in England. There
is a further charter granting the estates in Tipperare to Sir Peter in
1299 when he was residing at Waterford.
He had earlier married Joan de Hawey and was the first known Stradling
to possess St Donat's castle (this by his marriage). From then on all
his direct descendants resided at the castle until 1738. They also had
other manors and estates mainly in Somerset and Dorset. Before Sir
Peter arrived at St Donat's he was commanding Neath Castle, Glamorgan.
A Sir John Stradling lived at Minehead in 1540. A Richard Stradling
was at Wellington, Somerset in 1600. An Edward Stradling lived Combe
Hawe, Somerset. William Stradling, son of John Stradling lived at Over
Compton, near Sherborne, Dorset: also at Halsway near Crowcombe,
Somerset. There are records of a Stradling at Combe Hay, near Bath and
another at Chilton Polden, Somerset. 5th Sir Edward Stradling's wife
Anne (or Agnes?) was the daughter of Sir Edward Gage of Firle, Sussex
- her Grandfather John Parker lived at Wratton Manor, Willingdon ( on
the ruins of which our own house is built). Sir Edwards Gage's widow
(nee Elizabeth Parker) married Sir John Stradling who died in 1644
(ed. ?1637) [T Nicoles says Sir John's wife was Sir Edward's wife's
niece, not her mother/stepmother as here]
The first Stradling occupant of St Donats, Sir Peter, married Joan de
Hawey who was then living at Compton Hawey, Dorset (now Compton,
Nether and Over, near Sherborne) also at Ash Herbert, Somerset.
Occupants of St Donats before the Stradlings.
John Penbridge, born 1265, died 1331, knighted 1306 was living at St
Donats in 1307. He also held former fiefs of de Hawey in the Quantocks
through the minority of Johanna de Hawey. Her husband , Sir Peter
Stradling did very little of the early construction of the castle.
Most of it was built by his son the first Sir Edward ( i.e. the outer
walls and gate house).
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Sir Knight Thomas 2nd Lord BARDOLF
Birth: 4 Oct 1282
Watton At Stone, Hertfordshire, England
Wormegay, Norfolk, England
Death: 15 Dec 1328
Watton On Stone, Hertfordshire, England
Shelford Priory, Nottinghamshire, England
Father: SIr Hugh BARDOLF
Mother: Isabel AGUILLON
married Agnes GRANDISON
On the Lake Of Neuchatel, Switzerland
married Agnes De GRANDSON
On The Lake Of Neuchatel, Switzerland
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John Kemp
Cardinal, Archbishop of Canterbury, and Chancellor of England;
b. at Wye, Kent, about 1380;
d. at Lambeth, 22 March, 1454.
He was the son of Thomas Kemp of Ollantigh, near Ashford, and Beatrice
Lewknor,
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